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	<title>Comments on: Greater Vision update</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 16:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wackythinker</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-604304</link>
		<dc:creator>wackythinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-604304</guid>
		<description>George, I agree the new site is great.  But I don't understand the trend of publicity photos and album covers having the artist's picture slanted so extremely.  Isn't the blood rushing to their heads going to affect their singing?  It's becoming trite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, I agree the new site is great.  But I don&#8217;t understand the trend of publicity photos and album covers having the artist&#8217;s picture slanted so extremely.  Isn&#8217;t the blood rushing to their heads going to affect their singing?  It&#8217;s becoming trite.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-604190</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-604190</guid>
		<description>GV's Website is by far one of the best web-site in SG music today.

Good Job GREATER VISION 
for a new and clean look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GV&#8217;s Website is by far one of the best web-site in SG music today.</p>
<p>Good Job GREATER VISION<br />
for a new and clean look.</p>
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		<title>By: nonSGfan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-600144</link>
		<dc:creator>nonSGfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-600144</guid>
		<description>ALSO, apart from being off pitch several times, his CORNY performance is typical southern gospel.  It's funny to me that if you're in southern gospel, you can use hand motions, stage movement, ect. (as corny as possible) if you're baptist, cause they know it's just performance, but if you're pentecostal, people act like you're being too spiritual.  Gold City (jonathon wilburn), Talley trio (the dude), greater vision (everybody).  ITS the weirdest and fakest movements in the history of mankind.  The only ppl who don't look corny, are Kim Hopper, David Phelps, Guy Nimrod, and a few others.  Look at that goof up there in that clip, he looks like he's constipated trying to push one out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALSO, apart from being off pitch several times, his CORNY performance is typical southern gospel.  It&#8217;s funny to me that if you&#8217;re in southern gospel, you can use hand motions, stage movement, ect. (as corny as possible) if you&#8217;re baptist, cause they know it&#8217;s just performance, but if you&#8217;re pentecostal, people act like you&#8217;re being too spiritual.  Gold City (jonathon wilburn), Talley trio (the dude), greater vision (everybody).  ITS the weirdest and fakest movements in the history of mankind.  The only ppl who don&#8217;t look corny, are Kim Hopper, David Phelps, Guy Nimrod, and a few others.  Look at that goof up there in that clip, he looks like he&#8217;s constipated trying to push one out.</p>
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		<title>By: GospelMusicFan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-600086</link>
		<dc:creator>GospelMusicFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-600086</guid>
		<description>LeeBob, couldn't resist this relative matter to your reply #11.

Ask Obama about pitch correction.
Last month when the plane Obama was on had pitch problem up in the skies.
Only when the plane got to a lower altitude the pitch correction gave the pilot control of the aircraft.
Check our the story &lt;a HREF="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Politics/story?id=5581453&#38;page=1" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeeBob, couldn&#8217;t resist this relative matter to your reply #11.</p>
<p>Ask Obama about pitch correction.<br />
Last month when the plane Obama was on had pitch problem up in the skies.<br />
Only when the plane got to a lower altitude the pitch correction gave the pilot control of the aircraft.<br />
Check our the story <a HREF="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Politics/story?id=5581453&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-599292</link>
		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-599292</guid>
		<description>Based on this one youbube performance, I'd say GV should've held on to Jason W.  I realize the sound quality is not the best, etc, but I'm not impressed with this new tenor's voice. Wouldn't a group like GV get the best vocalist possible?  Maybe they did.  His tone and intonation are not that great.  I'm sure he's nervous etc, too.   I'll wait to hear them in person, or on cd.  I hope  I am proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on this one youbube performance, I&#8217;d say GV should&#8217;ve held on to Jason W.  I realize the sound quality is not the best, etc, but I&#8217;m not impressed with this new tenor&#8217;s voice. Wouldn&#8217;t a group like GV get the best vocalist possible?  Maybe they did.  His tone and intonation are not that great.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s nervous etc, too.   I&#8217;ll wait to hear them in person, or on cd.  I hope  I am proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: nonSGfan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598933</link>
		<dc:creator>nonSGfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598933</guid>
		<description>sorry.... off*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry&#8230;. off*</p>
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		<title>By: nonSGfan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598932</link>
		<dc:creator>nonSGfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598932</guid>
		<description>Dude was TOTALLY of note at the end, at least a half step, maybe a full.  

AAHHHH!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude was TOTALLY of note at the end, at least a half step, maybe a full.  </p>
<p>AAHHHH!!</p>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598859</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598859</guid>
		<description>Leebob -- Pitch correction SHOULD only be used in the studio, IMHO.  But the Pfeifers use it in concert.  I think that would be awfully scarry, as it has to be used selectively, to be done properly.

I don't think a live setting is consistant enough for pitch correction devices.  Maybe folks should learn to sing on-key?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leebob &#8212; Pitch correction SHOULD only be used in the studio, IMHO.  But the Pfeifers use it in concert.  I think that would be awfully scarry, as it has to be used selectively, to be done properly.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think a live setting is consistant enough for pitch correction devices.  Maybe folks should learn to sing on-key?</p>
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		<title>By: Leebob</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598743</link>
		<dc:creator>Leebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-598743</guid>
		<description>The only other thing that will annoy me more than a flat tenor is a preacher with 7 "final" points. Can I get an amen?

Pitch correction only works on recordings correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only other thing that will annoy me more than a flat tenor is a preacher with 7 &#8220;final&#8221; points. Can I get an amen?</p>
<p>Pitch correction only works on recordings correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Peters</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597737</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597737</guid>
		<description>I don't know which is worse, a flat tenor or a sharp sining soprano.  Both hurt my sensitive ears.  Anyway, with the marvels of "pitch correction," anybody (Even Ernie Haase) can sing on key.  I remember one of his first nights with the CAT's (my favorite quartet of all time) when he sang flatter than this new Greater Vision kid.  I could probably overlook his singing flat, but that damned honking like a goose...I don't know who he is trying to imitate, but it's a bad one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know which is worse, a flat tenor or a sharp sining soprano.  Both hurt my sensitive ears.  Anyway, with the marvels of &#8220;pitch correction,&#8221; anybody (Even Ernie Haase) can sing on key.  I remember one of his first nights with the CAT&#8217;s (my favorite quartet of all time) when he sang flatter than this new Greater Vision kid.  I could probably overlook his singing flat, but that damned honking like a goose&#8230;I don&#8217;t know who he is trying to imitate, but it&#8217;s a bad one.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Hefner</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597654</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597654</guid>
		<description>#2, actually Diana Brantley wrote the piece on the sgconcerts.com site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2, actually Diana Brantley wrote the piece on the sgconcerts.com site!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Hefner</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597651</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-597651</guid>
		<description>Here's my report of the farewell event.  Go to post #2374
http://www.faithcommunitynetwork.com/m_1846422/mpage_95/tm.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my report of the farewell event.  Go to post #2374<br />
<a href="http://www.faithcommunitynetwork.com/m_1846422/mpage_95/tm.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.faithcommunitynetwork.com/m_1846422/mpage_95/tm.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: SH</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596804</link>
		<dc:creator>SH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596804</guid>
		<description>I'm not a seasoned SG concert goer, but I was very amused by this video: beyond the silver heads swaying in the foreground, it looked like 3 guys singing in front of a very large picture of the same 3 guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a seasoned SG concert goer, but I was very amused by this video: beyond the silver heads swaying in the foreground, it looked like 3 guys singing in front of a very large picture of the same 3 guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Carter</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596575</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596575</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the clarification guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification guys.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyWatson</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596542</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyWatson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/08/12/greater-vision-update/#comment-596542</guid>
		<description>There is a nice video on YouTube giving some highlights of Jason's farewell concert August 2nd. 

We hosted Greater Vision for our 18th annual Evenings with Greater Vision on the 7th and 8th of August - Jacob's 2nd and 3rd night out with GV as a full-member and his first times to set up sound, run sound and sing. It was also his first Texas appearances. He did a great job and you can certainly see that his upside is big. People loved him. He has a very nice tone and a good tenor sound. He's a very grounded young man - I guess you'd have to be if you are the oldest of 12 kids and your mom is younger than your new boss (Gerald). 

One event of note happened on the Friday night concert. Kenneth Payne, brother of Glen Payne, drove down for the concert. He's at a lot of GV and Legacy Five dates when they are not too far from the Metroplex. Gerald brought him out on stage and had him sing bass on "Just a Little Talk With Jesus". He did a good job and the crowd loved it. Lot of the same mannerisms as Glen and a similar tone to his voice. 

Story goes that Kenneth was going to be going to Canada with Legacy Five last month. As he drove up to meet the bus, he neglected to put his car in park and his car rammed into the side of L5's bus, bashing in one of the bay doors. Scott called him up at Red Deer on stage to sing as "payment" for the damage he did to the bus.  Kenneth is a very nice gentleman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a nice video on YouTube giving some highlights of Jason&#8217;s farewell concert August 2nd. </p>
<p>We hosted Greater Vision for our 18th annual Evenings with Greater Vision on the 7th and 8th of August - Jacob&#8217;s 2nd and 3rd night out with GV as a full-member and his first times to set up sound, run sound and sing. It was also his first Texas appearances. He did a great job and you can certainly see that his upside is big. People loved him. He has a very nice tone and a good tenor sound. He&#8217;s a very grounded young man - I guess you&#8217;d have to be if you are the oldest of 12 kids and your mom is younger than your new boss (Gerald). </p>
<p>One event of note happened on the Friday night concert. Kenneth Payne, brother of Glen Payne, drove down for the concert. He&#8217;s at a lot of GV and Legacy Five dates when they are not too far from the Metroplex. Gerald brought him out on stage and had him sing bass on &#8220;Just a Little Talk With Jesus&#8221;. He did a good job and the crowd loved it. Lot of the same mannerisms as Glen and a similar tone to his voice. </p>
<p>Story goes that Kenneth was going to be going to Canada with Legacy Five last month. As he drove up to meet the bus, he neglected to put his car in park and his car rammed into the side of L5&#8217;s bus, bashing in one of the bay doors. Scott called him up at Red Deer on stage to sing as &#8220;payment&#8221; for the damage he did to the bus.  Kenneth is a very nice gentleman.</p>
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