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	<title>Comments on: Bill Gaither in History</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 11:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joan Boelema</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-1236680</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Boelema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-1236680</guid>
		<description>I have Bill &#38; Gloria's "He touched me" collection of their songs published in 1969.  My question is - how can I find out if they had ever done a concert in Grand Rapids, MI way, way back in years.  I have a friend that says she had attended such a concert and I think it was held at the Godwin High School auditorium.
Do you have any such info?
Thanks - Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Bill &amp; Gloria&#8217;s &#8220;He touched me&#8221; collection of their songs published in 1969.  My question is - how can I find out if they had ever done a concert in Grand Rapids, MI way, way back in years.  I have a friend that says she had attended such a concert and I think it was held at the Godwin High School auditorium.<br />
Do you have any such info?<br />
Thanks - Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Payton</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-368865</link>
		<dc:creator>Payton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-368865</guid>
		<description>Am I the only one on here who is just about "Gaithered out"? I know there are so many other things in SG other than Bill Gaither that we could be discussing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one on here who is just about &#8220;Gaithered out&#8221;? I know there are so many other things in SG other than Bill Gaither that we could be discussing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-365040</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-365040</guid>
		<description>Mike -- Although Donnie Sumner was part of the Stamps during the Elvis days, and JD's nephew, he really hold no other prominent part of gospel music history.  He was not a front man, never had a large presence as a soloist, even within the Stamps group.  

He was an excellent singer, and wrote a few significant songs, I don't think he had a big enough presence for Bill to warrant a tribute.  Fortunately, he has had solos on several Homecoming projects.

I'm afraid Donnie will be not much more than a footnote in sg history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8212; Although Donnie Sumner was part of the Stamps during the Elvis days, and JD&#8217;s nephew, he really hold no other prominent part of gospel music history.  He was not a front man, never had a large presence as a soloist, even within the Stamps group.  </p>
<p>He was an excellent singer, and wrote a few significant songs, I don&#8217;t think he had a big enough presence for Bill to warrant a tribute.  Fortunately, he has had solos on several Homecoming projects.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid Donnie will be not much more than a footnote in sg history.</p>
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		<title>By: CVH</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-365004</link>
		<dc:creator>CVH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-365004</guid>
		<description>Avery said, "...and not just among old timers like CVH." 

Gee, being an 'old timer', it took me a couple days to get back to this thread; then I had to find my reading glasses and put the magnifier in front of the monitor, lol.

I guess everything's relative.  I'm 53.  I think of 'old timers' as people in their 70's or 80's.  And I regularly throw out the membership offers I get in the mail from the AARP.  Maybe I'm just in denial.  

Oops, gotta go...Lawrence Welk is on tv and my large print Reader's Digest just came in the mail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avery said, &#8220;&#8230;and not just among old timers like CVH.&#8221; </p>
<p>Gee, being an &#8216;old timer&#8217;, it took me a couple days to get back to this thread; then I had to find my reading glasses and put the magnifier in front of the monitor, lol.</p>
<p>I guess everything&#8217;s relative.  I&#8217;m 53.  I think of &#8216;old timers&#8217; as people in their 70&#8217;s or 80&#8217;s.  And I regularly throw out the membership offers I get in the mail from the AARP.  Maybe I&#8217;m just in denial.  </p>
<p>Oops, gotta go&#8230;Lawrence Welk is on tv and my large print Reader&#8217;s Digest just came in the mail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GospelMusicFan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363728</link>
		<dc:creator>GospelMusicFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363728</guid>
		<description>This blogger likes reading one the books about Bill Gaither:
http://ourworld-lastshallbefirst.blogspot.com/2008/03/its-more-than-music-by-bill-gaither.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blogger likes reading one the books about Bill Gaither:<br />
<a href="http://ourworld-lastshallbefirst.blogspot.com/2008/03/its-more-than-music-by-bill-gaither.html" rel="nofollow">http://ourworld-lastshallbefirst.blogspot.com/2008/03/its-more-than-music-by-bill-gaither.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: sockpuppet</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363422</link>
		<dc:creator>sockpuppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363422</guid>
		<description>Mike, #15
At the risk of encouraging you, Donnie Sumner will be featured on the song "Then I Met the Master" on the upcoming "Rock of Ages" Gaither project due out in a couple of weeks.  
Apropos to another thread on this blog, Classic Imperials will also have a cut "The Love of God"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, #15<br />
At the risk of encouraging you, Donnie Sumner will be featured on the song &#8220;Then I Met the Master&#8221; on the upcoming &#8220;Rock of Ages&#8221; Gaither project due out in a couple of weeks.<br />
Apropos to another thread on this blog, Classic Imperials will also have a cut &#8220;The Love of God&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363299</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-363299</guid>
		<description>I had the opportunity last night to need something to read for a while, and I pulled out "I Almost Missed The Sunset." Very close to the beginning he mentions listening to SG quartets such as the Blackwoods and Dixie Four while growing up, and also mentions others including when he started pitching songs. So, that is evidence that he has a genuine love for it.

While we are doing a wish list, I wish the GVB would tour more. Perhaps they are some now with Sig Sound, I haven't kept up with their schedule, however, for the most part since Homecoming (and even early on), the GVB has been underutilzed in favor of all of the Homecoming artists and earlier the Gaither Trio. Here we have one of the top groups, and you can generally only get a few songs from them.

I was blessed enough to hear them in a full concert before the Homecoming stuff took off as much as it did. This was with Murray, English, and Lowry, but at the time the way he introduced Murray, Murray might have already been gone and was back filling in. I could be wrong, but it sure sounded like Murray was helping out. This was before Franklin though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the opportunity last night to need something to read for a while, and I pulled out &#8220;I Almost Missed The Sunset.&#8221; Very close to the beginning he mentions listening to SG quartets such as the Blackwoods and Dixie Four while growing up, and also mentions others including when he started pitching songs. So, that is evidence that he has a genuine love for it.</p>
<p>While we are doing a wish list, I wish the GVB would tour more. Perhaps they are some now with Sig Sound, I haven&#8217;t kept up with their schedule, however, for the most part since Homecoming (and even early on), the GVB has been underutilzed in favor of all of the Homecoming artists and earlier the Gaither Trio. Here we have one of the top groups, and you can generally only get a few songs from them.</p>
<p>I was blessed enough to hear them in a full concert before the Homecoming stuff took off as much as it did. This was with Murray, English, and Lowry, but at the time the way he introduced Murray, Murray might have already been gone and was back filling in. I could be wrong, but it sure sounded like Murray was helping out. This was before Franklin though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fyfe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362880</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Fyfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362880</guid>
		<description>Bill gaither has done videos and d,v,d.s..on many of his home comeing friends. im suggesting he do a special on donnie sumner the greatest gospel singer ever who sings with heart felt passion and what a gospel concert he puts on. Come on Mr Gaither with the elvis connection and being J, Ds. nephew and his testimony it would make agreat homecomeing video. As youve probably gathered im a donnie sumner fan and do not think Mr Gaither uses him enough on his homecomeing videos he never seems tio get a whole song to sing only the chosen ones get that that privilige start useing the old ones Mr Gaither thats what made your videos special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill gaither has done videos and d,v,d.s..on many of his home comeing friends. im suggesting he do a special on donnie sumner the greatest gospel singer ever who sings with heart felt passion and what a gospel concert he puts on. Come on Mr Gaither with the elvis connection and being J, Ds. nephew and his testimony it would make agreat homecomeing video. As youve probably gathered im a donnie sumner fan and do not think Mr Gaither uses him enough on his homecomeing videos he never seems tio get a whole song to sing only the chosen ones get that that privilige start useing the old ones Mr Gaither thats what made your videos special.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362550</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362550</guid>
		<description>I guess I had even more to say, Woody. :)Thanks for the tip about Resources. I might compile a list and see if they carry them (even if they are not on Gaither's site.) I might be in the minority here, but on the Homecomings I prefer the performances by the individual groups (makeshift or not) more than the ones with the choir or mostly with the choir. At least many I like that do utilize the choir more, but I like, use soloists that make them stand out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I had even more to say, Woody. :)Thanks for the tip about Resources. I might compile a list and see if they carry them (even if they are not on Gaither&#8217;s site.) I might be in the minority here, but on the Homecomings I prefer the performances by the individual groups (makeshift or not) more than the ones with the choir or mostly with the choir. At least many I like that do utilize the choir more, but I like, use soloists that make them stand out.</p>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362545</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362545</guid>
		<description>Woody, not just to contradict, but most of the recent Homecoming releases have NOT had tracks released.  Now, if GFR can sell you a custom-made cd, that's a different story.  But the Gaither organization has not released tracks to retail for at least the last 3 or 4 projects (Picnic, Campfire, and Together, to be specific).  

If your local Christian does not have a track for the song you're looking for, and if they don't offer to check, ask them to call New Day Christian Distributors, as they are now the primary source for both Daywind and Gaither accompaniment tracks.

Hope this helps someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, not just to contradict, but most of the recent Homecoming releases have NOT had tracks released.  Now, if GFR can sell you a custom-made cd, that&#8217;s a different story.  But the Gaither organization has not released tracks to retail for at least the last 3 or 4 projects (Picnic, Campfire, and Together, to be specific).  </p>
<p>If your local Christian does not have a track for the song you&#8217;re looking for, and if they don&#8217;t offer to check, ask them to call New Day Christian Distributors, as they are now the primary source for both Daywind and Gaither accompaniment tracks.</p>
<p>Hope this helps someone.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362540</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362540</guid>
		<description>By the way, Woody, although you put "worthless" in quotes, I never used worthless at all. You used that. I mentioned  your two songs because they came to mind as ones I saw in bookstores and ones that I thought weren't commercial enough for in church needs. Great for the troupe when they sang in New York, but surely you would have to agree that they would have limited applications outside of New York.

I do hope you understand that I didn't attack the quality of your writing or equate them with the only two songs that I thought wouldn't sell as well as others.  For the record, several of my favorite Homecoming tracks are not released (from what I can tell.) Some have been, but you are certainly in good company. Different strokes for different folks. For instance, I preferred the version of Night Before Easter with Donnie Sumner instead of Jessie Dixion. I wanted Joy In My Heart, The Robe Of Calvary, and Lord, Feed Your Children. There are several others, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Ones I really like they did release were ones such as "This World Is Not Home", Canaanland Is Just In Sight, The Haven Of Rest, Glorious Freedom, Hear My Song Lord, O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing, Master Of the Wind, The Statue Of Liberty, Child Of The King (although I wish they had done the version with only Younce) and some others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Woody, although you put &#8220;worthless&#8221; in quotes, I never used worthless at all. You used that. I mentioned  your two songs because they came to mind as ones I saw in bookstores and ones that I thought weren&#8217;t commercial enough for in church needs. Great for the troupe when they sang in New York, but surely you would have to agree that they would have limited applications outside of New York.</p>
<p>I do hope you understand that I didn&#8217;t attack the quality of your writing or equate them with the only two songs that I thought wouldn&#8217;t sell as well as others.  For the record, several of my favorite Homecoming tracks are not released (from what I can tell.) Some have been, but you are certainly in good company. Different strokes for different folks. For instance, I preferred the version of Night Before Easter with Donnie Sumner instead of Jessie Dixion. I wanted Joy In My Heart, The Robe Of Calvary, and Lord, Feed Your Children. There are several others, but I can&#8217;t think of them off the top of my head. Ones I really like they did release were ones such as &#8220;This World Is Not Home&#8221;, Canaanland Is Just In Sight, The Haven Of Rest, Glorious Freedom, Hear My Song Lord, O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing, Master Of the Wind, The Statue Of Liberty, Child Of The King (although I wish they had done the version with only Younce) and some others.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362514</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362514</guid>
		<description>Woody, I certainly never meant they were worthless and I apologize that it sounded that way. I am sure that they were useful in New York, after 09/11. I was simply using those as examples from a commercial standpoint. You have written some great songs that I love, but I stand by the fact that I don't really see those as being in high demand for performances in a church setting. 

Let's just say I have checked online for tracks in places such as christianbbok and other places, local bookstores, and even Gaither himself. He carries more, but not aot of songs, I have been to Gaithers once, but don't recall a lot of tracks. By the way, didn't you write the new(er) theme song for Phipps Gospel Sing? It wouldn't be one I would sing in church either, but I do like it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, I certainly never meant they were worthless and I apologize that it sounded that way. I am sure that they were useful in New York, after 09/11. I was simply using those as examples from a commercial standpoint. You have written some great songs that I love, but I stand by the fact that I don&#8217;t really see those as being in high demand for performances in a church setting. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say I have checked online for tracks in places such as christianbbok and other places, local bookstores, and even Gaither himself. He carries more, but not aot of songs, I have been to Gaithers once, but don&#8217;t recall a lot of tracks. By the way, didn&#8217;t you write the new(er) theme song for Phipps Gospel Sing? It wouldn&#8217;t be one I would sing in church either, but I do like it. <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: w. w.</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362449</link>
		<dc:creator>w. w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362449</guid>
		<description>Quartet Man said . . . 
". . .  better in favor of songs published by Gaithers company such as God Loves New York City, New York City Have We Got A Song For You etc."

Trying not to take that too personally. . . but since those are my songs, I don't have a choice!  (Insert Laughter!)  I co-published the first title you mentioned with Gaither Music, and the second one, I published 100%, so that is not why they released them.  I am thankful for the exposure.  Almost all the songs released on the Homecoming programs are available.  Perhaps you have not been contacting the right source.  Many bookstores don't order them all, but if you contact Gaither Family Resources in Alexandria, you will find more Homecoming Tracks available than you could ever use, including those two "worthless" songs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quartet Man said . . .<br />
&#8220;. . .  better in favor of songs published by Gaithers company such as God Loves New York City, New York City Have We Got A Song For You etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trying not to take that too personally. . . but since those are my songs, I don&#8217;t have a choice!  (Insert Laughter!)  I co-published the first title you mentioned with Gaither Music, and the second one, I published 100%, so that is not why they released them.  I am thankful for the exposure.  Almost all the songs released on the Homecoming programs are available.  Perhaps you have not been contacting the right source.  Many bookstores don&#8217;t order them all, but if you contact Gaither Family Resources in Alexandria, you will find more Homecoming Tracks available than you could ever use, including those two &#8220;worthless&#8221; songs!</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362410</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362410</guid>
		<description>I failed to mention that I believe Bill did and does love SG. I have and have read both books and I don't think the second was rewriting history as it was sharing points of your life that perhaps many of the fans reading the first book wouldn't care about, but the ones who he gained after Homemoming would. Also, remember his love and support of SG in the seventies and eighties as well as the fact the first song the GVB (a male quartet) sang was First Day In Heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I failed to mention that I believe Bill did and does love SG. I have and have read both books and I don&#8217;t think the second was rewriting history as it was sharing points of your life that perhaps many of the fans reading the first book wouldn&#8217;t care about, but the ones who he gained after Homemoming would. Also, remember his love and support of SG in the seventies and eighties as well as the fact the first song the GVB (a male quartet) sang was First Day In Heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362318</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/03/26/bill-gaither-in-history/#comment-362318</guid>
		<description>I wish they would do more with the Gaither Vocal Band too (a reunion comes to mind) as well as reissuing old GVB and trio stuff on DVD as well as Praise Gatherings. There was supposed to be a video released that had some songs from the GVB OneX1 and maybe some trio songs too. I think it had four songs by the GVB (going strictly by memory.) It seems like Fools For Lesser Things, Look Up Lamb Of God (maybe) and one other. I would love to find that, but have not.

I also hate the choices sometimes they make as far as Gaither Homecoming accompaniment tracks released. They overlook better songs, more popular songs, and what I think would sell better in favor of songs published by Gaithers company such as God Loves New York City, New York City Have We Got A Song For You etc. I mean, other than directly after 09/11 and by New Yorkers themselves, just how many would buy and sing this in church? There are other examples. Gaither is a great businessman, but I can't understand some of these decisions although he doesn't need me telling him how to be successful. To me though, it seems that selling 3 times as much tracks at say 95% profit beats getting the whole pie, but only selling 1/3. 

Now, I want to say I admire Bill, love a lot of his music and know he has done great things. He also has helped several and seems to love doing so often putting their success over his as far as featuring the stronger singers (even though he knows they all succeed when one wins.) Other examples are in encouraging Sandi Patty, Michael English etc. to further their solo careers instead of selfishly hanging on because they helped him be more successful. That is selfless.

One thing I don't like though, is misinformation out there. Bill himself claims the GVB started a year later than they did. The proof is a live album the year before by the Gaither Trio (Live Across America) that has the GVB (but not named) doing "First Day In Heaven" much as described in their history. I understand that he has a bad memory and is more concerned in the now and later, but I would think that they have records (the paper or computer kind) and people who would keep up with this.

Sure, I am nitpicking, but I like accurate information out there. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they would do more with the Gaither Vocal Band too (a reunion comes to mind) as well as reissuing old GVB and trio stuff on DVD as well as Praise Gatherings. There was supposed to be a video released that had some songs from the GVB OneX1 and maybe some trio songs too. I think it had four songs by the GVB (going strictly by memory.) It seems like Fools For Lesser Things, Look Up Lamb Of God (maybe) and one other. I would love to find that, but have not.</p>
<p>I also hate the choices sometimes they make as far as Gaither Homecoming accompaniment tracks released. They overlook better songs, more popular songs, and what I think would sell better in favor of songs published by Gaithers company such as God Loves New York City, New York City Have We Got A Song For You etc. I mean, other than directly after 09/11 and by New Yorkers themselves, just how many would buy and sing this in church? There are other examples. Gaither is a great businessman, but I can&#8217;t understand some of these decisions although he doesn&#8217;t need me telling him how to be successful. To me though, it seems that selling 3 times as much tracks at say 95% profit beats getting the whole pie, but only selling 1/3. </p>
<p>Now, I want to say I admire Bill, love a lot of his music and know he has done great things. He also has helped several and seems to love doing so often putting their success over his as far as featuring the stronger singers (even though he knows they all succeed when one wins.) Other examples are in encouraging Sandi Patty, Michael English etc. to further their solo careers instead of selfishly hanging on because they helped him be more successful. That is selfless.</p>
<p>One thing I don&#8217;t like though, is misinformation out there. Bill himself claims the GVB started a year later than they did. The proof is a live album the year before by the Gaither Trio (Live Across America) that has the GVB (but not named) doing &#8220;First Day In Heaven&#8221; much as described in their history. I understand that he has a bad memory and is more concerned in the now and later, but I would think that they have records (the paper or computer kind) and people who would keep up with this.</p>
<p>Sure, I am nitpicking, but I like accurate information out there. <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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