Quoting God’s Word to prove that homosexuality is an abominable sin, a stench in the nostrils of God, is NOT “hate and bigotry”!!! IT is what GOD says.

Do you think ANY of us, in this day and age, would be so brazen to even think what God SAYS, let alone say it by ourselves, and on our own? We would be absolutely crazy. In this day of “political correctness”, we would truly be shunned.

But we are NOT saying these things on our own! We are quoting the God of the Bible, Whose Word you categorically reject.

Your Bible isn’t defective. It just hasn’t been opened in a long, long time. And when it has been opened, you have discarded half of it.

And I am still waiting for your answer to my question…post #207.

Again, I welcome you showing me how I used anything out of context. You see, I have not presented my “version” of the gospel. There is only one version. There are many different interpretations, but all subject to the same gospel (truth). I did not say you have no understanding of scripture, just a limited understanding of context. Sure I take the Bible literally at its word, but more than that, I look at it from a spiritual, literal, and historical context. Something I would suggest you try. You continue to challenge me on the 1 Kings passage, but you never answered the reply. If you read my response, you’ll see what the context of that scripture is in the light of a complete contextual knowlege of it. That is not saying that I know everything in the Bible, that would be far from the truth, but what I do know is how to look at it in full (not partial or just historical) context. I have thrown no arrows at you, but if you feel that way, maybe it is conviction. Take that up with God, not me. All I have done is presented the truth. I have done so without ever using all caps to represent yelling ( as you have done hence the temper tantrum) and without ever even calling you such things as and I quote, “the WORST kind of Christian, the holier than thou, sanctimonious, self-righteous, Bible-banging, soul patrol kind “. I believe that is what you said about me a few posts back. I guess coming from you I should consider that a compliment, LOL. Our records speak for themselves my friend and anyone that reads them will see what we have both said. So please don’t pretend that I have just lambasted you with insults and called you names. I have done nothing of the sort, just presented the truth again based on scripture and the conversation we have had. My suggestion to you, if you don’t like it-get over it. Better yet, take it up with God. After all, His Word is what condemns homosexuality as sin. Not mine. I’m still prayin’ for ya. Hope you have a good night.

You might as well throw your Bible away. It’s defective. Mine doesn’t justify hate, bigrotry, etc. I don’t know what version you have, but it is missing all of the pages about God and love. Old Harry Peters is praying for you.

I have an honest and quite serious question to ask you. I will not hammer on you as have the others above. You asked me a question, and I gave you a Scriptural answer. I want an honest and Scriptural answer from you, sir.

Humanly speaking, who will be in hell, and why?

And, you’ve said that you are a Biblical Literalist. I have a soft spot for Biblical Literalists because I used to be one. So, I know every argument you’re going to present, every “fact” you’re gonna throw out, every verse you’re going to TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT and hurl at me. I’m not hearing anything new.

Also, as far as my “not backing up” my arguments of you’re lifting things out of context, I went back and re-read AGAIN all your posts directed toward me. You only quoted ONE verse, (scripture and passage location) and that was the 1 Kings reference and I did back that up. You just presented the same old tired counter-argument that, quite franky, doen’t hold water. Go ahead, throw another arrow at me.

And as far as “temper tantrums,” don’t be condescending to me saying that I’m doing something that a child does to get his way. If anyone is throwing a temper tantrum, it’s you friend. I don’t care whether you see my point of view or not. You’re the one’s that hell-bent (or should I say Heaven bent ;)) to get your way and have everyone see your point of view. And, trust me, we all know where you stand.

So, like I said in my last post to you, I’m not turning this into a back and forth argument with you. I’m finished. I’ll continue to read and probably comment but I’m no longer going to argue with you. Believe what you want and I’ll believe what I want and I’m leaving it at that. I HOPE you can do the same.

Here is the main problem I have with your comments, besides the fact that you refer to yourself in third person way too much. You are completely wrong in your assertation that sexual orientation (other than heterosexual) was part of God’s creation. It is a by product of sin (a perversion of God’s plan). By the way, you are part of God’s creation and I guarantee you that you are not perfect. There is none perfect except Him. God does want His creation to be happy as you stated, but the only way that will ever fully happen is to allow Him to be God of all aspects of their lives. Guess what, homosexuality does not fit in that equation as evidenced by scripture. The point is, God has already spoken and decided for Himself on the issue. We have record of this in His Word (the Bible). Maybe you should take some time to read it. I might suggest a class in hermeneutics though. It will help you get proper understanding of context in all three areas of spiritual, literal and historical context. One of those 3 with our the other 2 would be an incomplete understanding, as evidenced by our friend UKCatsfan when he challenged me on context. I believe in a God of Love. He is Love, but in that perfect love there is no room for sin. Sin is the opposite of love and it is born in selfishness. It’s kind of like trying to mix oil and water, just will not happen. The two always separate. Where the oil is, the water can’t be. Where the water is, the oil can’t be.

Now, if you have diffiuclty accepting the Bible and what it says about homosexuality, just remember this: You and I have no right to pick and choose what part of the Bible we like and what part we don’t. If you reject some of it, then none of it is reliable. If you cannot accept God’s declarations about sin, then you can’t trust His declarations about His love, His grace, or His salvation. For that matter, if we can’t trust the entire Bible, then how do we know there is even a heaven? Or a personal God? Everything rises or falls on the Bible.

That is the real question here.

The homosexuals have thrown the Bible away. And so has old Harry Peters.

Old Harry Peters hopes he is not one of the 155 posts that you mentioned. I want to die with a clean conscience and that means that I love everyone with no conditions. I accept everyone as they are and I strongly suspect (and hope) that God does too. You know, so many people here want to help God judge and find reason to kick people out of heaven. Old Harry Peters believes that God is loving and embracing and would do ANYTHING (including allowing His own Son to be crucified) to prevent anyone from perishing. My wife, Fonda, knows that Harry Peters is heterosexual, but guess what? Harry Peters also loves his gay brothers and sisters. What business is it of the church or state to decide who we love and lie down with? Keep the Faith, my brothers, you are MY FAMILY and I’ll suffer with you, if that’s what it takes. Please know just this one thing….there are Christians who love you and accept you and truly WANT you to be part of the family.