Comments on: In defense of Roy http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Tue, 22 May 2012 17:56:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Dean Conklin http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4132 Dean Conklin Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:37:18 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4132 Two comments about Pentecostals trigger some thoughts/comments. First was from the quartet owner: "A good example of where the music was allowed to stray with consequences is: in 1964 the Goodman’s (sic) came on the scene with a new brand of Gospel Music, straight out of the Pentecostal Church." and Avery's observation future thoughts about the interesting insight in "the effect of Pentecostalism on southern gospel music and culture." For a starter, James Blackwood (and Cecil) were members of Memphis First Assembly of God, a pentecostal church pastored by the Rev James Hamill, father of Jim Hamill. Apparently "pentecostalism" had no negative effect on any of the three. And for a time, Hilton Griswold, who would serve as the group's pianist and a vocalist, would finish his years as an AG minister. The old Couriers got started during their years at a pentecostal college, and at times the Crabbs have been cited as too pentecostal. I am unaware of any touring group that refuses to sing in AG churches (the challenge is to get invited). So why is there such antipathy to the pentecostal streak in SG? I think Avery has expressed some of this. Is SG just supposed to be Baptist, or some other denomination? What gives? Two comments about Pentecostals trigger some thoughts/comments. First was from the quartet owner: “A good example of where the music was allowed to stray with consequences is: in 1964 the Goodman’s (sic) came on the scene with a new brand of Gospel Music, straight out of the Pentecostal Church.” and Avery’s observation future thoughts about the interesting insight in “the effect of Pentecostalism on southern gospel music and culture.” For a starter, James Blackwood (and Cecil) were members of Memphis First Assembly of God, a pentecostal church pastored by the Rev James Hamill, father of Jim Hamill. Apparently “pentecostalism” had no negative effect on any of the three. And for a time, Hilton Griswold, who would serve as the group’s pianist and a vocalist, would finish his years as an AG minister. The old Couriers got started during their years at a pentecostal college, and at times the Crabbs have been cited as too pentecostal. I am unaware of any touring group that refuses to sing in AG churches (the challenge is to get invited). So why is there such antipathy to the pentecostal streak in SG? I think Avery has expressed some of this. Is SG just supposed to be Baptist, or some other denomination? What gives?

]]> By: Jim E. Davis http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4100 Jim E. Davis Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:38:40 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4100 I always turned to Jd sumners page (before it was nixed) long before I got around to Pauley's moaning about the good ole days. Personally, I love it when somebody rattles the cage and steps on a few tulips. One of the reasons I frequent this blog. Although I agree with Pauley's assertion that overall quality has been lowered, we have to remember that 40-50 years ago there were fewer groups confined into the narrow slot of what was considered southern gospel. The style spectrum is much wider today with ten times as many groups but you can still find plenty of extremely talented artists who deserve to be applauded and appreciated. Perhaps Mr. Pauley finds their various styles too repugnant to earn his critique. His opinion on today's cream of the crop would only create a greater respect for his opinion of yesterday. Now that would get me to his page in a flash and I would not be alone. In my opinion, of course. I always turned to Jd sumners page (before it was nixed) long before I got around to Pauley’s moaning about the good ole days. Personally, I love it when somebody rattles the cage and steps on a few tulips. One of the reasons I frequent this blog.

Although I agree with Pauley’s assertion that overall quality has been lowered, we have to remember that 40-50 years ago there were fewer groups confined into the narrow slot of what was considered southern gospel. The style spectrum is much wider today with ten times as many groups but you can still find plenty of extremely talented artists who deserve to be applauded and appreciated.

Perhaps Mr. Pauley finds their various styles too repugnant to earn his critique. His opinion on today’s cream of the crop would only create a greater respect for his opinion of yesterday. Now that would get me to his page in a flash and I would not be alone. In my opinion, of course.

]]> By: RF http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4099 RF Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:06:05 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4099 Here's the funny part. I've met Roy Pauley. He's from just down the road from me and is a super guy. His attitudes are of the past, but like you say, that's his business. I think if we were all to sit down with Roy Pauley, he'd confide he likes some of the stuff going on today, but his preference would be the Blackwoods and Statesmen. Funny how that doesn't come out in his columns. I hate to read his stuff, and that bothers me. It's kind of like how I really like Adam Dunn and Albert Puljos in today's baseball, but I can't forget Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays. Since I'm not a sports reporter, that doesn't mean much, but if I were...I'd be Roy Pauley. Here’s the funny part. I’ve met Roy Pauley. He’s from just down the road from me and is a super guy. His attitudes are of the past, but like you say, that’s his business. I think if we were all to sit down with Roy Pauley, he’d confide he likes some of the stuff going on today, but his preference would be the Blackwoods and Statesmen. Funny how that doesn’t come out in his columns.

I hate to read his stuff, and that bothers me. It’s kind of like how I really like Adam Dunn and Albert Puljos in today’s baseball, but I can’t forget Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays. Since I’m not a sports reporter, that doesn’t mean much, but if I were…I’d be Roy Pauley.

]]> By: Trent http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4098 Trent Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:26:26 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4098 "...I’m for quality and appropriateness and class. And apple pie and old glory and I believe in love. I believe in babies. I believe in Mom and Dad. And I believe in you. Oh wait. That’s Don Williams." You are killing me. “…I’m for quality and appropriateness and class. And apple pie and old glory and I believe in love. I believe in babies. I believe in Mom and Dad. And I believe in you. Oh wait. That’s Don Williams.”

You are killing me.

]]> By: Dean Adkins http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4097 Dean Adkins Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:44:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/01/08/in-defense-of-roy/#comment-4097 [edit] great job of presenting your thoughts in logical fashion. WhenI grow up I want to write like you! [edit] great job of presenting your thoughts in logical fashion.
WhenI grow up I want to write like you!

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