Comments on: The upperhand in PR http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Tue, 22 May 2012 18:42:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: justafan http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-6429 justafan Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:51:35 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-6429 Maybe the outgoing member's reason for leaving is nobody's business. Maybe the outgoing member’s reason for leaving is nobody’s business.

]]> By: William http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-6187 William Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:09:01 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-6187 Crossway Qt. uses video to let the fans know why Chris is leaving. http://www.crosswayqt.com/cw2/page/videoblog.html Maybe this is a preview of the future in providng info on a member's leaving. At least it helps eliminate/cut down on rumors. Crossway Qt. uses video to let the fans know why Chris is leaving. http://www.crosswayqt.com/cw2/page/videoblog.html

Maybe this is a preview of the future in providng info on a member’s leaving. At least it helps eliminate/cut down on rumors.

]]> By: Susan E. Weatherford http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5984 Susan E. Weatherford Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:10:29 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5984 As one who has seen many, many people come and go from a prominent gospel quartet in past years, these are some of the reasons that come to mind why they left: 1. Not everybody is cut out for the road. 2. Not everybody has a heart for ministry. 3 Someone stepped on their ego. 4. They refuse to jump through hoops for an unreasonable manager anymore. (Boy, could I elaborate on this one) 5. Not enough money to make it worth being away from their family, no matter how they feel about ministry. 6. Stealing. 7. They get a better offer. 8. Their wife is a trouble maker. 9. THEY are a trouble maker 10. They were accused of raping a preacher's daughter. 11. The gay thing. 12. They can't hear a part to save their life. 13. Rudeness. 14. Stupidity. 15. Flatulence. (No, I am not making this up.) 16. They pick their nose. As one who has seen many, many people come and go from a prominent gospel quartet in past years, these are some of the reasons that come to mind why they left:

1. Not everybody is cut out for the road.

2. Not everybody has a heart for ministry.

3 Someone stepped on their ego.

4. They refuse to jump through hoops for an unreasonable manager anymore. (Boy, could I elaborate on this one)

5. Not enough money to make it worth being away from their family, no matter how they feel about ministry.

6. Stealing.

7. They get a better offer.

8. Their wife is a trouble maker.

9. THEY are a trouble maker

10. They were accused of raping a preacher’s daughter.

11. The gay thing.

12. They can’t hear a part to save their life.

13. Rudeness.

14. Stupidity.

15. Flatulence. (No, I am not making this up.)

16. They pick their nose.

]]> By: Big Ken 54 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5980 Big Ken 54 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:34:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5980 Gene McDonald has landed in Tennessee, and he apparently can't get away from those big buses: http://www.musiccitycoach.com/main.php?body=contact Gene McDonald has landed in Tennessee, and he apparently can’t get away from those big buses:

http://www.musiccitycoach.com/main.php?body=contact

]]> By: GC http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5907 GC Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:51:58 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5907 I think they should be together a full year before being considered for much of anything in the industry. It would not be fair to the industry if they could not get all the money from these temporary groups before they fold. I think they should be together a full year before being considered for much of anything in the industry. It would not be fair to the industry if they could not get all the money from these temporary groups before they fold.

]]> By: dkd http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5901 dkd Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:35:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5901 Many times a replacement is already lined up before the current member even knows he will be leaving! Many times a replacement is already lined up before the current member even knows he will be leaving!

]]> By: David Bruce Murray http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5829 David Bruce Murray Sat, 24 Feb 2007 04:27:08 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5829 Charles Brady wrote: "With the extreme number of turnovers and now mergers in southern gospel (especially in some of the new big entertainment companies) it make me wonder if we should make a group stay together for at least 90 days before we give them any free press……." I'll try to remember to report on the formation of Spoken4 in 90 days if they're still together. That's not a bad idea, actually. LE wrote: "Just for the record, any departing group member whether fired or quitting that puts a release out before the owner of the group does or without consent from the owner is INCREDIBLY disrespectful." That works both ways. It's incredibly disrespectful for a press release to state a new member has been hired without acknowledging the service of the person who left. I'd much prefer to see a joint announcement issued first from the group and departing member with a promise that the replacement would be announced soon. If there's going to be a period of auditions, this could be announced in the same press release. If the replacement is already lined up, the second press release announcing their arrival could be released a couple of days later. This way, there should be little or no speculation about possible hard feelings between the group and the departing member, while the new member would get the attention they deserve. Charles Brady wrote: “With the extreme number of turnovers and now mergers in southern gospel (especially in some of the new big entertainment companies) it make me wonder if we should make a group stay together for at least 90 days before we give them any free press…….”

I’ll try to remember to report on the formation of Spoken4 in 90 days if they’re still together. That’s not a bad idea, actually.

LE wrote: “Just for the record, any departing group member whether fired or quitting that puts a release out before the owner of the group does or without consent from the owner is INCREDIBLY disrespectful.”

That works both ways. It’s incredibly disrespectful for a press release to state a new member has been hired without acknowledging the service of the person who left.

I’d much prefer to see a joint announcement issued first from the group and departing member with a promise that the replacement would be announced soon. If there’s going to be a period of auditions, this could be announced in the same press release.

If the replacement is already lined up, the second press release announcing their arrival could be released a couple of days later. This way, there should be little or no speculation about possible hard feelings between the group and the departing member, while the new member would get the attention they deserve.

]]> By: KD http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5819 KD Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:30:53 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5819 Doug, funny you should post about this. Just found out that apparently a member of the trio First Love and a member of the McRaes trio no longer exist. Both groups have joined together minus a member each, and no mention anywhere as to what happened to them. There's another one for the X-Files. Doug, funny you should post about this. Just found out that apparently a member of the trio First Love and a member of the McRaes trio no longer exist.

Both groups have joined together minus a member each, and no mention anywhere as to what happened to them.

There’s another one for the X-Files.

]]> By: LE http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5815 LE Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:58:23 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5815 Just for the record, any departing group member whether fired or quitting that puts a release out before the owner of the group does or without consent from the owner is INCREDIBLY disrespectful. If you are the one being fired, who is going to announce that???? That's just foolish. And if you are leaving and on good terms as several are, why do something to jeopardize the relationship you have with the people in the group. Keith did it the right way....no matter what the circumstances were behind him leaving, he let Brian do what he needed to do and then posted his own announcement. It is just incredibly self-centered to handle it any other way. Just for the record, any departing group member whether fired or quitting that puts a release out before the owner of the group does or without consent from the owner is INCREDIBLY disrespectful. If you are the one being fired, who is going to announce that???? That’s just foolish. And if you are leaving and on good terms as several are, why do something to jeopardize the relationship you have with the people in the group. Keith did it the right way….no matter what the circumstances were behind him leaving, he let Brian do what he needed to do and then posted his own announcement. It is just incredibly self-centered to handle it any other way.

]]> By: FG http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5811 FG Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:20:11 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5811 I just wanted to say that Kieth Plott has antoher press release on So Gospel News. It gives out his e-mail address so you can contact him and his wife. Please, keep in mind that the singers in gospel music have a calling on thier lives, to witness for our Lord Jesus Christ through song. We need to keep them in our prayers. I just wanted to say that Kieth Plott has antoher press release on So Gospel News. It gives out his e-mail address so you can contact him and his wife. Please, keep in mind that the singers in gospel music have a calling on thier lives, to witness for our Lord Jesus Christ through song. We need to keep them in our prayers.

]]> By: KB http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5809 KB Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:37:25 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5809 It seems that the smaller, local groups have less turnaround than the bigger ones. I know one group in our area that has been together for 8 years with one one known change. Three of the original members are still there, and still singing. Are they the greatest? No. Are they dedicated? OH YEAH! It seems that the smaller, local groups have less turnaround than the bigger ones. I know one group in our area that has been together for 8 years with one one known change. Three of the original members are still there, and still singing.

Are they the greatest? No. Are they dedicated? OH YEAH!

]]> By: Chuck Peters http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5808 Chuck Peters Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:15:40 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5808 I agree totally with DBM.. I edit most all press releases.. always have always will. I did it in secular news reporting too. example.. here is my re-write on the Plott press release.. not a big deal.. but a good little story that needed to be included: ASSURANCE BASS SINGER GOES SOLO Keith Plott.. bass singer for Brian Free & Assurance.. for the last four years.. announces that he will be starting a new ministry that will allow him more time with his wife. Plott also plans to do some limited traveling with Danny Funderburk and Mercy's Way. Commenting about BF&A.. Plott says: "I was among some of the best singers and musicians in Southern Gospel music and I wish them well." Fans may write: Keith Plott P.O.Box 5684 Anderson S.C. 29623 I agree totally with DBM.. I edit most all press releases.. always have always will. I did it in secular news reporting too.

example.. here is my re-write on the Plott press release.. not a big deal.. but a good little story that needed to be included:

ASSURANCE BASS SINGER GOES SOLO
Keith Plott.. bass singer for Brian Free & Assurance.. for the last four years.. announces that he will be starting a new ministry that will allow him more time with his wife. Plott also plans to do some limited traveling with Danny Funderburk and Mercy’s Way.

Commenting about BF&A.. Plott says: “I was among some of the best singers and musicians in Southern Gospel music and I wish them well.”

Fans may write:
Keith Plott
P.O.Box 5684
Anderson S.C. 29623

]]> By: Charles Brady http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5805 Charles Brady Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:11:48 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5805 With the extreme number of turnovers and now mergers in southern gospel (especially in some of the new big entertainment companies) it make me wonder if we should make a group stay together for at least 90 days before we give them any free press....... Someday soon these artists are going to have to learn how to get along with each other or we will be hosting the national solo convention...... I know that that some of the older artists made several changes over a 30 year career but some of these folks are moving so often they probably never unpack their suitcases...... I guess for me every group change that happens is like reporting that someone has completed their music tracks this week, then they complete their vocal tracks the next, then we get a PR that they've sent the master off to have it duplicated..... I'm sorry but it's just not newsworthy... And for Montana Man my credentials are that I own my site.... LOL!! With the extreme number of turnovers and now mergers in southern gospel (especially in some of the new big entertainment companies) it make me wonder if we should make a group stay together for at least 90 days before we give them any free press…….

Someday soon these artists are going to have to learn how to get along with each other or we will be hosting the national solo convention……

I know that that some of the older artists made several changes over a 30 year career but some of these folks are moving so often they probably never unpack their suitcases……

I guess for me every group change that happens is like reporting that someone has completed their music tracks this week, then they complete their vocal tracks the next, then we get a PR that they’ve sent the master off to have it duplicated….. I’m sorry but it’s just not newsworthy…

And for Montana Man my credentials are that I own my site…. LOL!!

]]> By: Lottie Squires http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5789 Lottie Squires Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:07:26 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5789 Please forgive me for a big "blonde moment!" I realized on my way home that it was Greg Day missing from that picture--not Keith. Boy, do I feel dumb! Please forgive me for a big “blonde moment!” I realized on my way home that it was Greg Day missing from that picture–not Keith. Boy, do I feel dumb!

]]> By: David Bruce Murray http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5788 David Bruce Murray Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:44:38 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/02/20/the-upperhand-in-pr/#comment-5788 One more point, and this advice goes out both to current group members as well as members who are so excited to be joining a new top-tier group. Closely observe how graciously your departing comrade is treated in the press release, and note what degree of appreciation is expressed for his years of devoted service. The same shall be done unto you. One more point, and this advice goes out both to current group members as well as members who are so excited to be joining a new top-tier group.

Closely observe how graciously your departing comrade is treated in the press release, and note what degree of appreciation is expressed for his years of devoted service.

The same shall be done unto you.

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