Comments on: How the sausage is made http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Wed, 23 May 2012 11:21:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: James http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-460465 James Mon, 26 May 2008 01:30:07 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-460465 Harry, I never mentioned anything about how much money Ernie makes. I could care less and neither should you. They are singing to large crowds every single time they go out on stage. They were the first group to have a #1 song on 4 different charts at the same time. I didn't see anything wrong with the video. Tim Duncan was goofing around during the scandalous hip movements. If you ever actually see them in person, you will see they actually don't have choreography during every song. More often than not, they don't. You are going to stick by your story no matter what. I have never seen them wearing lavender eye shadow. I am willing to say that the Statesmen are one of your all-time favorite quartets. I like them too. By the way, in case you were wondering, I am 30 years of age. So, I can and do appreciate older groups. However, the same things being said about EHSS were said about the Statesmen. I'm not saying EHSS are the Statesmen, but you can compare the two. There was as much vitriol and hatred for the Statesmen as there is for EHSS and I don't get it. The Dove Brothers have choreography too. How about them? Why are they not criticized in the same manner? I get tired of the "Christian" community eating their own. When someone comes along and has some success, we have to tear them down. Christians have a hard enough time fighting Satan, we don't need to make Satan's job easier by helping him out attacking other Christians. All of the EHSS haters need to get a life and get over it. The Lord is using this group to reach people who otherwise would not give Southern Gospel music the time of day. I have a friend who was saved as the result of listening to and watching EHSS. For what you are condemning, the Lord is blessing. Perhaps I should get a life too and stop responding to garbage and nonsense. Harry, I never mentioned anything about how much money Ernie makes. I could care less and neither should you. They are singing to large crowds every single time they go out on stage. They were the first group to have a #1 song on 4 different charts at the same time.

I didn’t see anything wrong with the video. Tim Duncan was goofing around during the scandalous hip movements. If you ever actually see them in person, you will see they actually don’t have choreography during every song. More often than not, they don’t.

You are going to stick by your story no matter what. I have never seen them wearing lavender eye shadow.

I am willing to say that the Statesmen are one of your all-time favorite quartets. I like them too. By the way, in case you were wondering, I am 30 years of age. So, I can and do appreciate older groups. However, the same things being said about EHSS were said about the Statesmen. I’m not saying EHSS are the Statesmen, but you can compare the two. There was as much vitriol and hatred for the Statesmen as there is for EHSS and I don’t get it.

The Dove Brothers have choreography too. How about them? Why are they not criticized in the same manner?

I get tired of the “Christian” community eating their own. When someone comes along and has some success, we have to tear them down. Christians have a hard enough time fighting Satan, we don’t need to make Satan’s job easier by helping him out attacking other Christians.

All of the EHSS haters need to get a life and get over it. The Lord is using this group to reach people who otherwise would not give Southern Gospel music the time of day. I have a friend who was saved as the result of listening to and watching EHSS. For what you are condemning, the Lord is blessing.

Perhaps I should get a life too and stop responding to garbage and nonsense.

]]> By: Harry Peters http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-458202 Harry Peters Sun, 25 May 2008 00:50:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-458202 James...I could care less how much money Ernie earns. The video that started this thread is out of line and over the top for Southern Gospel Music purists. I had SSQ at my church on their very first tour back in the days he was trying to be a rock star and be sponsored by Sharpie. I fed all of them. Under florescent lights, it was obvious that there was foundation makeup and a shade of lavender eye shadow. As far as bumping and grinding and waving your hands at the same place in every song goes....by the way, it's called choreography...it's all theatre, acting and being staged. All of that is fine, just don't pass it off as ministry. Call it what it is. Ernie making a buck! James…I could care less how much money Ernie earns. The video that started this thread is out of line and over the top for Southern Gospel Music purists. I had SSQ at my church on their very first tour back in the days he was trying to be a rock star and be sponsored by Sharpie. I fed all of them. Under florescent lights, it was obvious that there was foundation makeup and a shade of lavender eye shadow. As far as bumping and grinding and waving your hands at the same place in every song goes….by the way, it’s called choreography…it’s all theatre, acting and being staged. All of that is fine, just don’t pass it off as ministry. Call it what it is. Ernie making a buck!

]]> By: James http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-456077 James Sat, 24 May 2008 01:16:30 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-456077 I would like to know when all of you experts have seen Ernie Haase wear make-up other than on videos? On the videos, they wear stage make-up b/c of the lights. I have seen them multiple times in concert and have met and talked with them and have never seen them in make-up. I also have never seen Ernie bump and grind. I think some of you are making things up b/c of your hatred for EHSS and their success. I would like to know when all of you experts have seen Ernie Haase wear make-up other than on videos? On the videos, they wear stage make-up b/c of the lights. I have seen them multiple times in concert and have met and talked with them and have never seen them in make-up. I also have never seen Ernie bump and grind. I think some of you are making things up b/c of your hatred for EHSS and their success.

]]> By: Harry Peters http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-454785 Harry Peters Fri, 23 May 2008 10:11:16 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-454785 #126 SGM Fan: I miss the days you are talking about too. I didn't much care for Elvis bumping and grinding and was never an Elvis fan. If I was going to pay someone to see it, I'd rather have paid Elvis, doing it solely for his own benefit than Ernie who presents himself to be bumping and grinding for Jesus. Elvis wore a scarf, but didn't use Foundation make-up and eye shadow. He didn't arch his eyebrows, either. I guess old Ernie is what they call one of those "metro-sexuals," and THAT's probably why he knows "how sausage is made." #126 SGM Fan: I miss the days you are talking about too. I didn’t much care for Elvis bumping and grinding and was never an Elvis fan. If I was going to pay someone to see it, I’d rather have paid Elvis, doing it solely for his own benefit than Ernie who presents himself to be bumping and grinding for Jesus. Elvis wore a scarf, but didn’t use Foundation make-up and eye shadow. He didn’t arch his eyebrows, either. I guess old Ernie is what they call one of those “metro-sexuals,” and THAT’s probably why he knows “how sausage is made.”

]]> By: SGM FAN http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-440707 SGM FAN Fri, 16 May 2008 10:35:34 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-440707 Does anyone else miss the days when 4 men could walk out on the stage (sometimes around a single microphone) and rely on their own God-given talent? To be sure, George, Glenn with their Cathedrals over the course of many years were ahead of their times in many ways, utilizing strings and brass and the London Symphony Orchestra. However, until later years, when voices began to fail from age, they could walk out and actually sing. Has anyone besides me ever wondered who sings bass in the tracks for Bill Gaither? I could swear it used to be George Younce's voice in the mix. Bill is a baritone...and barely that. Certainly not a bass. I've asked several prominent professional quartet men, "who sings bass for Bill, now that George is gone?" I always get the same reaction. A knowing smile and no comment or denial. All this to say that using a lot of the contemporary gimmicks and tricks of the trade have reduced SGM from a pure, unique art form to something that is less than honest. Does anyone else miss the days when 4 men could walk out on the stage (sometimes around a single microphone) and rely on their own God-given talent?

To be sure, George, Glenn with their Cathedrals over the course of many years were ahead of their times in many ways, utilizing strings and brass and the London Symphony Orchestra. However, until later years, when voices began to fail from age, they could walk out and actually sing.

Has anyone besides me ever wondered who sings bass in the tracks for Bill Gaither? I could swear it used to be George Younce’s voice in the mix. Bill is a baritone…and barely that. Certainly not a bass.

I’ve asked several prominent professional quartet men, “who sings bass for Bill, now that George is gone?” I always get the same reaction. A knowing smile and no comment or denial.

All this to say that using a lot of the contemporary gimmicks and tricks of the trade have reduced SGM from a pure, unique art form to something that is less than honest.

]]> By: Appalled http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439784 Appalled Thu, 15 May 2008 03:03:37 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439784 Wow! First of all, I have to say that I have never come to a site like this and I am absolutely appalled. It makes me sad that "Christian" people have gathered together on a site to say very hateful things about some really great guys. The thing is that I know them personally--their beliefs, their "agendas" and their hearts. They do believe what they sing and enjoy doing it. All I have to say is that I feel sorry for MOST of you! Wow! First of all, I have to say that I have never come to a site like this and I am absolutely appalled. It makes me sad that “Christian” people have gathered together on a site to say very hateful things about some really great guys. The thing is that I know them personally–their beliefs, their “agendas” and their hearts. They do believe what they sing and enjoy doing it. All I have to say is that I feel sorry for MOST of you!

]]> By: Dewey Cox http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439689 Dewey Cox Thu, 15 May 2008 01:46:08 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439689 DING DING DING TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON BOB! DING DING DING TELL HIM WHAT HE’S WON BOB!

]]> By: Dewey Cox http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439683 Dewey Cox Thu, 15 May 2008 01:42:04 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-439683 Hey big Rod, why so harsh? If you think they are all queer, why so intrigued. Sounds like you might be dealing with some issues yourself (queer) If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then your probably a duck. I am a middle aged guy with a family of my own. I have seen these guys in concert at least 10 times. Never have I walked away questioning their motives. I know they work hard at what they do and obviously care what they look like . That doesn't by any standard make them gay. It only means they are professionals. Maybe some others should take a look to see how it should be done. Maybe its good they don't. EHSS will just stand out even more. ROD YOU HAVE NO CLUE! Hey big Rod, why so harsh? If you think they are all queer, why so intrigued. Sounds like you might be dealing with some issues yourself (queer) If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then your probably a duck.
I am a middle aged guy with a family of my own.
I have seen these guys in concert at least 10 times. Never have I walked away questioning their motives. I know they work hard at what they do and obviously care what they look like . That doesn’t by any standard make them gay. It only means they are professionals. Maybe some others should take a look to see how it should be done. Maybe its good they don’t. EHSS will just stand out even more. ROD YOU HAVE NO CLUE!

]]> By: Leebob http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-437586 Leebob Tue, 13 May 2008 22:10:45 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-437586 Not hard to sound bad with all those stacks now is it? There is no way, with al the dancing that you are going to get quality sound. Go back to youtube and the practice and I rest my case. They are average sounding at best without the stacks. Not hard to sound bad with all those stacks now is it? There is no way, with al the dancing that you are going to get quality sound. Go back to youtube and the practice and I rest my case. They are average sounding at best without the stacks.

]]> By: Chuck Stevens http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-437161 Chuck Stevens Tue, 13 May 2008 16:55:48 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-437161 Saw Ernie and the guys in Tulsa Saturday night with Gaither and Wayne Haun was indeed at the piano. The were realy solid. I could do without the dancing most of the time, but they were right on vocaly. Vocal Band was top notch that night as well. Bill seemed to be having a great time on stage. I like their new stage setup. Saw Ernie and the guys in Tulsa Saturday night with Gaither and Wayne Haun was indeed at the piano. The were realy solid. I could do without the dancing most of the time, but they were right on vocaly. Vocal Band was top notch that night as well. Bill seemed to be having a great time on stage. I like their new stage setup.

]]> By: sockpuppet http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-435897 sockpuppet Mon, 12 May 2008 22:29:55 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-435897 #119, Yes 250,000 -- them and the Hoppers #119,
Yes 250,000 — them and the Hoppers

]]> By: reeksofjealousy http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-435753 reeksofjealousy Mon, 12 May 2008 21:18:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-435753 People... you do realize that this is only stage makeup? All kinds of SG artist use it. Not just EHSSQ. The lights and production that are used for their concerts and the Homecoming shows call for that type of thing. And yes, they travel with their own lighting system, so it's not like they are going down to the First Baptist of Nowhere wearing makeup, nor are the guys sharing the bathroom mirror with their wives making sure they have their makeup on right before they take them out on a date. This kind of nit-picky thing just reeks of jealousy. Same as with the clothes, hair, whatever. People, if you don't like it, don't go. Just remember, there will be 250,000 other people who will show up and like it just fine. People… you do realize that this is only stage makeup? All kinds of SG artist use it. Not just EHSSQ. The lights and production that are used for their concerts and the Homecoming shows call for that type of thing. And yes, they travel with their own lighting system, so it’s not like they are going down to the First Baptist of Nowhere wearing makeup, nor are the guys sharing the bathroom mirror with their wives making sure they have their makeup on right before they take them out on a date. This kind of nit-picky thing just reeks of jealousy. Same as with the clothes, hair, whatever. People, if you don’t like it, don’t go. Just remember, there will be 250,000 other people who will show up and like it just fine.

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433890 Rod Sun, 11 May 2008 05:59:57 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433890 They are pretty though...Ok It's late and I'm bored. WWJDS...What would JD Say. They are pretty though…Ok It’s late and I’m bored. WWJDS…What would JD Say.

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433888 Rod Sun, 11 May 2008 05:57:42 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433888 OK, Ok...I am not accusing them of being Gay. Still MAKEUP??? Their wives must be proud...Probably all the way to the bank. Well, maybe Ernies Bank. :) OK, Ok…I am not accusing them of being Gay. Still MAKEUP??? Their wives must be proud…Probably all the way to the bank. Well, maybe Ernies Bank. :)

]]> By: Rod http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433887 Rod Sun, 11 May 2008 05:55:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/04/30/how-the-sausage-is-made/#comment-433887 Let me clarify something since I obviously opened a can of worms on the homosexual agenda comment and ruffled John Masters feathers with the makeup comment...First of all I was kidding about the Homo agenda thing although they do promote that lifestyle (AE, Hollister, Etc.) and if you are on TV I do understand the makeup thing. However I have seen them in regular concerts and in street clothes in Makeup and that my friend to me is QUEER...You don't like it tough. If it LOOKS like a duck, WALKS like a duck, It's probably a DUCK… Ding, ding, ding...Tell them what they've won Bob. And yes I am one of those "people" that still thinks homosexuality is an abomination (so does God) and a choice. Let me clarify something since I obviously opened a can of worms on the homosexual agenda comment and ruffled John Masters feathers with the makeup comment…First of all I was kidding about the Homo agenda thing although they do promote that lifestyle (AE, Hollister, Etc.) and if you are on TV I do understand the makeup thing. However I have seen them in regular concerts and in street clothes in Makeup and that my friend to me is QUEER…You don’t like it tough. If it LOOKS like a duck, WALKS like a duck, It’s probably a DUCK… Ding, ding, ding…Tell them what they’ve won Bob. And yes I am one of those “people” that still thinks homosexuality is an abomination (so does God) and a choice.

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