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	<title>Comments on: Open thread</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
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		<title>By: Ferris Jooste</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-1186387</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferris Jooste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you rock David Phelps. I would pay any amount just to hear you sing. 

I've never heard such voice.  You are blessed and I appreciate your music.  Would just be nice to see you performing in South Africa. 

God bless you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you rock David Phelps. I would pay any amount just to hear you sing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard such voice.  You are blessed and I appreciate your music.  Would just be nice to see you performing in South Africa. </p>
<p>God bless you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-803263</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-803263</guid>
		<description>I agree with Kellie!  I didn't go to this, but more power to the ones that wanted to.  David didn't force anyone to go to this.  He planned it, did a lot of the work on the barn himself and then they promoted it.  If no one had bought tickets or enough weren't sold, then he would've known that God had other plans!  

I would've loved to have gone, but didn't have the money for the tickets....which isn't David's fault!  I went to a broadway play once....matinee...in NYC that was $55.00 each.....for matinee!  Can you imagine what the prime time tix would cost?  Why isn't anyone complaining about this?  I didn't have to buy that ticket for $55...no one forced me to go.  I wanted to go so I did!  Same with David!  

If we are to be salt and light to the world, I suggest we stop beating each other up and support and love one another!  David isn't perfect no more than any of you are...but he's learning and growing too!  When/if he does something that the Lord is not happy with, I'm sure He will let David know!  

Meanwhile, let's look at things through the Lord's eyes and give people more understanding!  

Whether David is the top vocalist in the world or not is not the issue here.....this website sucks on showing the world that Christians are loving!  No wonder the world wants nothing to do with the Lord...look at some of His representatives!  

JMHO,  of course!  But I chose love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kellie!  I didn&#8217;t go to this, but more power to the ones that wanted to.  David didn&#8217;t force anyone to go to this.  He planned it, did a lot of the work on the barn himself and then they promoted it.  If no one had bought tickets or enough weren&#8217;t sold, then he would&#8217;ve known that God had other plans!  </p>
<p>I would&#8217;ve loved to have gone, but didn&#8217;t have the money for the tickets&#8230;.which isn&#8217;t David&#8217;s fault!  I went to a broadway play once&#8230;.matinee&#8230;in NYC that was $55.00 each&#8230;..for matinee!  Can you imagine what the prime time tix would cost?  Why isn&#8217;t anyone complaining about this?  I didn&#8217;t have to buy that ticket for $55&#8230;no one forced me to go.  I wanted to go so I did!  Same with David!  </p>
<p>If we are to be salt and light to the world, I suggest we stop beating each other up and support and love one another!  David isn&#8217;t perfect no more than any of you are&#8230;but he&#8217;s learning and growing too!  When/if he does something that the Lord is not happy with, I&#8217;m sure He will let David know!  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, let&#8217;s look at things through the Lord&#8217;s eyes and give people more understanding!  </p>
<p>Whether David is the top vocalist in the world or not is not the issue here&#8230;..this website sucks on showing the world that Christians are loving!  No wonder the world wants nothing to do with the Lord&#8230;look at some of His representatives!  </p>
<p>JMHO,  of course!  But I chose love!</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-548477</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-548477</guid>
		<description>I went to David's Christmas video taping.  I thought maybe some of you would be interested in hearing about it.

We were picked up by a private chartered bus from our hotel and driven to the Phelps' farm.  There we were greeted by David and Lori Phelps and had a nice reception with them.  They advertised hors d'ouvres, but what they fed us was a full-fledged meal; lots of fancy sandwiches and salads and dips.  There were too many choices to count.  Everyone had their picture taken with David and Lori by a professional photographer.  
The concert itself was magical. There were two videos taped.  During the intermission, we had a dessert buffet featuring Blue Belle ice cream.  I think Blue Belle and Southern Living were the sponsors of the taping.  
David sang for hours.  Also performing was comedian Thor Ramsey.  The evening began at 4:00.  We didn't leave his property until 1 am.  We left with a gift bag that included a cd, a t-shirt, a commemorative poster of the event, and a gift from World Vision.
I had a wonderful evening with 279 others (his barn was definitely maxed out!!!) and I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who didn't think the evening was worth the money for the ticket, the travel, and lodging.  We were entertained at a level I've never experienced and I've been to hundreds of concerts, shows, symphonies, theatrical productions, and etc. 
 
David was blown away by the fact that so many were willing to attend his taping.  He kept saying, "I can't believe you're here....in my barn...where 'barn stuff' used to be."  We were thanked over and over again for our attendance.  He was gracious and hospitable as was his beautiful wife, who looked like she was having the time of her life.  Nice, nice people who bent over backwards for us and opened up their beautiful home (literally, their bathrooms) to us.
And just for the record, it DID snow!!  Buy the videos and see for yourselves!!  I'm sure they won't cost $195.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to David&#8217;s Christmas video taping.  I thought maybe some of you would be interested in hearing about it.</p>
<p>We were picked up by a private chartered bus from our hotel and driven to the Phelps&#8217; farm.  There we were greeted by David and Lori Phelps and had a nice reception with them.  They advertised hors d&#8217;ouvres, but what they fed us was a full-fledged meal; lots of fancy sandwiches and salads and dips.  There were too many choices to count.  Everyone had their picture taken with David and Lori by a professional photographer.<br />
The concert itself was magical. There were two videos taped.  During the intermission, we had a dessert buffet featuring Blue Belle ice cream.  I think Blue Belle and Southern Living were the sponsors of the taping.<br />
David sang for hours.  Also performing was comedian Thor Ramsey.  The evening began at 4:00.  We didn&#8217;t leave his property until 1 am.  We left with a gift bag that included a cd, a t-shirt, a commemorative poster of the event, and a gift from World Vision.<br />
I had a wonderful evening with 279 others (his barn was definitely maxed out!!!) and I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who didn&#8217;t think the evening was worth the money for the ticket, the travel, and lodging.  We were entertained at a level I&#8217;ve never experienced and I&#8217;ve been to hundreds of concerts, shows, symphonies, theatrical productions, and etc. </p>
<p>David was blown away by the fact that so many were willing to attend his taping.  He kept saying, &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re here&#8230;.in my barn&#8230;where &#8216;barn stuff&#8217; used to be.&#8221;  We were thanked over and over again for our attendance.  He was gracious and hospitable as was his beautiful wife, who looked like she was having the time of her life.  Nice, nice people who bent over backwards for us and opened up their beautiful home (literally, their bathrooms) to us.<br />
And just for the record, it DID snow!!  Buy the videos and see for yourselves!!  I&#8217;m sure they won&#8217;t cost $195.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-411163</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-411163</guid>
		<description>is a disease... man. ( that's what I should have written.
Oh yeah... Tom, Thanks for the compliments and for buying a Cd. I think your the only one who ever has... Ha ha, But seriously! You are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is a disease&#8230; man. ( that&#8217;s what I should have written.<br />
Oh yeah&#8230; Tom, Thanks for the compliments and for buying a Cd. I think your the only one who ever has&#8230; Ha ha, But seriously! You are.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-411162</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-411162</guid>
		<description>To Not Ernie. This is Is Josh Cobb. I don't know what your talking about "blowing the Lid off anything" There is nothing to blow a lid off of. I love Scott and Scott and Glen, and Roger, bless him, was a peach! Sensational journalism in a disease man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Not Ernie. This is Is Josh Cobb. I don&#8217;t know what your talking about &#8220;blowing the Lid off anything&#8221; There is nothing to blow a lid off of. I love Scott and Scott and Glen, and Roger, bless him, was a peach! Sensational journalism in a disease man.</p>
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		<title>By: Poppi72</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-349523</link>
		<dc:creator>Poppi72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-349523</guid>
		<description>Sure would be nice to be able to load this website and return to earlier posts and what the additional comments are. Does anyone have a suggestion?

Oh, I forgot....just not with it tonight. If anyone posted a comment on this subject, I wouldn't have the slightest clue as to how to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure would be nice to be able to load this website and return to earlier posts and what the additional comments are. Does anyone have a suggestion?</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot&#8230;.just not with it tonight. If anyone posted a comment on this subject, I wouldn&#8217;t have the slightest clue as to how to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous listener</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-335417</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-335417</guid>
		<description>#132-Trent...
I hope so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#132-Trent&#8230;<br />
I hope so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: c smith</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-334521</link>
		<dc:creator>c smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-334521</guid>
		<description>I feel that this ticket price was to get mainly richer people in to this concert.  Unfortunately, I think some people paid the ticket price who didn't probably have the money to afford it. David Phelps has some wacked out devoted phans.   I think money is what makes the christian music world go round, however, and you have to afford these things some way.  If people are going to pay this price, I guess they should run with it.  I think it makes me a little cynical however. (like thats anything new about this industry)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that this ticket price was to get mainly richer people in to this concert.  Unfortunately, I think some people paid the ticket price who didn&#8217;t probably have the money to afford it. David Phelps has some wacked out devoted phans.   I think money is what makes the christian music world go round, however, and you have to afford these things some way.  If people are going to pay this price, I guess they should run with it.  I think it makes me a little cynical however. (like thats anything new about this industry)</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-332559</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-332559</guid>
		<description>Someone mentioned earlier that the group Young Harmony came off the road.  Is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned earlier that the group Young Harmony came off the road.  Is that true?</p>
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		<title>By: cynical one</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-332399</link>
		<dc:creator>cynical one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-332399</guid>
		<description>New subject:  What's up with sogospelnews.com.  The website seems to be down, and has been down for over 24 hours that I'm aware of.  The message says, "We are temporarily offline to complete some maintenance checks and server upgrades.  Check back back shortly. "  

Does anyone know if that's all it really is?  

And does anyone know why I might be so cynical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New subject:  What&#8217;s up with sogospelnews.com.  The website seems to be down, and has been down for over 24 hours that I&#8217;m aware of.  The message says, &#8220;We are temporarily offline to complete some maintenance checks and server upgrades.  Check back back shortly. &#8221;  </p>
<p>Does anyone know if that&#8217;s all it really is?  </p>
<p>And does anyone know why I might be so cynical?</p>
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		<title>By: music4him</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-331528</link>
		<dc:creator>music4him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-331528</guid>
		<description>First of all, I do not know why several people on here will accuse David Phelps of getting a big head about himself, just because his ticket price is high.  

In the secular world, people pay $300 to see Michael Buble in concert.  Now I like Buble a lot, but he cannot hold a candle to David Phelps.

And it does not seem like $195 is too much since he sold out rather quickly.  I say good for him.

I know you can go to a taping of Bill Gaither for a lot less, but lets look at this from a business perspective.  Bill Gaither usually does his tapings in front of 30,000 people in a packed out stadium.  Now when you are producing a video-the time, the lights, the sound, the actual taping, paying for all the crews to handle each part of it, the venue, not even to mention the cost to design it, edit it, master it,duplicate it and promote both the concert and sales of the DVD-it takes a lot of finances to pull it off.  

Now it is know problem for Bill Gaither when he is packing out a Stadium to put the tickets at $20 to $50 a ticket.  Not only will it pay for everything and more, He knows he is going to sell several million dollars off of that one taping.

David is taking a different approach.  He is doing a more intimate concert on his ranch, where they even have to worry about dressing up the barn.  I think this is a really cool idea to do a Christmas taping on a ranch in a Big Barn, especially since it is David's.  OF COURSE THE PRICE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP.  It is his own residence.

Christian artist have been getting a bad rap for not having quality.  I say well done to David.  Michael Buble can attract people to music and sell out a concert for $300, so if David can attract people to our music for $200, then I say Congradulations to David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I do not know why several people on here will accuse David Phelps of getting a big head about himself, just because his ticket price is high.  </p>
<p>In the secular world, people pay $300 to see Michael Buble in concert.  Now I like Buble a lot, but he cannot hold a candle to David Phelps.</p>
<p>And it does not seem like $195 is too much since he sold out rather quickly.  I say good for him.</p>
<p>I know you can go to a taping of Bill Gaither for a lot less, but lets look at this from a business perspective.  Bill Gaither usually does his tapings in front of 30,000 people in a packed out stadium.  Now when you are producing a video-the time, the lights, the sound, the actual taping, paying for all the crews to handle each part of it, the venue, not even to mention the cost to design it, edit it, master it,duplicate it and promote both the concert and sales of the DVD-it takes a lot of finances to pull it off.  </p>
<p>Now it is know problem for Bill Gaither when he is packing out a Stadium to put the tickets at $20 to $50 a ticket.  Not only will it pay for everything and more, He knows he is going to sell several million dollars off of that one taping.</p>
<p>David is taking a different approach.  He is doing a more intimate concert on his ranch, where they even have to worry about dressing up the barn.  I think this is a really cool idea to do a Christmas taping on a ranch in a Big Barn, especially since it is David&#8217;s.  OF COURSE THE PRICE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP.  It is his own residence.</p>
<p>Christian artist have been getting a bad rap for not having quality.  I say well done to David.  Michael Buble can attract people to music and sell out a concert for $300, so if David can attract people to our music for $200, then I say Congradulations to David.</p>
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		<title>By: wackythinker</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-331147</link>
		<dc:creator>wackythinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-331147</guid>
		<description>There are a lot of people willing to pay big bucks to see their favorite artists.  Look at the "gold circle seating" trend, not just in pop and ccm, but in s/g, too.  Especially if that means face time with the artist, folks will pay through the nose.  

And in s/g, it's not just the Gaither concerts.  Other promoters are catching on, and selling.  I wonder what's next, pay to sing with your favorite artist?

We've seen on previous threads about blue-hairs' inappropriate touching of singers at the record table.  Maybe we could get some of them to pay for that privilege.  Oops, no, that's illegal in most states.  They'll have to continue to do it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of people willing to pay big bucks to see their favorite artists.  Look at the &#8220;gold circle seating&#8221; trend, not just in pop and ccm, but in s/g, too.  Especially if that means face time with the artist, folks will pay through the nose.  </p>
<p>And in s/g, it&#8217;s not just the Gaither concerts.  Other promoters are catching on, and selling.  I wonder what&#8217;s next, pay to sing with your favorite artist?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen on previous threads about blue-hairs&#8217; inappropriate touching of singers at the record table.  Maybe we could get some of them to pay for that privilege.  Oops, no, that&#8217;s illegal in most states.  They&#8217;ll have to continue to do it for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Axlgee</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-330741</link>
		<dc:creator>Axlgee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-330741</guid>
		<description>I recieve e-mails from David's website. The taping is actually for 2 videos. The show actually sold out. They just recently added 80 more seats. So evidentally Mr. Phelps has alot more dedicated fans than you would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recieve e-mails from David&#8217;s website. The taping is actually for 2 videos. The show actually sold out. They just recently added 80 more seats. So evidentally Mr. Phelps has alot more dedicated fans than you would think.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Swain</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-327709</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Swain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-327709</guid>
		<description>#127: Ask and ye shall recieve. A joint press release was sent out today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#127: Ask and ye shall recieve. A joint press release was sent out today.</p>
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		<title>By: onthebubble</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-326696</link>
		<dc:creator>onthebubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/22/open-thread-7/#comment-326696</guid>
		<description>I hear that Jonathan left on good terms, that he was just burnt out after being on the road for Soooooo many years - and that now he is selling cars in Alabama close to where they live.

His father has also been very ill so that may have had something to do with it, too.
Hopefully, either Jonathan or Daniel Riley will release a statement to tell us what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear that Jonathan left on good terms, that he was just burnt out after being on the road for Soooooo many years - and that now he is selling cars in Alabama close to where they live.</p>
<p>His father has also been very ill so that may have had something to do with it, too.<br />
Hopefully, either Jonathan or Daniel Riley will release a statement to tell us what happened.</p>
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