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	<title>Comments on: Really: Park the bus, permanently</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Park the Bus: Keeping SG Afloat &#124; SouthernGospelBlog.com</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-1472134</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Park the Bus: Keeping SG Afloat &#124; SouthernGospelBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rising gas prices lead some to wonder whether the solution is throwing in the towel and parking the bus permanently. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Rising gas prices lead some to wonder whether the solution is throwing in the towel and parking the bus permanently. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rita Stacy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-481818</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-481818</guid>
		<description>Mark Forester---You have arrived, to
get such a nasty post!!!!! We love ya
in Metamora,IN!!!! See ya same time
this year as always Nov 16!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Forester&#8212;You have arrived, to<br />
get such a nasty post!!!!! We love ya<br />
in Metamora,IN!!!! See ya same time<br />
this year as always Nov 16!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Blueboy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-477452</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-477452</guid>
		<description>In response to Comment 1, I do not think big name groups like DBQ pay the record labels to produce a project like some local groups do. I think most labels for the big name groups pay the cost to produce the album and then sell the product to the group at a low wholesale price, which the group then in turn marks up to sell across the product table to their fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Comment 1, I do not think big name groups like DBQ pay the record labels to produce a project like some local groups do. I think most labels for the big name groups pay the cost to produce the album and then sell the product to the group at a low wholesale price, which the group then in turn marks up to sell across the product table to their fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Definitely Not Aaron</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-475212</link>
		<dc:creator>Definitely Not Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-475212</guid>
		<description>To sockpuppet:

Anonymity is fine until you bring someone’s family into it.  Then it IS cowardly.  "Tweaking" someone as you call it is a ton of fun, and I do it all the time without my real name.  But there is a difference between a tweak and an attack.  Requesting someone muster up the man grapes to own an attack isn’t machismo, it’s just good fun…or tweaking.  Ok when you do it, but not when I do it?  For shame, my furry little friend.

By the way, no one looks at my website...ever.  I only had about 25 hits in the whole month of May, and I doubt I'll get any off this post.

I’m out.  Y’all take care.

Sincerely,

Definitely Not Aaron Fox
But if I were, I’d still be better than Mark
Nowhere near Dallas, Texas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sockpuppet:</p>
<p>Anonymity is fine until you bring someone’s family into it.  Then it IS cowardly.  &#8220;Tweaking&#8221; someone as you call it is a ton of fun, and I do it all the time without my real name.  But there is a difference between a tweak and an attack.  Requesting someone muster up the man grapes to own an attack isn’t machismo, it’s just good fun…or tweaking.  Ok when you do it, but not when I do it?  For shame, my furry little friend.</p>
<p>By the way, no one looks at my website&#8230;ever.  I only had about 25 hits in the whole month of May, and I doubt I&#8217;ll get any off this post.</p>
<p>I’m out.  Y’all take care.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Definitely Not Aaron Fox<br />
But if I were, I’d still be better than Mark<br />
Nowhere near Dallas, Texas</p>
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		<title>By: sockpuppet</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-474356</link>
		<dc:creator>sockpuppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-474356</guid>
		<description>Please spare me the macho posturing.  
This site has a long (founding member, anyone?) tradition in support of anonymity (the concept, not the recent poster).  It's not about cowardice, and in many cases it IS about humility.  (if gc revealed true identity, 43% of readers would fall down in worship)  Face it, many that post here using their full name and hyperlink are hoping against hope that somehow, some way, of all the thousands of hits this site gets everyday, someone will click your link and double your hits for the week.
Just admit that it is self interest, not your imaginary "stones" that causes you to use your "genuine monicker"
There's no shame in self aggrandizement, I use MY real name when I post something that benefits me, but when I'm just tweaking y'all, "sockpuppet" suits me to a "T"
Happy weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please spare me the macho posturing.<br />
This site has a long (founding member, anyone?) tradition in support of anonymity (the concept, not the recent poster).  It&#8217;s not about cowardice, and in many cases it IS about humility.  (if gc revealed true identity, 43% of readers would fall down in worship)  Face it, many that post here using their full name and hyperlink are hoping against hope that somehow, some way, of all the thousands of hits this site gets everyday, someone will click your link and double your hits for the week.<br />
Just admit that it is self interest, not your imaginary &#8220;stones&#8221; that causes you to use your &#8220;genuine monicker&#8221;<br />
There&#8217;s no shame in self aggrandizement, I use MY real name when I post something that benefits me, but when I&#8217;m just tweaking y&#8217;all, &#8220;sockpuppet&#8221; suits me to a &#8220;T&#8221;<br />
Happy weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Gwizdala</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-473156</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Gwizdala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-473156</guid>
		<description>RE: Mark Forester, it appears that Smarter than you has caused Mark to get some mileage out of that post ! Some people say that "there is no such thing as "bad" publicity" ! Mark needs no defending, but let me just say that I am proud to call Mark Forester my friend. Anyone who will look into his family ministry(his ministry includes his wife and son) will see just how busy Mark is. He does far more dates than I do. So he must be doing something right. He sells more product than I do, so people must continue to enjoy his Gospel music. Mark is a straight shooter when it comes to what he believes. I've used Mark Forester as a sounding board when I have had questions regarding making business decisions in my music ministry. Mark, keep on "keeping on" and doing what you and your family were called to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Mark Forester, it appears that Smarter than you has caused Mark to get some mileage out of that post ! Some people say that &#8220;there is no such thing as &#8220;bad&#8221; publicity&#8221; ! Mark needs no defending, but let me just say that I am proud to call Mark Forester my friend. Anyone who will look into his family ministry(his ministry includes his wife and son) will see just how busy Mark is. He does far more dates than I do. So he must be doing something right. He sells more product than I do, so people must continue to enjoy his Gospel music. Mark is a straight shooter when it comes to what he believes. I&#8217;ve used Mark Forester as a sounding board when I have had questions regarding making business decisions in my music ministry. Mark, keep on &#8220;keeping on&#8221; and doing what you and your family were called to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Fox</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-473131</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-473131</guid>
		<description>I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read post #11 from “Smarter than you!” until I saw that this not-so-witty little feller decided not to post his name.  Then it wasn’t funny anymore.  I like to bust on Mark as much as the next guy, but sheesh, if you are going to write it, you should at least be man enough to own it!  

Mark Forester and I have been friends since grade school, and I’ve always been jealous of his success in Gospel Music.  NOTE: The first person who tells me jealousy is a sin is going to win the “Captain Obvious” award, so save the faux religious speak for someone who cares.  I was (and still am…a little) jealous and regretful that I took the corporate route while he successfully followed through with our childhood aspirations. 

Anyhoo, I suspect “Smarter than you!” is a no-talent local quartet wannabe who drags $40,000 worth of equipment around in an old Ford Pinto (that he childishly referrers to as “the bus”) and sets it up in a 10-seat auditorium while dressed like a 1997 version of Ernie Haase.  To hide behind a computer like a preteen girl and post something so vile without a name shows a lack of ethics and statesmanship that emphasizes this guy’s risibly low IQ as well as woeful lack of knowledge of Mark’s ministry.  I don’t claim to have a ministry, so I’m free to sling it like I see it…

I’m not going to defend Mark; he’s a grown man and can take care of himself.  I’m simply writing to call out “Smarter than you!” and challenge him to man up, post again and own these ridiculous comments.    

Mark, I was surprised to see that you posted an apology.  To be side-swiped in a public forum by an anonymous coward warranted your original response!  You’re a much better Christian than I am, because I would have relied on my “saved by grace” clause to light a fire under this moron…and repent later, of course.

Well, that’s a wrap for me.  I can’t believe I am writing a post praising Mark Forester.  I prefer my modus operandi of taking cheap shots at him…out of a curious mixture of admiration, friendship and the aforementioned jealousy of course!

Aaron Fox
Better baritone than Mark
Dallas, Texas
aaron@sogotunes.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read post #11 from “Smarter than you!” until I saw that this not-so-witty little feller decided not to post his name.  Then it wasn’t funny anymore.  I like to bust on Mark as much as the next guy, but sheesh, if you are going to write it, you should at least be man enough to own it!  </p>
<p>Mark Forester and I have been friends since grade school, and I’ve always been jealous of his success in Gospel Music.  NOTE: The first person who tells me jealousy is a sin is going to win the “Captain Obvious” award, so save the faux religious speak for someone who cares.  I was (and still am…a little) jealous and regretful that I took the corporate route while he successfully followed through with our childhood aspirations. </p>
<p>Anyhoo, I suspect “Smarter than you!” is a no-talent local quartet wannabe who drags $40,000 worth of equipment around in an old Ford Pinto (that he childishly referrers to as “the bus”) and sets it up in a 10-seat auditorium while dressed like a 1997 version of Ernie Haase.  To hide behind a computer like a preteen girl and post something so vile without a name shows a lack of ethics and statesmanship that emphasizes this guy’s risibly low IQ as well as woeful lack of knowledge of Mark’s ministry.  I don’t claim to have a ministry, so I’m free to sling it like I see it…</p>
<p>I’m not going to defend Mark; he’s a grown man and can take care of himself.  I’m simply writing to call out “Smarter than you!” and challenge him to man up, post again and own these ridiculous comments.    </p>
<p>Mark, I was surprised to see that you posted an apology.  To be side-swiped in a public forum by an anonymous coward warranted your original response!  You’re a much better Christian than I am, because I would have relied on my “saved by grace” clause to light a fire under this moron…and repent later, of course.</p>
<p>Well, that’s a wrap for me.  I can’t believe I am writing a post praising Mark Forester.  I prefer my modus operandi of taking cheap shots at him…out of a curious mixture of admiration, friendship and the aforementioned jealousy of course!</p>
<p>Aaron Fox<br />
Better baritone than Mark<br />
Dallas, Texas<br />
<a href="mailto:aaron@sogotunes.com">aaron@sogotunes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: mark forester</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471499</link>
		<dc:creator>mark forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471499</guid>
		<description>MIke:

I read the book Simple Church....good book that can apply to many areas of life. 

Yeah, I wished I was calmer on my response but it was shocking to see myself singled out for saying what everyone else was saying.

The thing about SG is that there are so many people who have great ministries, make a living, and are very busy ....but they are unknown in the "industry." As I said , choose not to play the industry game and you can actually do well.

Whoever "smartr than you" is must have an axe to grind with me. I never knew I had an enemy so maybe he should come to me so we could work (whatever it is) out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIke:</p>
<p>I read the book Simple Church&#8230;.good book that can apply to many areas of life. </p>
<p>Yeah, I wished I was calmer on my response but it was shocking to see myself singled out for saying what everyone else was saying.</p>
<p>The thing about SG is that there are so many people who have great ministries, make a living, and are very busy &#8230;.but they are unknown in the &#8220;industry.&#8221; As I said , choose not to play the industry game and you can actually do well.</p>
<p>Whoever &#8220;smartr than you&#8221; is must have an axe to grind with me. I never knew I had an enemy so maybe he should come to me so we could work (whatever it is) out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McIlwain</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471415</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McIlwain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471415</guid>
		<description>Mark #16,
Don't sweat it, man.  Apology accepted.  I was wondering how to respond to the heckler myself, but figured that what he or she had to say wasn't worth a response.  Keep serving the Lord and don't let the naysayers get you down.

I attended a Simple Church conference that I think promotes some principles that would help SG or, for that matter, any ministry.  Keep in mind what your purpose is and your process for getting there, then let others talk you into adding other things to make your ministry "go."  The bus illustration is one that helps explain this concept.  Get a bus if you need it, but if it is not necessary to help you do your job then ditch it.  Many churches are cutting ministries that duplicate other ministries and are beginning to see overall growth because they have regained their focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark #16,<br />
Don&#8217;t sweat it, man.  Apology accepted.  I was wondering how to respond to the heckler myself, but figured that what he or she had to say wasn&#8217;t worth a response.  Keep serving the Lord and don&#8217;t let the naysayers get you down.</p>
<p>I attended a Simple Church conference that I think promotes some principles that would help SG or, for that matter, any ministry.  Keep in mind what your purpose is and your process for getting there, then let others talk you into adding other things to make your ministry &#8220;go.&#8221;  The bus illustration is one that helps explain this concept.  Get a bus if you need it, but if it is not necessary to help you do your job then ditch it.  Many churches are cutting ministries that duplicate other ministries and are beginning to see overall growth because they have regained their focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471414</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471414</guid>
		<description>Mark-

Good that you apologized...but, I was stunned at the attack that prompted your response. I know of none of the particulars, and know neither of you guys...but what "smarter than you" said about you, and how it was said, was pretty rough and unkind.

Neat you apologized. But I think if we were honest, most of us would have responded exactly as you did...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>Good that you apologized&#8230;but, I was stunned at the attack that prompted your response. I know of none of the particulars, and know neither of you guys&#8230;but what &#8220;smarter than you&#8221; said about you, and how it was said, was pretty rough and unkind.</p>
<p>Neat you apologized. But I think if we were honest, most of us would have responded exactly as you did&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mark forester</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471254</link>
		<dc:creator>mark forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471254</guid>
		<description>Ok...I should not have responded that way. Wasn't the most Christian thing I've done today. I just don't like it when people go off for no reason and then don't sign their name. I should not have felt the need to justify my ministry or prove something. 

Sorry to everyone else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;I should not have responded that way. Wasn&#8217;t the most Christian thing I&#8217;ve done today. I just don&#8217;t like it when people go off for no reason and then don&#8217;t sign their name. I should not have felt the need to justify my ministry or prove something. </p>
<p>Sorry to everyone else!</p>
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		<title>By: mark forester</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471183</link>
		<dc:creator>mark forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471183</guid>
		<description>Smarter than you........

Sure whatever. If you really know me than you know we did a 13 week tour this year to states all across the south. And you can say I am not getting flats if you want , fine, whatever. I just wonder then how I have been able to be full time for 14 years and sing in 21 states across the US. Not to mention Scotland and Canada. Never said the flats were 5 grand but most of our dates our flats nonetheless.

Never claimed to be a household name. Funny how you claim to know so much about me and how I run my buisness yet you didn't have the stones to sign your name. Man up dude.

As far as being on a horse that is not plugged in.......at least my mommy does not make me wear one of those stupid training helmets like your mom does. hahahaha.

Why are you so bitter? Did we outsell you last week in concert?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smarter than you&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Sure whatever. If you really know me than you know we did a 13 week tour this year to states all across the south. And you can say I am not getting flats if you want , fine, whatever. I just wonder then how I have been able to be full time for 14 years and sing in 21 states across the US. Not to mention Scotland and Canada. Never said the flats were 5 grand but most of our dates our flats nonetheless.</p>
<p>Never claimed to be a household name. Funny how you claim to know so much about me and how I run my buisness yet you didn&#8217;t have the stones to sign your name. Man up dude.</p>
<p>As far as being on a horse that is not plugged in&#8230;&#8230;.at least my mommy does not make me wear one of those stupid training helmets like your mom does. hahahaha.</p>
<p>Why are you so bitter? Did we outsell you last week in concert?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Watson</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471113</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-471113</guid>
		<description>At this point, it certainly is about survival of the fittest. I've said for years and years that there are far too many groups trying to make it full-time to be supported. With the economy going the way it is, we're already seeing the fallout with several group disbandings and surely more to come if others who need to go the way of Ed O'Neal and park the bus. It's supply and demand and the demand hasn't gone up enough to merit the cost of the supply.

I predict now that the "top tier" of gospel music groups will begin to be a much more recognizable and smaller group. Then the quality regional groups, after a period of time, may actually see their ministries prosper because less national groups coming further away from the southeast will create more demand.

I never have really understood the "status" part of the bus thing. For many in the congregation, it actually turns them off to see the big tour bus because they figure they are only in it for the money. With a van and trailer, I think that in many places, the love offerings would go up. Sometimes we forget that humility is a very endearing quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, it certainly is about survival of the fittest. I&#8217;ve said for years and years that there are far too many groups trying to make it full-time to be supported. With the economy going the way it is, we&#8217;re already seeing the fallout with several group disbandings and surely more to come if others who need to go the way of Ed O&#8217;Neal and park the bus. It&#8217;s supply and demand and the demand hasn&#8217;t gone up enough to merit the cost of the supply.</p>
<p>I predict now that the &#8220;top tier&#8221; of gospel music groups will begin to be a much more recognizable and smaller group. Then the quality regional groups, after a period of time, may actually see their ministries prosper because less national groups coming further away from the southeast will create more demand.</p>
<p>I never have really understood the &#8220;status&#8221; part of the bus thing. For many in the congregation, it actually turns them off to see the big tour bus because they figure they are only in it for the money. With a van and trailer, I think that in many places, the love offerings would go up. Sometimes we forget that humility is a very endearing quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Peters</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-470813</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-470813</guid>
		<description>Mark, in regard to #7, you make excellent points.  I have been on my congressman and two senators for months on a weekly basis about fuel prices and all I get are excuses about today and lofty plans for tomorrow.  I'm still staying on them, though.  

In regard to the bus issue, more people should be like my friends, Crossway, when they started out.  Even after Ed Harper started booking them, they traveled in a 12 passenger van and pulled their equipment in a trailer.  The van was not even converted.  

It seems to me that a key to making it in this economy and with these fuel prices is to use a booking agent.  They can arrange dates in such a way as to maximize efficiency and minimizing travel.  I believe that even smaller groups could benefit from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, in regard to #7, you make excellent points.  I have been on my congressman and two senators for months on a weekly basis about fuel prices and all I get are excuses about today and lofty plans for tomorrow.  I&#8217;m still staying on them, though.  </p>
<p>In regard to the bus issue, more people should be like my friends, Crossway, when they started out.  Even after Ed Harper started booking them, they traveled in a 12 passenger van and pulled their equipment in a trailer.  The van was not even converted.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that a key to making it in this economy and with these fuel prices is to use a booking agent.  They can arrange dates in such a way as to maximize efficiency and minimizing travel.  I believe that even smaller groups could benefit from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Gwizdala</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/05/29/really-park-the-bus-permanently/#comment-470807</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Gwizdala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mark(#3 and #7). I'm a soloist-musician/singer in SG. I've been doing this for the past 7 years(relatively new compared to many of you). I average about 140-160 dates a year. I've NOW learned to work the majority of the year regionally(I'm in Michigan, so that means the Midwest). I average 1 or 2 NC/SC/GA tours a year and they average 12 days in length. I spend 1 month in the FL/AL areas, but that's only because I can live with my in-laws in FL while I do the "tour". I cut back from pulling a trailer to loading all my sound equipment/product in a Chevy Tahoe. Now, of course, that only leaves room for one extra person, my sound man, but even then, he is part time. I've found that I can get 400 miles to the tank(that is an extra 100 miles by NOT pulling the trailer). And even that isn't the best gas mileage. On those overnight trips, I stay at Motel 6's and Super 8's. If I feel like splurging, I stay at Comfort Inn's and Holidy Inn Express's. I remember when I attended the Steve Hurst School of Music back in 2001, Steve took us all aside and shared the "business" side of Gospel Music. Steve shared that there are VERY FEW groups in SG who TRULY NEED a bus. The most highly compensated member of any group is THE BUS. Alot of the times, it is a pride issue. If you ride in a bus, you have "arrived". It's funny(but not really) that when I talk to singers at NQC each year, how often they want to bring up in the conversation about "their bus" and "riding in style". The bottom line is THE BOTTOM LINE. If we are to continue in this ministry, we need to seriously take a look at all expenses in our respective ministries. Do I enjoy driving a Tahoe full of sound equipment and product? NO. But does it make me feel better knowing I can drive another 100 miles by not pulling a trailer especially as I drive past gas stations on the highway looking at their price signs? YES. And as MF pointed out, that's just the travel costs and issue. We could discuss the other areas of "the business" regarding the other people who want a "piece of your pie".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mark(#3 and #7). I&#8217;m a soloist-musician/singer in SG. I&#8217;ve been doing this for the past 7 years(relatively new compared to many of you). I average about 140-160 dates a year. I&#8217;ve NOW learned to work the majority of the year regionally(I&#8217;m in Michigan, so that means the Midwest). I average 1 or 2 NC/SC/GA tours a year and they average 12 days in length. I spend 1 month in the FL/AL areas, but that&#8217;s only because I can live with my in-laws in FL while I do the &#8220;tour&#8221;. I cut back from pulling a trailer to loading all my sound equipment/product in a Chevy Tahoe. Now, of course, that only leaves room for one extra person, my sound man, but even then, he is part time. I&#8217;ve found that I can get 400 miles to the tank(that is an extra 100 miles by NOT pulling the trailer). And even that isn&#8217;t the best gas mileage. On those overnight trips, I stay at Motel 6&#8217;s and Super 8&#8217;s. If I feel like splurging, I stay at Comfort Inn&#8217;s and Holidy Inn Express&#8217;s. I remember when I attended the Steve Hurst School of Music back in 2001, Steve took us all aside and shared the &#8220;business&#8221; side of Gospel Music. Steve shared that there are VERY FEW groups in SG who TRULY NEED a bus. The most highly compensated member of any group is THE BUS. Alot of the times, it is a pride issue. If you ride in a bus, you have &#8220;arrived&#8221;. It&#8217;s funny(but not really) that when I talk to singers at NQC each year, how often they want to bring up in the conversation about &#8220;their bus&#8221; and &#8220;riding in style&#8221;. The bottom line is THE BOTTOM LINE. If we are to continue in this ministry, we need to seriously take a look at all expenses in our respective ministries. Do I enjoy driving a Tahoe full of sound equipment and product? NO. But does it make me feel better knowing I can drive another 100 miles by not pulling a trailer especially as I drive past gas stations on the highway looking at their price signs? YES. And as MF pointed out, that&#8217;s just the travel costs and issue. We could discuss the other areas of &#8220;the business&#8221; regarding the other people who want a &#8220;piece of your pie&#8221;.</p>
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