Comments on: Spring break http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Wed, 23 May 2012 10:57:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: CVH http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-347409 CVH Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:20:49 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-347409 RE: quartet-man Very cool. I'm going to check it out. Thanks man! RE: quartet-man

Very cool. I’m going to check it out. Thanks man!

]]> By: Tim http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-346539 Tim Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:00:18 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-346539 Re: #135 - Snarfie Re: #135 - Snarfie

]]> By: philo http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-346200 philo Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:50:14 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-346200 #143 Well said! Never do 2day that u can put off till 2mrw.lol. #143 Well said! Never do 2day that u can put off till 2mrw.lol.

]]> By: Aaron Swain http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-345876 Aaron Swain Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:44:49 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-345876 142: Ah, aren't we all? I actually wear a shirt quite often that says "Procrastinators Unite.... Tomorrow" 142: Ah, aren’t we all? I actually wear a shirt quite often that says “Procrastinators Unite…. Tomorrow”

]]> By: philo http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-345202 philo Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:50:52 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-345202 139 Hi Aaron i'm from Northern Ireland and i took the said footage using the old vhs British Pal format which the American video machines then could'nt play. I would need to dig the tape out convert it to dvd and then post it ,hopefully i'll get round to it unfortunately i'm a incurable procrastinist 139 Hi Aaron i’m from Northern Ireland and i took the said footage using the old vhs British Pal format which the American video machines then could’nt play. I would need to dig the tape out convert it to dvd and then post it ,hopefully i’ll get round to it unfortunately i’m a incurable procrastinist

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344885 quartet-man Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:07:48 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344885 The way I look at Sinner Saved By Grace is that it is I'm just a Sinner (who was) saved By Grace. Without grace we all were sinners and are still not perfect. Of course that doesn't give us license to take forgiveness for granted and to willingly sin, however. The way I look at Sinner Saved By Grace is that it is I’m just a Sinner (who was) saved By Grace. Without grace we all were sinners and are still not perfect. Of course that doesn’t give us license to take forgiveness for granted and to willingly sin, however.

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344877 quartet-man Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:02:27 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344877 Hey, CVH found in a google search: http://www.wkdwich.com/gremlin.htm Hey, CVH found in a google search:
http://www.wkdwich.com/gremlin.htm

]]> By: Aaron Swain http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344542 Aaron Swain Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:43:04 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-344542 138: Any chance we could see that video. That'd be something to behold! 138: Any chance we could see that video. That’d be something to behold!

]]> By: philo http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343861 philo Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:59:46 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343861 to Thom#96.To clarify my remark that Brian Routh outsang Brian Free i shall explain further. The incident occurred during the natqc breakfast riverboat cruise when several groups took their turn to perform. A good natured competition started with-i think-Chris Collins singing Looking for a City in a fairly low key, he gradually stepped it up as high as he could go until BF took the mic and blew the roof off the thing. Everyone on board was amazed and thrilled until someone shouted for BR to come out. He was reluctant due to a heavy cold and was waving a little hankey around to emphasize the fact. Well to cut a long story short the piano player raised it another step and cold or not BR blew the socks off BF.All Mr Free could do was shake his head in submisson.In closing i have the irrevocable evidence on video.Hope this was a salutary little assay. to Thom#96.To clarify my remark that Brian Routh outsang Brian Free i shall explain further. The incident occurred during the natqc breakfast riverboat cruise when several groups took their turn to perform. A good natured competition started with-i think-Chris Collins singing Looking for a City in a fairly low key, he gradually stepped it up as high as he could go until BF took the mic and blew the roof off the thing. Everyone on board was amazed and thrilled until someone shouted for BR to come out. He was reluctant due to a heavy cold and was waving a little hankey around to emphasize the fact. Well to cut a long story short the piano player raised it another step and cold or not BR blew the socks off BF.All Mr Free could do was shake his head in submisson.In closing i have the irrevocable evidence on video.Hope this was a salutary little assay.

]]> By: Revpaul http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343456 Revpaul Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:56:34 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343456 Re #135 Snarfie, I'm not sure that a "farewell recording" is the same as an announcement to "come off the road." I believe this will be the 50th recording by The Sego's, and with all that to supply their product table, they could certainly continue touring for quite some time. BTW, on the "Golden Girls" tour, Naomi's turn includes her whole group. Re #135 Snarfie,
I’m not sure that a “farewell recording” is the same as an announcement to “come off the road.” I believe this will be the 50th recording by The Sego’s, and with all that to supply their product table, they could certainly continue touring for quite some time.
BTW, on the “Golden Girls” tour, Naomi’s turn includes her whole group.

]]> By: ET http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343403 ET Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:24:23 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-343403 Re: #135 - Yeah, they clearly stated that they were recording their last CD at this same time last year. And it "appeared" they were concluding their "farewell tour" at the end of 2007, according to their own press release...last year at this same time. Guess the "last cd" was delayed and the "farewell tour" has obviously been extended. LOL Re: #135 -
Yeah, they clearly stated that they were recording their last CD at this same time last year. And it “appeared” they were concluding their “farewell tour” at the end of 2007, according to their own press release…last year at this same time. Guess the “last cd” was delayed and the “farewell tour” has obviously been extended. LOL

]]> By: Snarfie http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342954 Snarfie Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:08:09 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342954 Regarding Naomi Sego's latest studio effort...http://www.sogospellovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12054. This clearly states "...this will be the farewell recording for this legendary group." There was no mention in the info provided in the press release regarding Naomi's choosing to tour (or not) with other artists referenced above. However, from the info furnished, it does appear that the group, "Naomi and The Segos", will be coming off the road. JMHO Regarding Naomi Sego’s latest studio effort…http://www.sogospellovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12054.

This clearly states “…this will be the farewell recording for this legendary group.” There was no mention in the info provided in the press release regarding Naomi’s choosing to tour (or not) with other artists referenced above. However, from the info furnished, it does appear that the group, “Naomi and The Segos”, will be coming off the road. JMHO

]]> By: Trent http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342868 Trent Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:30 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342868 #132 ET, great post and I think you're right. Let's look at sogospelnews.com for an example. They are supposedly a news site--and they are to a certain extent--but the kids also have an artist representation business. Therefore, you cannot objectively cover news in SG music if the negative news involves one of the artists you represent. It will shed a bad light on your artist and you could lose their business. The problem is that they are trying to be both a news site and an artist representation organization. I think they would argue that the Mom & Dad run the site and the kids run Southern Spin, but it's really tied in tight enough that most people lump them together. Now, take a look at this site, which is probably the most heavily-trafficked site regarding SG. I love the site, but it's primarily a gossipfest and an opportunity for Douglas and the rest of us to share our feelings about the genre. I think that's healthy for us and for the genre to a degree, because there's really nowhere else to open up like you can here. What happens is that truths are spoken many, many times amongst the fog, smog and rumors and people latch onto the truths that cannot even be whispered elsewhere. The artists (trust me) are rabid averyfineline.com fans. So if you or I or Joe Blow points out that an artist twitches his leg too much on stage or sings that one particular phrase wrong on "Love Lifted Me", chances are strong that the artist will have corrected it when you see them the next weekend. That's the power of this site. This site makes artists and business people more acountable in SG than they ever have been in the past because here, for the first time, it is SAID publicly. Artists and record execs know that they have to address their issues when they are being broadcast amongst fans and industry folks on this website. That's pretty powerful. But you are right about a great news organization. There just isn't one for SG. Until someone comes along and just tells the news like it is without favor, we'll still be learning that Crystal River and Hope's Call and the Steele's have disbanded two or three months after the fact. #132 ET, great post and I think you’re right. Let’s look at sogospelnews.com for an example. They are supposedly a news site–and they are to a certain extent–but the kids also have an artist representation business. Therefore, you cannot objectively cover news in SG music if the negative news involves one of the artists you represent. It will shed a bad light on your artist and you could lose their business. The problem is that they are trying to be both a news site and an artist representation organization. I think they would argue that the Mom & Dad run the site and the kids run Southern Spin, but it’s really tied in tight enough that most people lump them together.

Now, take a look at this site, which is probably the most heavily-trafficked site regarding SG. I love the site, but it’s primarily a gossipfest and an opportunity for Douglas and the rest of us to share our feelings about the genre. I think that’s healthy for us and for the genre to a degree, because there’s really nowhere else to open up like you can here. What happens is that truths are spoken many, many times amongst the fog, smog and rumors and people latch onto the truths that cannot even be whispered elsewhere. The artists (trust me) are rabid averyfineline.com fans. So if you or I or Joe Blow points out that an artist twitches his leg too much on stage or sings that one particular phrase wrong on “Love Lifted Me”, chances are strong that the artist will have corrected it when you see them the next weekend. That’s the power of this site. This site makes artists and business people more acountable in SG than they ever have been in the past because here, for the first time, it is SAID publicly. Artists and record execs know that they have to address their issues when they are being broadcast amongst fans and industry folks on this website. That’s pretty powerful.

But you are right about a great news organization. There just isn’t one for SG. Until someone comes along and just tells the news like it is without favor, we’ll still be learning that Crystal River and Hope’s Call and the Steele’s have disbanded two or three months after the fact.

]]> By: CVH http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342755 CVH Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:41:05 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342755 RE: Trent (#120) Just for the record, I used to drive a '72 Gremlin. I'd love to find another one now but most of what you see advertised are the sloppy, cheesy '74 (or later) Gremlin X's. I'm glad I shared that. RE: Trent (#120)

Just for the record, I used to drive a ‘72 Gremlin. I’d love to find another one now but most of what you see advertised are the sloppy, cheesy ‘74 (or later) Gremlin X’s.

I’m glad I shared that.

]]> By: ET http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342639 ET Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:15:31 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/02/27/spring-break/#comment-342639 Re: #129/Trent - You make a very good point. But I wouldn't say no one's got a finger on the pulse of the genre. It just isn't reported. And your next statement explains why the "whole story" or the "rest of the story" is never reported by the so-called sg news outlets. And you summed it up in one word - accountable. (More specifically, the absence of accountability.) Those who do report the "news" in sg are not going to report the negatives for several (obvious) reasons. God knows Singing News won't report real news because, as they stated in a previous issue a few years ago when the whole Kirk Talley/homosexuality/exploitation thing blew up, "sin isn't news." That seems to be the overall mentality of the sg media. It could be that sg media won't report the whole story for fear of being sued by those in the biz who've been "exposed." The truth is that sg is such a small community that most everybody knows everybody elses business anyway. Does sg media really have the same "freedom of the press" as the mainstream media? Plus, if the sg media reported the whole story on some of their big money makers, they'd lose support and sg would be on the decline....again. I suppose by now that everybody inside the industry knows their sins and indescretions aren't going to be reported like that of the mainstream media...so there is no fear, no accountability. Thus, we have the continual generic fluff like: "to spend more time with the family" and "the Lord is leading in another direction" instead of "going home to save my marriage after being caught in an adulterous affair" or "I got a better job offer." I'm not at all suggesting that we really even need to know everything...even if it is reported by a legitimate news agency. But it seems that real news reporting might be the only real motivation for accountability...and THAT IS needed. Re: #129/Trent -
You make a very good point. But I wouldn’t say no one’s got a finger on the pulse of the genre. It just isn’t reported. And your next statement explains why the “whole story” or the “rest of the story” is never reported by the so-called sg news outlets. And you summed it up in one word - accountable. (More specifically, the absence of accountability.)

Those who do report the “news” in sg are not going to report the negatives for several (obvious) reasons.

God knows Singing News won’t report real news because, as they stated in a previous issue a few years ago when the whole Kirk Talley/homosexuality/exploitation thing blew up, “sin isn’t news.”

That seems to be the overall mentality of the sg media.

It could be that sg media won’t report the whole story for fear of being sued by those in the biz who’ve been “exposed.” The truth is that sg is such a small community that most everybody knows everybody elses business anyway. Does sg media really have the same “freedom of the press” as the mainstream media?

Plus, if the sg media reported the whole story on some of their big money makers, they’d lose support and sg would be on the decline….again.

I suppose by now that everybody inside the industry knows their sins and indescretions aren’t going to be reported like that of the mainstream media…so there is no fear, no accountability.

Thus, we have the continual generic fluff like: “to spend more time with the family” and “the Lord is leading in another direction” instead of “going home to save my marriage after being caught in an adulterous affair” or “I got a better job offer.”

I’m not at all suggesting that we really even need to know everything…even if it is reported by a legitimate news agency. But it seems that real news reporting might be the only real motivation for accountability…and THAT IS needed.

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