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	<title>Comments on: Goodbye, Matthew Holt</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/</link>
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		<title>By: afan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-582697</link>
		<dc:creator>afan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-582697</guid>
		<description>On Thursday night, Tracy said they'd be making an announcement on Friday as to who their new piano player would be.

Troy Peach played on Thursday evening and did an admirable job. For those of you who don't know, Troy has been driving the bus and helping Jared run the sound. In fact, it looked like an impromptu moment midway through the service when he was sort of put on the spot and really came through. Libbi sang The Potter Knows The Clay and was talking after the song and just kind of out of nowhere started into the second verse of that song again with no music. Troy quickly came in and played the song out (just piano and vocals), even taking it up at the end. There were looks around by the others on stage, making it seem as if it was something totally unrehearsed. They had me believing it wasn't planned. Kudos Troy.

Katy Peach came up and sang a song they did on the Torch video (filmed two years ago at NQC). It was a Who Am I medley that she originally sang with Habedank and Waldroup, but on Thursday, she sang with Habedank and Troy Peach. She ripped it. She's too good to not be singing with somebody.

Good night for the Peach family on Thursday.

Perrys were solid as always, nothing out of the ordinary, just solid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Thursday night, Tracy said they&#8217;d be making an announcement on Friday as to who their new piano player would be.</p>
<p>Troy Peach played on Thursday evening and did an admirable job. For those of you who don&#8217;t know, Troy has been driving the bus and helping Jared run the sound. In fact, it looked like an impromptu moment midway through the service when he was sort of put on the spot and really came through. Libbi sang The Potter Knows The Clay and was talking after the song and just kind of out of nowhere started into the second verse of that song again with no music. Troy quickly came in and played the song out (just piano and vocals), even taking it up at the end. There were looks around by the others on stage, making it seem as if it was something totally unrehearsed. They had me believing it wasn&#8217;t planned. Kudos Troy.</p>
<p>Katy Peach came up and sang a song they did on the Torch video (filmed two years ago at NQC). It was a Who Am I medley that she originally sang with Habedank and Waldroup, but on Thursday, she sang with Habedank and Troy Peach. She ripped it. She&#8217;s too good to not be singing with somebody.</p>
<p>Good night for the Peach family on Thursday.</p>
<p>Perrys were solid as always, nothing out of the ordinary, just solid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570858</guid>
		<description>Wow- and now I just read that Tim Parton is leaving L5!!! Two big piano openings.... with two big groups...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow- and now I just read that Tim Parton is leaving L5!!! Two big piano openings&#8230;. with two big groups&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cynical one</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570236</link>
		<dc:creator>cynical one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570236</guid>
		<description>Yes, sometimes the excuse of leaving to spend more time with the family is just that, an excuse.  But sometimes it's very real.  

Having been a traveling saleman for several years in the past,  I can tell you with all honesty that being away from home 4 nights most weeks is not easy.  Some families can handle it for decades without it seemingly taking a toll on the relationships.  Others learn they need more regular contact than that kind of travel affords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, sometimes the excuse of leaving to spend more time with the family is just that, an excuse.  But sometimes it&#8217;s very real.  </p>
<p>Having been a traveling saleman for several years in the past,  I can tell you with all honesty that being away from home 4 nights most weeks is not easy.  Some families can handle it for decades without it seemingly taking a toll on the relationships.  Others learn they need more regular contact than that kind of travel affords.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570168</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-570168</guid>
		<description>I personally do not use lightly, any derivative of the Lord's many names. This was a very strict rule carried over from childhood. However I have known many fine Christians who when asked, had never thought of gee or jeez or golly as minced oaths at all, but just made up words. So although I still cringe when I hear them, when they are said openly by a Christian who does not typically use other vulgarities, I assume they are not intentionally cursing at all. It would be similar to hearing a two year old use a nonsense word he wasn't familiar with, which just happened to be a curse. I wouldn't consider him sinning, because it is done in ignorance. (Not stupid ignorance, just an understandable lack of education in language origins.)
If you hear someone use those words who you feel close to, why not ask how they meant it? They might actually like to know how others perceive their words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally do not use lightly, any derivative of the Lord&#8217;s many names. This was a very strict rule carried over from childhood. However I have known many fine Christians who when asked, had never thought of gee or jeez or golly as minced oaths at all, but just made up words. So although I still cringe when I hear them, when they are said openly by a Christian who does not typically use other vulgarities, I assume they are not intentionally cursing at all. It would be similar to hearing a two year old use a nonsense word he wasn&#8217;t familiar with, which just happened to be a curse. I wouldn&#8217;t consider him sinning, because it is done in ignorance. (Not stupid ignorance, just an understandable lack of education in language origins.)<br />
If you hear someone use those words who you feel close to, why not ask how they meant it? They might actually like to know how others perceive their words.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-569998</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-569998</guid>
		<description>#54 notagrammarian, love the attitude.

Speeding is not an accurate comparison unless the person's speedometer isn't working and they never knew they were speeding. Of course they still ended up speeding. However, this situation is different. Words can have more than one meaning. The meaning I used was not intended to be a replacement for His name. So, it wasn't done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 notagrammarian, love the attitude.</p>
<p>Speeding is not an accurate comparison unless the person&#8217;s speedometer isn&#8217;t working and they never knew they were speeding. Of course they still ended up speeding. However, this situation is different. Words can have more than one meaning. The meaning I used was not intended to be a replacement for His name. So, it wasn&#8217;t done.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Ann Bailey</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568114</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Ann Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568114</guid>
		<description>One last note to Dexter - I'm sure not every person who leaves does so to spend time with their family…or to go where the Lord leads them…. but then that's really their business isn't it.  If they aren't telling the truth - a much higher power than you will be calling them into accounting.  If they are and you accuse them of lying, that same power will hold your accounting sheet BUT if you do it to the wrong person, they may decide to make you accountable here and now by demanding you show proof or 'tell it to the judge'.  Don't let the apparant veil the internet offers give you the mistaken belief that identities can't be discovered should it become a legal issue.

I've talked to Matt on more than one occasion about how much he missed Lindsey and Fletcher while he was on long trips.  And you could see the longing in his eyes, it wasn't just polite conversation.  

And to observant one, not that my assurance will mean a lot to you but I can assure you that Matt appreciated Rachel giving the info she did.

He does feel torn between two things he loves and is trying to make the right decision for right now in his life.  But you know reading a few people's comments may make him glad that at least a small part of the SGM life (critical people who state opinions as facts) will not be a part of his life now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last note to Dexter - I&#8217;m sure not every person who leaves does so to spend time with their family…or to go where the Lord leads them…. but then that&#8217;s really their business isn&#8217;t it.  If they aren&#8217;t telling the truth - a much higher power than you will be calling them into accounting.  If they are and you accuse them of lying, that same power will hold your accounting sheet BUT if you do it to the wrong person, they may decide to make you accountable here and now by demanding you show proof or &#8216;tell it to the judge&#8217;.  Don&#8217;t let the apparant veil the internet offers give you the mistaken belief that identities can&#8217;t be discovered should it become a legal issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to Matt on more than one occasion about how much he missed Lindsey and Fletcher while he was on long trips.  And you could see the longing in his eyes, it wasn&#8217;t just polite conversation.  </p>
<p>And to observant one, not that my assurance will mean a lot to you but I can assure you that Matt appreciated Rachel giving the info she did.</p>
<p>He does feel torn between two things he loves and is trying to make the right decision for right now in his life.  But you know reading a few people&#8217;s comments may make him glad that at least a small part of the SGM life (critical people who state opinions as facts) will not be a part of his life now.</p>
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		<title>By: David &#38; Emily Webb</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568076</link>
		<dc:creator>David &#38; Emily Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568076</guid>
		<description>We are Lindsey Holt's aunt and uncle...Just a note of thanks to everyone who has been so gracious and complimentary of Matthew's talent and work.  We can assure all his fans that Matthew's departure from the Perrys is truly bittersweet. His love for Lindsey and Fletcher and his longing to be with them everyday is paramount in his life.  Our entire family is indebted to Tracy &#38; Libbi Stuffle for these past four years.  The many ways in which they have shown their love and support to Matthew &#38; Lindsey is way beyond the realm of just an employer. 
We realize that it is difficult for some not to try to find a "real, salacious, negative" reason for someone leaving a group.  Sorry, in this case the real reason is just as the press release stated.  Please remember Matthew in your thoughts and prayers...July 27 will be a night filled with many tears for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are Lindsey Holt&#8217;s aunt and uncle&#8230;Just a note of thanks to everyone who has been so gracious and complimentary of Matthew&#8217;s talent and work.  We can assure all his fans that Matthew&#8217;s departure from the Perrys is truly bittersweet. His love for Lindsey and Fletcher and his longing to be with them everyday is paramount in his life.  Our entire family is indebted to Tracy &amp; Libbi Stuffle for these past four years.  The many ways in which they have shown their love and support to Matthew &amp; Lindsey is way beyond the realm of just an employer.<br />
We realize that it is difficult for some not to try to find a &#8220;real, salacious, negative&#8221; reason for someone leaving a group.  Sorry, in this case the real reason is just as the press release stated.  Please remember Matthew in your thoughts and prayers&#8230;July 27 will be a night filled with many tears for him.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568046</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-568046</guid>
		<description>to #50 We are very good friends with Matt.  I assure you he doesn't mind.  He was even willing to post a comment to what his pay was, so that people could see that he was paid well, and to prove that money was not the issue.  If I had quoted his yearly earnings then that might be a different story. But, I am sure that that is what some would love to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to #50 We are very good friends with Matt.  I assure you he doesn&#8217;t mind.  He was even willing to post a comment to what his pay was, so that people could see that he was paid well, and to prove that money was not the issue.  If I had quoted his yearly earnings then that might be a different story. But, I am sure that that is what some would love to see.</p>
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		<title>By: not a grammarian</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567983</link>
		<dc:creator>not a grammarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567983</guid>
		<description>quartet-man
I'll be sure and use that as an excuse next time I get pulled over.  Honest, Officer, I wasn't "intentionally" speeding!
D.Ann
You make a lot of sense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quartet-man<br />
I&#8217;ll be sure and use that as an excuse next time I get pulled over.  Honest, Officer, I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;intentionally&#8221; speeding!<br />
D.Ann<br />
You make a lot of sense</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567746</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567746</guid>
		<description>#45 I am not sure people who use jeez or their equivalents are breaking the commandment as you say. I know it was never used by me intentionally as a substitution for the Lord's name, so therefore I am not sure those who use it without meaning it that way qualify. However, I guess others might think we are doing it and erring on the side of caution might be best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 I am not sure people who use jeez or their equivalents are breaking the commandment as you say. I know it was never used by me intentionally as a substitution for the Lord&#8217;s name, so therefore I am not sure those who use it without meaning it that way qualify. However, I guess others might think we are doing it and erring on the side of caution might be best.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Ann Bailey</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567355</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Ann Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567355</guid>
		<description>Sticking to the truth is always a safe bet, regardless of whether that is what is in a press release or not.  If you have FACTS, not your opinions or something you have heard, to back up what you say that's one thing.  But to make statements that are harmful without that is not only wrong, you could be put in a position to have to prove it or be liable for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sticking to the truth is always a safe bet, regardless of whether that is what is in a press release or not.  If you have FACTS, not your opinions or something you have heard, to back up what you say that&#8217;s one thing.  But to make statements that are harmful without that is not only wrong, you could be put in a position to have to prove it or be liable for it.</p>
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		<title>By: darrel s.</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567203</link>
		<dc:creator>darrel s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567203</guid>
		<description>you guys run out of things to talk about these days dont you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys run out of things to talk about these days dont you?</p>
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		<title>By: observant boy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567148</link>
		<dc:creator>observant boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567148</guid>
		<description>#47 rachel

I am sure that matt will love having the spouse of his accountant talking about his finances on a blog. 

Even though you were defending him, I imagine you should not talk about that sort of thing.

Privacy is still good, even in the internet age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 rachel</p>
<p>I am sure that matt will love having the spouse of his accountant talking about his finances on a blog. </p>
<p>Even though you were defending him, I imagine you should not talk about that sort of thing.</p>
<p>Privacy is still good, even in the internet age.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567060</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-567060</guid>
		<description>I apologize....I guess I need to stick to the truth that I've always read in press releases...that everyone always leaves groups to spend time with their family...or to go where the Lord leads them....I was foolish to think otherwise.....once again....I apologize....I'll not bring it up again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize&#8230;.I guess I need to stick to the truth that I&#8217;ve always read in press releases&#8230;that everyone always leaves groups to spend time with their family&#8230;or to go where the Lord leads them&#8230;.I was foolish to think otherwise&#8230;..once again&#8230;.I apologize&#8230;.I&#8217;ll not bring it up again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: D. Ann Bailey</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-566943</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Ann Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/07/21/goodbye-matthew-holt/#comment-566943</guid>
		<description>#44 - Dexter where do you get the crap you post????  Sorry if that offends anyone but if manure makes you happier I'll use it.  

Do you just say whatever you think will stir something up?  I'd be careful what you say because statements about others that could be considered slander and certainly are said an intent to bring harm to their character would hold up for a NICE LARGE claim in any court in the land, so you better make real sure you get some facts to back up your claims.

Of course, I doubt Tracy or Libbi are the kind of folks that take you to court because they aren't trying to take anything they didn't earn.  Count yourself lucky, most of us would see you in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44 - Dexter where do you get the crap you post????  Sorry if that offends anyone but if manure makes you happier I&#8217;ll use it.  </p>
<p>Do you just say whatever you think will stir something up?  I&#8217;d be careful what you say because statements about others that could be considered slander and certainly are said an intent to bring harm to their character would hold up for a NICE LARGE claim in any court in the land, so you better make real sure you get some facts to back up your claims.</p>
<p>Of course, I doubt Tracy or Libbi are the kind of folks that take you to court because they aren&#8217;t trying to take anything they didn&#8217;t earn.  Count yourself lucky, most of us would see you in court.</p>
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