Comments on: “Holy Huddles”

By: Joel Lindsey

Joel Lindsey — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:56:42 +0000

TN,

There are, oddly enough, four Joel Lindsey’s in the world, all of whom are songwriters. Weird, huh? Anyway…I’m the southern gospel songwriter and not the worship leader at The Journey. I actually have mutual friends with this other guy and they say we even look alike! But, alas, we are two different people.

By: Brian

Brian — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:45:50 +0000

I read the article that is linked above. Am I the only one who finds it interesting that they say there is no politcal agenda, no politcal talk, it should be Gospel not politics…however they make sure that all of their “non-political” talking points are made? For example, global warming, help for those infected with HIV, immigration, stem cell research and so on. The entire article is political including all of the polls cited and talks of discussions they had at the bar. The article states that the older generation of Southern Baptist have become to politcal but the entire article about the “new” Church is an article about where they stand politcally. Am I the only one scratching my head on this one?

By: TN

TN — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:52:23 +0000

There is a southern gospel connection with The Journey, however. Joel Lindsey is either currently involved at the church and/or helped plant it. I wonder if “southern gospel” songs have been “done” there and it’s just not presented as “southern gospel.” I used to work at a large church in the same area and we sang southern gospel(progressive) specials at a 90% praise and worship church and they went nuts for it. I think it’s the perception and history of the label “southern gospel.”

By: Letitia (The Damsel)

Letitia (The Damsel) — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:54:08 +0000

link
http://talithakoumfiles.blogspot.com/2008/06/journey-in-ny-times.html

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:38:15 +0000

Very nice Leebob…I may use that tid bit. I think that is an accurate account of where we are as the Church. We have shifted our focus. I am not accountable to the world, only to Christ.

Josh…me too. A little older but me too. It was a choice. My Bible says there is no wide path to Heaven, only narrow ways. The wide path leads to distruction, not my words. If that makes the Holy, inerrant Word of God a narrow minded way, then count me in. “I’ll take the ole Highway, the one called straight. It’s very narrow, all the way to the gate. It started at Calvary, thats where I got on. It’s the old, old Highway paved with Grace all the way Home.” Yeah, I stick with that one.

By: philip elwood

philip elwood — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:32:25 +0000

#13NAG. Elwood’s my surname not my forename.

By: philip elwood

philip elwood — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:19:52 +0000

#16.Doh.Fancy a cameo in the Simpsons? Classic example of demographics.

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:24:41 +0000

I’m a pentacostal who graduated from a Christian accademy.We are not fundamentalist nut cases like some might want to believe.I’m a young man(26) and I chose this way.

By: Leebob

Leebob — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:36:25 +0000

I saw a great example of what has happened to the church way back in the early 80s and it still ahs application today.

This particular evangelist placed the Bible on a stand and called for 2 volunteers. 1 was near the Bible a little to the left holding a sign depicting “the world” and the other was about 5 paces away on the other side of the Bible to the right holding a sign depicting “the church”. This depicted where the world and the church were coordinated with one another in relation to God particularly in the USA around the time of “Leave It To Beaver”. He made the stattement that the church was separated from the world but actually a little off from the Word.

Both participants took three steps to the left thus placing “the church” pretty close to the Bible and still separated from the world. Another five steps later and “the world was nearly outside the small sanctuary and “the church” was still separated from “the world”, but farther away from the Word.

His point was this: the church for too long has used “the world” as a focal point in relation to their stance with Christ and consequemtly used visible measuring sticks (i.e. dress, hairstyle, theatre attendance, etc.) to distinguish themselves from the world but kept creaping farther adn farther from the Father.

“Set your affection on things above and not on things below.” Far too long I allowed those “in the know” pre-determine how my walk with Christ should be instead of allowing the Holy Spirit direct my life. Released from those shackles my walk with Christ has flourished because I am now running the race that He has set for me, not anybody else.

I am tired of reading the judgemental attitudes of those “in the know” on here adn other places who miraculously know what God’s plan is, not only for themselves, but the rest of Christendom. Live your life, get it right, tehn worry about others.

By: thom

thom — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:32:46 +0000

to Judi #4 - thanks for the insight as to the location. It sounds like they are doing a good thing and reaching people that they may not reach otherwise.

to the rest of you: So what if the restaurant sells beer?

By: not a grammarian

not a grammarian — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:27:34 +0000

#11 (are you one of the original Blues Brothers?)
Not at all, just pointing out that even in academia, they are aware of that danger. Ravi Zacharias and Ergun Caner would be other arguments against your point with a less “homespun” argument.
My point is that you can become so cerebral about your faith that not only does it have no effect on your day to day walk, but that “information overload” can sour you on what you derisively label ’simple child like faith’ . I believe there was another very early teacher who mentioned that as well, what was his name? Seems to me they put his words in red in the back part of my Bible. According to you, it couldn’t possibly be important since it happened so long ago - we’re so much more educated than that simple carpenter, right?

By: charismatic clergy

charismatic clergy — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:24:34 +0000

God has not changed we have ! It’s hard to find a place where you can hear the truth.A sign of the times,If a preacher stands behind the pulpit and preaches the truth the deacons,council ,elders (whatever your church calls them) are ready to run him off and HIRE another preacher.The signs of power are not being seen because we(the church as a whole) don’t want a move of God we want a God that fits our ideas.

By: philip elwood

philip elwood — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:07:11 +0000

#6. That piece of homespun philosophy apply to all areas of academia does it? With that mentality God help us we would still be treating ringworm with a white swan feather dipped in iodine and building futile Towers of Babel skywards. But then again that suits alot of evangelicals,if doesn’t involve a ’simple child like faith’ then it must be Satan inspired. Sadly thus,preventing any form of progress social or otherwise. Fundamentalism + extreme right-wing evangelicalism = dark ages.

By: philip elwood

philip elwood — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:36:27 +0000

Pup for pub? Even Dr.Doug can make the occasional howler.

By: philip elwood

philip elwood — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:16:44 +0000

Not a grammarian, you were right, an other typo, bad,bad. Tends to water down ones argument. Glenn: who am i? A 47 yr old wasp. Where have i been? Lots of places. Any thing else?