So I guess that means you also routinely walk into a Christian bookstore, help yourself to a book, Bible, hymnal, or CD off the shelf, and walk out without paying for it?

Nuff said!

Bless your heart. I’ll pray for you. I pray that God will convict your heart and that you will repent and make restitution for the theft you have committed. I’ll also pray for your pastor’s forgiveness for making a living “off of the gospel!”

Sure….turn it aroun on me. I guess I cannot compete with the marketing machine of the Booth Brothers. They obviously have a bucnh of foolish drones on this site that will bang the company drum and attack anyone who would dare speak out against them.

You can think what you want about me. It does not change the fact that the Booth Borthers are overhyped, under talented, over produced, stack reliant, pretty boys who could not survive in any form or genre of music except SG. They pretend to be spiritual and holy to make a living (off of the gospel!).

Shameful.

Then you were not dealing with a reputable company. I don’t know it all, but I do live and work in Nasvhille and I have a degree centered around the music industry and have studied music industry law.

You said: “I am a 21 year Gospel Music Veteran. My ministry even had a write up in the singing news way back in 1995.”

That doesn’t change the fact that you are thieves and Singing News ads bought by the group or promoter don’t count as articles or “write up” as you put it.

You said: “I choose not to pay for the use of singing God’s word. I think that any song writer worth his salt would not accept money for the word of God.”

Yeah, you choose to steal. God did give us the free will to reject His commandments didn’t He? Again those songs you sing are BASED on God’s Word, but they are NOT God’s Word. That is two different things.

You said: “When we sing we sing only for expense monsy. We dont ask anything for our cds. People can take them and give us an offering if they want. We give many away.”

Even major nonprofits pay copyright royalties. The only way you can avoid it is to not accept anything for the CD. Present the CD as a demo, put them on a table and say anyone who wants them, take them. You can’t accept money for them, otherwise you are comitting copyright infringement. Even then you are subject to questions. You can’t recupe the cost of demos. By the way, it should have read expense money.

You said: “People like the Booth Brothers show up in a big white flashy bus with the NFL network booming inside (drowning out the noise of the hairdyers) and then have the gall to charge thousands of $$$ and then try and call it a ministry.”

Unlike you, the Booth Brothers have worked and paid their dues. They deserve every penny they get for their concerts. This is how they make their living. It costs quite a bit to be on the road full time (something you obviously wouldn’t know) and believe me, they are not getting rich off of it.

You said: “This is why people respond to what we are doing. We are real….you are fake.”

I believe your orignial post was complaining about the response of people. You complained about the Booth Brothers getting better responses than you. So which is it? Are people responding or are they not? You see, the only thing that is fake in this conversation is you holier than thou, self centered, egotistical, ignorant view of your own self. You claim to be representing God, yet throughout your argument, you have represented the opposite. I’ll pray for “ya”. After all, you need it.

You all are so stupid talking to me like I don’t know anything. I laugh at your ignorance. I am a 21 year Gospel Music Veteran. My ministry even had a write up in the singing news way back in 1995. We are not newcomers.

I choose not to pay for the use of singing God’s word. I think that any song writer worth his salt would not accept money for the word of God.

When we sing we sing only for expense monsy. We dont ask anything for our cds. People can take them and give us an offering if they want. We give many away.

People like the Booth Brothers show up in a big white flashy bus with the NFL network booming inside (drowning out the noise of the hairdyers) and then have the gall to charge thousands of $$$ and then try and call it a ministry.

and some of you want to judge me.

This is why people respond to what we are doing. We are real….you are fake.

One final thought. Earlier you touted recording a DVD in Nashville. You have now negated that argument, because no reputable company will record you in Nashville until you sign a waiver stating that you are responsible for all the licensing and no reputable duplication company will duplicate the project without copies of the consent letters from publishers to use the material and/or copies of the licenses.

You better hope that Hell starts freezing now, because as long as you are stealing someone else’s property you are putting yourself in danger of experiencing it first hand. Again, the Gospel is free. You can read and tell someone the story of The Bible all day long. The long and short of it, you are the “SHAM” (not the Booth Brothers). At least they pay royalties on the songs they use that others write. I believe that shows that they have at least some integrity and that is something you now lack.

# 62 Wayne,

I’m afraid our friend notaboothbrotherfan does not represent the type of group that you should want to have at any event of yours. Don’t worry though, there are plenty of good groups out there (including the Booth Brothers).

Just so you can get an idea of how much you might owe on a 10 song project.

1000 copies about $900
500 copies about $450

Plus a few processing fees.

You couldn’t be more wrong. The songs are someone elses’ property whether they are used for ministry or not. You are stealing from the writers maybe even food out of their mouths. How would you feel working at your job and being told when pay day rolls around that they aren’t going to pay you because they were providing services and products to people? How would you like it if someone used your vehicle, house etc. for God’s work whenever they wanted and refused to pay rent, for gas, wear and tear etc? How about someone taking all of your CD’s for no money and selling them and keeping the money? The ministry thing whether true or just a workaround does not work. You are making money off of those CD’s and even if you weren’t the songs aren’t yours to give away. If you want to do that, then record hymns that are in public domain and go to town.

your argument for use in the ministry would be like a pastor stealing Bibles to give away. It doesn’t fly. Even excluding the moral issues mentioned, the publishing companies and performing rights organizations can sue you. If you are recording with tracks instead of the band, and don’t pay mechanicals you are stealing too.