Comments on: Open thread http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Wed, 23 May 2012 17:37:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Carol Y http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-742979 Carol Y Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:49:32 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-742979 Hear Ron Blackwood is starting a new quartet at the beginning of next year. Anyone heard the rumor. It is to consist of Ron, John Rudapaugh, Trent Adams and Josh Garner, with Joe Cox on the piano. Hear Ron Blackwood is starting a new quartet at the beginning of next year. Anyone heard the rumor. It is to consist of Ron, John Rudapaugh, Trent Adams and Josh Garner, with Joe Cox on the piano.

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-692344 Wade Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:07:02 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-692344 IrishLaddy... I knew who you were referring to...FOR SOME REASON...lol...my comments are held for review a little longer than most getting them out of order when they finally hit. Especially since Old Harry Peters has not posted in a while. I miss Old Harry Peters...he's not been on here busting a nut for us in a long time... lol..speaking of nuts I miss LeeBob too... Dr. Joe is finally back being RIGHT despite history. Me thinks Dr. Joe could use some SELF medicating!!! But I love him!!! IrishLaddy… I knew who you were referring to…FOR SOME REASON…lol…my comments are held for review a little longer than most getting them out of order when they finally hit. Especially since Old Harry Peters has not posted in a while.

I miss Old Harry Peters…he’s not been on here busting a nut for us in a long time… lol..speaking of nuts I miss LeeBob too… Dr. Joe is finally back being RIGHT despite history. Me thinks Dr. Joe could use some SELF medicating!!! But I love him!!!

]]> By: 1 old fan http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690992 1 old fan Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:56:21 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690992 Don, of course it would be different. But none of the people we've discussed are our pastors. And they're not being accused of sleeping with MY wife. And we should not hold them in the same regard as a pastor. We are all called by Christ to a standard of holy living. But I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact that the singer on the stage is not our pastor. He/she should not be considered any more of a hypocrite that the worshipper in the pew. I sure ain't gonna cast the first stone! Don, of course it would be different. But none of the people we’ve discussed are our pastors. And they’re not being accused of sleeping with MY wife.

And we should not hold them in the same regard as a pastor. We are all called by Christ to a standard of holy living. But I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact that the singer on the stage is not our pastor. He/she should not be considered any more of a hypocrite that the worshipper in the pew.

I sure ain’t gonna cast the first stone!

]]> By: Don http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690917 Don Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:34:44 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690917 1 old fan, Would it be different if the pastor of your church was sleeping with your wife, Would you keep on going to the same church and over looking it , or would you think differently and keep on going to him for marriage counseling. 1 old fan,

Would it be different if the pastor of your church was sleeping with your wife, Would you keep on going to the same church and over looking it , or would you think differently and keep on going to him for marriage counseling.

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690877 Irishlad Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:47:22 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690877 Wade bud,my 69 comment was for 68GospelMusicFan,not yourself. Just as well you're heavily sedated. Lol. Wade bud,my 69 comment was for 68GospelMusicFan,not yourself. Just as well you’re heavily sedated. Lol.

]]> By: 1 old fan http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690748 1 old fan Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:59:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-690748 used2be - I'm not sure we should be all that surprised when we find out Christian singers "fall short of the glory of God". What about that bank teller sitting next to you in church, singing "Blessed Assurance" at the top of her lungs? She was out drinking and dancing til 2:00 Sunday morning, but got her make up on in time to make it to church. And the construction worker behind you, raising his hands in glorious praise, while wailing "Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me." Did you know he was sleeping with the accountant on the other side of the aisle. . . the one who gave the emotional display during the choir number? Now, I think the pastor and choir director are genuine, but the organist? Not sure. And do we quit going to that teller's bank, because we know she's a hypocrite? Do we use a different contractor, because we know that worker isn't living like he professes? And should any of this get in the way of our worship? Absolutely not. Jesus addressed this; Paul addressed this. Keep your eyes off people -- keep your eyes on God. As the old hymn says, "Turn your eyes upon Jesus, . . . and the things of earth will grow strangely dim." Now, do we really need to know what's going on in these people's personal lives? Maybe not. But when we do learn bad stuff that's going on, whether it's the person sitting near you in church on Sunday morning, or the guy up on stage at a sg concert, it should not make us lose hope in Jesus or the church. But maybe we should pray, not only for that person we've heard rumors about (and some of may strictly be rumor), but also for ourselves and others, that we not fall into the same temptations. 'Cause we're ALL suseptable!!! used2be - I’m not sure we should be all that surprised when we find out Christian singers “fall short of the glory of God”. What about that bank teller sitting next to you in church, singing “Blessed Assurance” at the top of her lungs? She was out drinking and dancing til 2:00 Sunday morning, but got her make up on in time to make it to church. And the construction worker behind you, raising his hands in glorious praise, while wailing “Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me.” Did you know he was sleeping with the accountant on the other side of the aisle. . . the one who gave the emotional display during the choir number?

Now, I think the pastor and choir director are genuine, but the organist? Not sure.

And do we quit going to that teller’s bank, because we know she’s a hypocrite? Do we use a different contractor, because we know that worker isn’t living like he professes?

And should any of this get in the way of our worship? Absolutely not. Jesus addressed this; Paul addressed this. Keep your eyes off people — keep your eyes on God.

As the old hymn says, “Turn your eyes upon Jesus, . . . and the things of earth will grow strangely dim.”

Now, do we really need to know what’s going on in these people’s personal lives? Maybe not. But when we do learn bad stuff that’s going on, whether it’s the person sitting near you in church on Sunday morning, or the guy up on stage at a sg concert, it should not make us lose hope in Jesus or the church. But maybe we should pray, not only for that person we’ve heard rumors about (and some of may strictly be rumor), but also for ourselves and others, that we not fall into the same temptations. ‘Cause we’re ALL suseptable!!!

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-689358 Irishlad Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:13:27 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-689358 67. At least Paul had an original thought in his head. Think about that the next time you have that uncontrollable feeling to quote. 67. At least Paul had an original thought in his head. Think about that the next time you have that uncontrollable feeling to quote.

]]> By: GospelMusicFan http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-689202 GospelMusicFan Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:06:02 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-689202 To some of you and the rest of you: <a HREF="http://mhc.biblecommenter.com/1_corinthians/3.htm" rel="nofollow">Food for Thought</A> To some of you and the rest of you:

Food for Thought

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688851 Wade Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:31:49 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688851 # 64...IrishBud... Yeah how did ya know... Dr. Joe upped my dosage of benzo's and even helped me get signed up for medical weed!!! It really chills my [Edit] and helps the pressure from my glaucoma. Makes me appear more asian, but slows me down enough to keep from wanting to strangle ppl like CVH does NoN. used2be... are you ever moved emotionally by what you see @ The Movies, TV or a Play??? Guess what...those ppl are actors...it's not real!! If you just married in to the biz...lol... God Bless Ya... you got a rough ride ahead...Did you know WWE was not real??? May I introduce you to Dr. Joe??? lol :-) ;-) # 64…IrishBud… Yeah how did ya know… Dr. Joe upped my dosage of benzo’s and even helped me get signed up for medical weed!!! It really chills my [Edit] and helps the pressure from my glaucoma. Makes me appear more asian, but slows me down enough to keep from wanting to strangle ppl like CVH does NoN.

used2be… are you ever moved emotionally by what you see @ The Movies, TV or a Play??? Guess what…those ppl are actors…it’s not real!! If you just married in to the biz…lol… God Bless Ya… you got a rough ride ahead…Did you know WWE was not real???

May I introduce you to Dr. Joe??? lol :-) ;-)

]]> By: used2befanofsgm http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688443 used2befanofsgm Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:21:32 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688443 Maybe I was naive, but I expect people to be what they say they are. Maybe it's "acts" like I've read about here, that make it difficult for legitimate Ministries. I know that people aren't perfect and there are problems in EVERY field, I just never thought about it being so wide spread in Gospel Ministries. Sorry, that I was so naive. But it does matter to me whether someone is just talking or if they are walking what they talk. It matters a WHOLE LOT! What makes you think I'm just a fan, I could be just new to this "industry" because of marriage or family. Don't just assume!! Maybe I was naive, but I expect people to be what they say they are. Maybe it’s “acts” like I’ve read about here, that make it difficult for legitimate Ministries. I know that people aren’t perfect and there are problems in EVERY field, I just never thought about it being so wide spread in Gospel Ministries. Sorry, that I was so naive. But it does matter to me whether someone is just talking or if they are walking what they talk. It matters a WHOLE LOT! What makes you think I’m just a fan, I could be just new to this “industry” because of marriage or family. Don’t just assume!!

]]> By: CVH http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688178 CVH Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:29:22 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-688178 #60 - used2beafanofsgm, Grow up. This blog is designed for anyone, but it attracts a number of industry people and sometimes the dialogue is a bit 'inside', unlike other SGM fan sites. Sometimes the conversation wavers and goes off track and sometimes things are said that range from mildly to very inappropriate. But as you no doubt understand, despite your protestations to the contrary, SGM is no different from any other genre of music in that the people who write it, produce it, perform it and enjoy it are all over the place in their moral, ethical and spiritual pursuits. That's life. They key is to learn how to navigate successfully through it all. Some artists do "feel the spirit"; others do it for a living and manifest none of the characteristics you might associate with someone who supposedly believes the same things you do. If you're not mature enough to go to a concert without wondering if they're gay or sleeping around or vegetarians or socialists, save yourself the angst and don't go. This site isn't for the faint of heart. But trust me, it's only scratching the surface of what's out there. #60 - used2beafanofsgm,

Grow up.

This blog is designed for anyone, but it attracts a number of industry people and sometimes the dialogue is a bit ‘inside’, unlike other SGM fan sites. Sometimes the conversation wavers and goes off track and sometimes things are said that range from mildly to very inappropriate. But as you no doubt understand, despite your protestations to the contrary, SGM is no different from any other genre of music in that the people who write it, produce it, perform it and enjoy it are all over the place in their moral, ethical and spiritual pursuits. That’s life. They key is to learn how to navigate successfully through it all.

Some artists do “feel the spirit”; others do it for a living and manifest none of the characteristics you might associate with someone who supposedly believes the same things you do.

If you’re not mature enough to go to a concert without wondering if they’re gay or sleeping around or vegetarians or socialists, save yourself the angst and don’t go.

This site isn’t for the faint of heart. But trust me, it’s only scratching the surface of what’s out there.

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687856 Irishlad Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:45:50 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687856 63.Hey Wade my man.Did DrJoe up your med? 'cause that was way too sensible.lol. 63.Hey Wade my man.Did DrJoe up your med? ’cause that was way too sensible.lol.

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687352 Wade Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:25:52 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687352 # 60 - used2be... The best thing I ever learned from a Christian Counselor friend of mine was that your relationship with God should be so personal that the actions of PEOPLE should not EFFECT THAT relationship with God. Once I heard that... it no longer bothers me if a Minister gets up and tries to use guilt bombs or shame arrows to manipulate you to do or not do something... or if the minister or leader in the church fails as a person. Much less worry if a singer is or isn't living or feeling the spirit. IF YOU FEEL IT and it helps inspire, makes you feel better or helps you understand God in a better way then use it... King James of Bible translation fame was just a terrible person. David, Noah & Abraham all did terrible things. But we all benefited from things they did too in a positive way!!! Don't look to the person...look to God. Gold City is my favorite group. Although I know negative things about Ivan & Brian, I still love them and enjoy their music even today. Let's face it... if you get up in the morning and listen to Gold City sing..." If God Be for US...Who Can Be Against US"... it is much harder to have a BAD DAY!!!! # 60 - used2be… The best thing I ever learned from a Christian Counselor friend of mine was that your relationship with God should be so personal that the actions of PEOPLE should not EFFECT THAT relationship with God.

Once I heard that… it no longer bothers me if a Minister gets up and tries to use guilt bombs or shame arrows to manipulate you to do or not do something… or if the minister or leader in the church fails as a person.

Much less worry if a singer is or isn’t living or feeling the spirit. IF YOU FEEL IT and it helps inspire, makes you feel better or helps you understand God in a better way then use it…

King James of Bible translation fame was just a terrible person. David, Noah & Abraham all did terrible things. But we all benefited from things they did too in a positive way!!!

Don’t look to the person…look to God.

Gold City is my favorite group. Although I know negative things about Ivan & Brian, I still love them and enjoy their music even today.

Let’s face it… if you get up in the morning and listen to Gold City sing…” If God Be for US…Who Can Be Against US”… it is much harder to have a BAD DAY!!!!

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687008 Irishlad Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:10:36 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-687008 Oh dear 60 just woke up to the smell of freshly(or should that be fleshly)brewed coffee. Oh dear 60 just woke up to the smell of freshly(or should that be fleshly)brewed coffee.

]]> By: american http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-686740 american Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:46:16 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2008/10/30/open-thread-15/#comment-686740 #60 Please don't be dishearted by the gossip that you see, I am certainly no insider to SGM, but I have loved it and been blessed by it all my life. I will continue to do just that, and let God take care of the rest. #60 Please don’t be dishearted by the gossip that you see, I am certainly no insider to SGM, but I have loved it and been blessed by it all my life. I will continue to do just that, and let God take care of the rest.

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