Comments on: On Legacy 5

By: quartet-man

quartet-man — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:48:42 +0000

I always heard that prell concentrate causes someone to go from flat to fluffy.

By: matthew

matthew — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:38:18 +0000

I knew he was flat because several seconds prior, Gerald W. played the opening chord. Then Jason started the acapella solo. The first interval was a major 3rd. It was a quiet time in the program, no instruments, etc, so the “flat-ness” was obvious to me. I don’t have perfect pitch, but just prior, Gerald played the chord.
I’ve heard other singers go flat too. Even Glen Payne and George Younce. We are all human. However, Jason’s solo was so exposed, and it wasn’t a difficult interval…..if ever there was a time to nail the major 3rd, it was then!!
As I said, I don’t have perfect pitch. My problem is that I tend to go sharp a semi-tone, and singing acappella with a group, I can tend to pull them up. Once we’ve drifted into the new key, we stay there……

By: wackythinker

wackythinker — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:14:04 +0000

Matthew — If Jason’s solo was acapella, how can you be sure he was flat? How do you know what key he was supposed to be singing in? Or are you saying he WENT flat, as he went along? Now that’s a different story. And what was the situation? Was the stage extremely hot, under the spotlights? Was there something going on in the audience, or the back of the auditorium, or in the sound system that distracted his attention away from his concentration on pitch?

And if we got rid of all the sg artists who EVER sing flat, we probably wouldn’t have many people left. A large percentage of excellent singers occaisionally sing a note flat once in a while. I’d be willing to bet you have, a time or two, as well.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:32:30 +0000

Wayne Waldroup needs to rethink his message. If Matthew was courteous enough to post a followup message I consider to be thoughtful and classy, Mr. Waldroup should do the same.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I’d say Mr. Waldroup should develop thicker skin. ALL of us have been the subject of negative opinions in our respective careers, and we still have to get up the next morning and start a new day. As Joyce Meyer has pointed out, ‘We stand because Jesus holds us up.’.

I have no opinion to offer one way or the other on Jason Waldroup or anyone else connected to GV. But I think there are more constructive ways the elder Waldroup can be protective of his son and allow the transition for GV to take place smoothly for everyone.

By: matthew

matthew — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:00:57 +0000

To Mr. Wayne Waldroup,
First of all, it was not my intention to offend anybody or their parents. I understand the instinct to protect children and family from critique. At the same time, I don’t quite agree with your assessment of me as a jerk.
Where I am coming from is that I have studied music, theory, voice, etc. Part of graduating with degrees in music is performance appraisal. That’s part of the turf. Not every prof I had was kind. Dealing with criticism is something we all have to do.
I have sung in my own local group, and watched/enjoyed countless concerts of the Cathedrals, Gold City, Kingsmen, Singing Americans, Stamps, etc. I have a certain expectation when I go to a concert. Having bought numerous tickets for the L5/GV concert, I feel that gives me the right to provide feedback. I wanted to enjoy GV’s performance, which I did. I was pointing out what I thought was less than stellar. Certainly in your son’s profession, he has had both positive and negative criticism….part of being in the public eye.
I did state that I “perceived” your son to be arrogant. I didn’t say he “was” arrogant. When I approached the record table, I didn’t go to complain. I went to talk, have a nice conversation…..I didn’t feel that objective was met.
I am a long time SG fan, and that was the first time I saw GV. As I stated originally, they were polished. Their overall sound was good. I’m glad to have added them to my list of groups I’ve heard. As a tenor myself, I always pay particular attention to that voice part. Perhaps I shouldn’t, but I do. I hold no ill feelings towards anybody, and I wish you and your family well in the coming days of transition and change.

By: Aaron Swain

Aaron Swain — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:46:54 +0000

#39: Awesome post, man.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:19:46 +0000

I’ve had the great oppritunity to hear GV many times over the years - and hearing them is one thing… these guys are “Everyday People” - it’s not just some cliche’ Daywind came up with to promote them in a new light… but these guys are God loving, good singing, PEOPLE LOVING! people and for that they all will “well done my good and faithful servant…”
as for Jason leaving… wow… I was totally shocked but at the same time- this is a young guy who stepped out in faith some 13 years ago following what the Lord had planned for his life - I wish I could have been there when he sang “Victory In Jesus” in that stair well for his audition although I would have only been 6 years old This guy has been nothing but nice and kind everytime I met him… of course I was nothing but nice and kind to him… HINT HINT-
Mr. Wayne- thank you for your post it nice to hear from someone who actually knows what’s going on… telll Jason that the MAJORITY of people out there love and support him 100% as they should.
Blessings.

By: Wayne Waldroup

Wayne Waldroup — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:57:12 +0000

reponse to Matthew

What group is it that you sing with?
Or is your calling just to citicise others, why don’t you do something positive for the Lord other than criticise those that have sacraficed their lives and time away from their families to have to put up with jerks like you coming to the table to complain!! Did you have enough courage to say something to their face or just behind their backs?
Signed ,
Jasons Dad in Morristown

By: tater1955

tater1955 — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:59:19 +0000

Absolutely

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By: nashville ear

nashville ear — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:45:11 +0000

do you seriously enjoy the tone of that tenor singer? i’ll stand by my statement - like fingernails on a chalk board.

By: tater1955

tater1955 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:18:57 +0000

Nashville ear you must me on drugs to mak these comments LOL!!! . Now we’re all different and have different tastes, I realize that, but, when I listen to them I hear no blend, i only hear 4 distinct parts. the tonality and placement of their voices just does not match. the tenor singer is liks finger nails on a chalkboard. Scott Fowler was much better on baritone with the Cats. The bass singer is pretty good, but again, the blend is not there for me. the baritone is forgettable.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:50:16 +0000

Re: #33

“Ultimately L5 doesn’t make a lot of use of theoretical Cathedral heritage to promote itself - ironically I think Signature Sound, the more talented and (maybe) more successful group has been more guilty of this than L5.”

Sometimes I thought that George Younce was a member of SS for as often as Ernie would mention him. Now it’s turned into Bill Gaither namedropping.
SS “More talented”? Debatable. More marketed.

By: nashville ear

nashville ear — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:19:03 +0000

i may be in the minority here, but that’s never stopped me before so here goes - L5 is just “ok” to my ear. Now we’re all different and have different tastes, I realize that, but, when I listen to them I hear no blend, i only hear 4 distinct parts. the tonality and placement of their voices just does not match. the tenor singer is liks finger nails on a chalkboard. Scott Fowler was much better on baritone with the Cats. The bass singer is pretty good, but again, the blend is not there for me. the baritone is forgettable.

In all fairness, I have never attended a full concert - have no reason to or interest in doing so. I’ve only heard them at NQC. I do not own any of there CD’s save one “Live in Music City.” After listening to it i was inspired not to buy another one.

I agree on one thing - Tim Parton was the bet choice to replace Roger at piano. Tim is the most complimentary accompanist in the field. His personality is more humble than most with his ability. If L5 had hired a flashy, showy, extrovert it would have seemed like he was trying too hard to “be the new Roger.” Parton on the other hand can just do his thing and people will appreciate his talent and genuineness.

L5 is well managed, Fowler is a good businessman. The Labor Day and Memorial Day events at Opryland have been a huge success. I’m sure the group will continue and will probably be around a long time.

I will be interested to see what the new afformentioned “4-guys-and-a-piano” project sounds like. Maybe it will change my overall lack of enthusiasm about L5.

By: RDB

RDB — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:23:55 +0000

L5 doesn’t compare very strongly against other groups when you go part by part - lead, tenor etc you typically will see Signature Sound or Gold City having the more talented pieces. However a quartet needs to be more than just an accumulation of parts. I think with experience L5 is knowledgeable about how to make the most of what they’ve got. Talent is one piece of the puzzle but stability of group lineup doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand with talent - that requires the right personalities and a sufficient love for what you’re doing to stick it out even though you might make more money elsewhere.

I think the point that the Cathedrals weren’t as perfect as some people remember is well taken. Ultimately L5 doesn’t make a lot of use of theoretical Cathedral heritage to promote itself - ironically I think Signature Sound, the more talented and (maybe) more successful group has been more guilty of this than L5.