Comments on: How to buy a Dove nomination, hypothetically http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Tue, 22 May 2012 18:54:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-11157 Rod Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:49:43 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-11157 Felicia...This is a late post that will probably not be read but here's a short rebuttal. I don't blame the GMA for not taking SG seriously...I agree with you on every aspect. But they could take it or leave it...With good reason...The only ones who really care what the GMA or the "Doves" do or a few Sg artists who really know how important they are. So please do not misunderstand my language...The SG industry deserves everything they get or don't get. Felicia…This is a late post that will probably not be read but here’s a short rebuttal. I don’t blame the GMA for not taking SG seriously…I agree with you on every aspect. But they could take it or leave it…With good reason…The only ones who really care what the GMA or the “Doves” do or a few Sg artists who really know how important they are. So please do not misunderstand my language…The SG industry deserves everything they get or don’t get.

]]> By: Felicia http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-8321 Felicia Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:47:05 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-8321 Actually, Rod, yes I DO believe the GMA cares about SG music and the awards given to an SG artist. Who is the GMA? Well, it's me and about 4000 other people. So yes, SOME of us care deeply. As far as the GMA staff? Go to any major southern gospel event, NQC, the late night GMA showcases featuring sg,or any other concerts in the area and the GMA staff is there. Faithfully. As far as the Doves being a CCM event -- just like any such organization, the board members are voted in place by the members and that's how things are decided. SG wrote off the GMA for "stealing the doves" and refuses to participate -- so why should they include SG? And yet they still do, on some level. I have heard firsthand horror stories of how GMA employees have been treated at NQC and other places and yet they show our little piece of the industry great mercy. Actually, Rod, yes I DO believe the GMA cares about SG music and the awards given to an SG artist. Who is the GMA? Well, it’s me and about 4000 other people. So yes, SOME of us care deeply.

As far as the GMA staff? Go to any major southern gospel event, NQC, the late night GMA showcases featuring sg,or any other concerts in the area and the GMA staff is there. Faithfully.

As far as the Doves being a CCM event — just like any such organization, the board members are voted in place by the members and that’s how things are decided. SG wrote off the GMA for “stealing the doves” and refuses to participate — so why should they include SG? And yet they still do, on some level. I have heard firsthand horror stories of how GMA employees have been treated at NQC and other places and yet they show our little piece of the industry great mercy.

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7174 Rod Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:16:18 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7174 Also for all you SGers read post 18 again...You REALLY think the GMA cares about SG music or an award given to an SG artists...I have some alaskan beach front to sell...Any takers??? Of course GC that might just prove your point about YH nomination. Maybe they picked them out of a hat...PRESTO...HHHMmm...I might be changing to the dark side :) Also for all you SGers read post 18 again…You REALLY think the GMA cares about SG music or an award given to an SG artists…I have some alaskan beach front to sell…Any takers??? Of course GC that might just prove your point about YH nomination. Maybe they picked them out of a hat…PRESTO…HHHMmm…I might be changing to the dark side :)

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7173 Rod Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:09:56 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7173 JIm2: Comment 28 is actually supporting Dave Moody and Lamon records...Is that the truth. I agree with the talent factor that Gc and many others have preached on this thread. But the fact is you "CANNOT BUY" that many nominations. Not to mention they have actually won a dove or two (Lamon records) Again you guys are so into conspiracy theories it's incredible. Again I don't think YH was deserving of a nom on talent...But I wish I had they're tenacity, Manager and record label. Guys that is what record labels and managers are supposed to do...HELP THE ARTIST...The more deserving artists need better management and representation. Or for you conspiricacy theorists a lock and key voting system. JIm2: Comment 28 is actually supporting Dave Moody and Lamon records…Is that the truth. I agree with the talent factor that Gc and many others have preached on this thread. But the fact is you “CANNOT BUY” that many nominations. Not to mention they have actually won a dove or two (Lamon records) Again you guys are so into conspiracy theories it’s incredible. Again I don’t think YH was deserving of a nom on talent…But I wish I had they’re tenacity, Manager and record label. Guys that is what record labels and managers are supposed to do…HELP THE ARTIST…The more deserving artists need better management and representation. Or for you conspiricacy theorists a lock and key voting system.

]]> By: Jim2 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7160 Jim2 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:21:01 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7160 Agreed. SN is a FAN Award, and generally comes down to the group or artist with the most organized or rabid FANS. A popularity contest if you will. GMA Awards (as they are calling the Dove's nowadays) are supposed to be nominated and voted on by your peers and inventory professionals. That is the difference and reason for the uproar. I agree with gc on this one, that artistic awards need to be credible. Read comment 28 again, there's a lot of truth there. Agreed. SN is a FAN Award, and generally comes down to the group or artist with the most organized or rabid FANS. A popularity contest if you will. GMA Awards (as they are calling the Dove’s nowadays) are supposed to be nominated and voted on by your peers and inventory professionals. That is the difference and reason for the uproar. I agree with gc on this one, that artistic awards need to be credible. Read comment 28 again, there’s a lot of truth there.

]]> By: bgc http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7085 bgc Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:22:40 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7085 I agree GC. And I'll go another step. When the Christian Music listener looks at a nomination in a field such as SG and listens to a cut from an artist (who themselves or their producer used shady tactics to secure a nomination) the listener will critique the cut and say "Is this the best they have to represent this style?" This is the DOVE awards, representing talents of indiviuals sharing the music of Christ. If it's not right, we need places like Avery and people like GC to voice such discussions and challege discrepancies. I agree GC. And I’ll go another step. When the Christian Music listener looks at a nomination in a field such as SG and listens to a cut from an artist (who themselves or their producer used shady tactics to secure a nomination) the listener will critique the cut and say “Is this the best they have to represent this style?” This is the DOVE awards, representing talents of indiviuals sharing the music of Christ. If it’s not right, we need places like Avery and people like GC to voice such discussions and challege discrepancies.

]]> By: gc http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7057 gc Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:55:29 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7057 Dale, I happen to be an artist who wants artistic awards to be credible so that when they are awarded, the artist will be presented an award of excellence and not an award that was bought or manipulated. That my friend is why I am still barking about YH. It is a slap in the face of every Christian artist if the nominations were manipulated in any form. I personally believe that is the case with these nominations. Dale,
I happen to be an artist who wants artistic awards to be credible so that when they are awarded, the artist will be presented an award of excellence and not an award that was bought or manipulated. That my friend is why I am still barking about YH. It is a slap in the face of every Christian artist if the nominations were manipulated in any form. I personally believe that is the case with these nominations.

]]> By: dale embry http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7053 dale embry Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:15:04 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7053 GC I am just glad YH gave you something to do for the past few weeks. You must be eaten up- you stay on this story.GMA YH AND RHC could probably care less. GC
I am just glad YH gave you something to do for the past few weeks. You must be eaten up- you stay on this story.GMA YH AND RHC could probably care less.

]]> By: CG http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7045 CG Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:38:26 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7045 "And Elvis is still dead" No way! I just saw a billboard saying he was up for a Dove Award...oh, wait...wrong singer? ...Never mind! “And Elvis is still dead”

No way! I just saw a billboard saying he was up for a Dove Award…oh, wait…wrong singer? …Never mind!

]]> By: gc http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7044 gc Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:29:51 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7044 The DOVE awards carry much more weight with artist because it is recognized across the entire Christian music poulation. SN awards are not important enough to argue over in my opinion. Perfect example: YH did not invest money in winning a SN award that we know or be knowing or knowingstest...I will let Mr. spellright handle that one... The DOVE awards carry much more weight with artist because it is recognized across the entire Christian music poulation. SN awards are not important enough to argue over in my opinion. Perfect example: YH did not invest money in winning a SN award that we know or be knowing or knowingstest…I will let Mr. spellright handle that one…

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7042 Rod Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:32:52 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7042 By the way gang...NO ONE even addressed the fact that the Singing News Fan awards have the same problem. No one ever seems to want to look in our own back yard. If you're going to complain about YH and the Doves then complain about the Mckameys and the Singing News fan awards...Read post # 17 for my thoughts. Your thoughts? By the way gang…NO ONE even addressed the fact that the Singing News Fan awards have the same problem. No one ever seems to want to look in our own back yard. If you’re going to complain about YH and the Doves then complain about the Mckameys and the Singing News fan awards…Read post # 17 for my thoughts. Your thoughts?

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7041 Rod Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:27:07 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7041 Elivs Is DEAD??? I just seen him yesterday. Elivs Is DEAD??? I just seen him yesterday.

]]> By: gc http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7035 gc Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:28:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7035 How about Elvis still be dead? How about Elvis still be dead?

]]> By: not a grammarian http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7032 not a grammarian Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:34:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7032 Elvis is dead? Elvis is dead?

]]> By: gc http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7028 gc Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:31:35 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2007/03/15/how-to-buy-a-dove-nomination-hypothetically/#comment-7028 you valued it enough to respond. YH is just an innocent bystander? You have another conspiracy? you valued it enough to respond. YH is just an innocent bystander? You have another conspiracy?

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