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	<title>Comments on: Happy Thanksgiving</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
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		<title>By: afan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-750761</link>
		<dc:creator>afan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-750761</guid>
		<description>Maybe I had forgotten that the Steeles had been a part of the Gaither regime, but I came across this youtube clip. The rest of the homecoming artists seems to be really into it, know the song and enjoy the song. It's good to see a group that never quite reached that elite level seeming be so appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avA4xUYLg5U</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I had forgotten that the Steeles had been a part of the Gaither regime, but I came across this youtube clip. The rest of the homecoming artists seems to be really into it, know the song and enjoy the song. It&#8217;s good to see a group that never quite reached that elite level seeming be so appreciated.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avA4xUYLg5U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avA4xUYLg5U</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jb</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-749258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-749258</guid>
		<description>I just read a press release that said mike &#38; Kelly bowling had the #1 song of 2008. I don't understand why they wouldn't be on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a press release that said mike &amp; Kelly bowling had the #1 song of 2008. I don&#8217;t understand why they wouldn&#8217;t be on.</p>
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		<title>By: wackythinker</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-748791</link>
		<dc:creator>wackythinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-748791</guid>
		<description>afan -- #94 -- Maybe the Kingsmen only want to spend 1 night at NQC, and spend the rest of the week making money?

I can't speak for all the artists you've mentioned, and don't know about the Kingsmen (just speculating), but SOMEtimes there are valid reasons why NQC schedules the way they do.

Not always, but sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afan &#8212; #94 &#8212; Maybe the Kingsmen only want to spend 1 night at NQC, and spend the rest of the week making money?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for all the artists you&#8217;ve mentioned, and don&#8217;t know about the Kingsmen (just speculating), but SOMEtimes there are valid reasons why NQC schedules the way they do.</p>
<p>Not always, but sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: afan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-748042</link>
		<dc:creator>afan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-748042</guid>
		<description>NQC...I just read something over at Burke's Brainwork about who is and who's not on the NQC main stage. I will love seeing Ricky Atkinson and Compassion back on the main stage, but how is it that they (who sing together once or twice per month max) get a slot on the main stage? I thought the main stage was reserved for full-time performers. I hope that McDonald is with them for that appearance. Congrats to the Collingsworth Family for getting on the main stage and to HisSong too. HisSong really seems to work hard at what they do. I respect HisSong a lot, but I have to laugh out loud about Chris Unthank saying that they're the finest live performers in SG music (except for the Dove Brothers and Imperials). Give me a break. What would be the rationale for the Kingsmen only being on the main stage one night? That just seems ludicrous. And why no Mike and Kelly Bowling? They're not my cup, but when there's a lot of talk about them not being on the main stage, then they probably should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NQC&#8230;I just read something over at Burke&#8217;s Brainwork about who is and who&#8217;s not on the NQC main stage. I will love seeing Ricky Atkinson and Compassion back on the main stage, but how is it that they (who sing together once or twice per month max) get a slot on the main stage? I thought the main stage was reserved for full-time performers. I hope that McDonald is with them for that appearance. Congrats to the Collingsworth Family for getting on the main stage and to HisSong too. HisSong really seems to work hard at what they do. I respect HisSong a lot, but I have to laugh out loud about Chris Unthank saying that they&#8217;re the finest live performers in SG music (except for the Dove Brothers and Imperials). Give me a break. What would be the rationale for the Kingsmen only being on the main stage one night? That just seems ludicrous. And why no Mike and Kelly Bowling? They&#8217;re not my cup, but when there&#8217;s a lot of talk about them not being on the main stage, then they probably should be.</p>
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		<title>By: afan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-747982</link>
		<dc:creator>afan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-747982</guid>
		<description>Can somebody enlighten me as far as N'Harmony's comeback? Is N'Harmony just going to essentially be part-time, only doing select dates on the weekends? I've visited the N'Harmony web site several times recently and see no tour dates. They have a big sound. They're young. They have energy. A lot of people will take notice as far as what they're doing, but what are they doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody enlighten me as far as N&#8217;Harmony&#8217;s comeback? Is N&#8217;Harmony just going to essentially be part-time, only doing select dates on the weekends? I&#8217;ve visited the N&#8217;Harmony web site several times recently and see no tour dates. They have a big sound. They&#8217;re young. They have energy. A lot of people will take notice as far as what they&#8217;re doing, but what are they doing?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Mount</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-746032</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Mount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-746032</guid>
		<description>#91 - Actually, the Diplomats will make a difference in my schedule choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#91 - Actually, the Diplomats will make a difference in my schedule choices.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-745474</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-745474</guid>
		<description>OK I went to the NQC website and noticed they had posted the new lineup.  WHAT A JOKE!!!!  The biggest joke is the once again absence of Mike &#38; Kelly Bowling from mainstage.  I mean come on folks.....  The Roaks, Browders, Diplomats, Hissong, I could go on and on.  Who can logically say that anyone is going to buy a ticket to listen to any of those groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I went to the NQC website and noticed they had posted the new lineup.  WHAT A JOKE!!!!  The biggest joke is the once again absence of Mike &amp; Kelly Bowling from mainstage.  I mean come on folks&#8230;..  The Roaks, Browders, Diplomats, Hissong, I could go on and on.  Who can logically say that anyone is going to buy a ticket to listen to any of those groups.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-742029</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-742029</guid>
		<description>#88 Sockpuppet, that might be a point, but taking checks through mail isn't exactly foolproof either. It would be pretty easy to commit fraud that way too. All they would have to do is wait until the payment cleared into paypal. I have used it as a buyer for about 8 years I think. Even businesses like Wal*mart and several other places accept paypal. Also, paypal isn't the only way to take cards online. Some groups use that, some use other merchant accounts. The important thing is to offer some sort of online buying that is going to work for the seller and buyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#88 Sockpuppet, that might be a point, but taking checks through mail isn&#8217;t exactly foolproof either. It would be pretty easy to commit fraud that way too. All they would have to do is wait until the payment cleared into paypal. I have used it as a buyer for about 8 years I think. Even businesses like Wal*mart and several other places accept paypal. Also, paypal isn&#8217;t the only way to take cards online. Some groups use that, some use other merchant accounts. The important thing is to offer some sort of online buying that is going to work for the seller and buyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Extra Ink</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-741901</link>
		<dc:creator>Extra Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-741901</guid>
		<description>I have been using Paypal for years as an eBay seller and also our singing group uses it to sell CDs from our website.  I've never had any major problem.  I'm glad the service is there.  It has been beneficial to my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using Paypal for years as an eBay seller and also our singing group uses it to sell CDs from our website.  I&#8217;ve never had any major problem.  I&#8217;m glad the service is there.  It has been beneficial to my business.</p>
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		<title>By: sockpuppet</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740389</link>
		<dc:creator>sockpuppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740389</guid>
		<description>#83 q-man,
if you read some of the horror stories of businesses that have been forced into bankruptcy because of unethical paypal users and refusal by said company to do anything about it, you might go a little easier on those "technologically challenged" groups or websites.
Paypal can be a nightmare - check it out, just "google" paypal fraud or paypal ripoff and you'll get an idea of just how messed up your group could be if you trusted the weasels at paypal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 q-man,<br />
if you read some of the horror stories of businesses that have been forced into bankruptcy because of unethical paypal users and refusal by said company to do anything about it, you might go a little easier on those &#8220;technologically challenged&#8221; groups or websites.<br />
Paypal can be a nightmare - check it out, just &#8220;google&#8221; paypal fraud or paypal ripoff and you&#8217;ll get an idea of just how messed up your group could be if you trusted the weasels at paypal.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740362</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740362</guid>
		<description>I went to archive.org and found the old site for Perfect Heart (the newer group.) The first entry is August 15, 2001 and the last entry that was for the group and not whoever else took over the site was August 3, 2002. 

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://perfectheartministries.com

Here is a copy of the bio:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011006134418/www.perfectheartministries.com/ph/bio.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to archive.org and found the old site for Perfect Heart (the newer group.) The first entry is August 15, 2001 and the last entry that was for the group and not whoever else took over the site was August 3, 2002. </p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/</a>*/http://perfectheartministries.com</p>
<p>Here is a copy of the bio:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20011006134418/www.perfectheartministries.com/ph/bio.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20011006134418/www.perfectheartministries.com/ph/bio.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grigs</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740083</link>
		<dc:creator>Grigs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740083</guid>
		<description>Re: #81

I'm thinking it was 2000, maybe '01. They did an album of old PH songs, not sure if they did any others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #81</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking it was 2000, maybe &#8216;01. They did an album of old PH songs, not sure if they did any others.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740044</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-740044</guid>
		<description>I saw an ad about them in the SN about 6 years ago. I think it mentioned something about a new cd...but never heard any single or other songs from it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw an ad about them in the SN about 6 years ago. I think it mentioned something about a new cd&#8230;but never heard any single or other songs from it..</p>
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		<title>By: wackythinker</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-739954</link>
		<dc:creator>wackythinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-739954</guid>
		<description>Subject change:  Whatever happened to Leebob?  He hasn't posted in about 2 months, and he's no longer on his family group's website.  Did he make any pronouncement that I might have missed?  

Or Lee, are you posting under another alias?  

(That was a stupid question.  If you were, you wouldn't respond.  Duh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject change:  Whatever happened to Leebob?  He hasn&#8217;t posted in about 2 months, and he&#8217;s no longer on his family group&#8217;s website.  Did he make any pronouncement that I might have missed?  </p>
<p>Or Lee, are you posting under another alias?  </p>
<p>(That was a stupid question.  If you were, you wouldn&#8217;t respond.  Duh!)</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-739843</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2008/11/27/happy-thanksgiving/#comment-739843</guid>
		<description>New subject: Why in the world would groups that even have websites insist on using "order forms" to get merchandise? Well, I guess it is probably money, but they could set up a paypal car system or something. Even charge a little more if they had to (if you used it.) I don't think there is much excuse for that anymore. I detest having to go through the trouble of printing a form, filling it out, filling out a check, mailing them and then waiting forever. I do about all I can online and if I can't, it often doesn't get done. This is costing some people some sales.

There are other problems I will address later, but the above is a pet peeve of mine. SG typically seems to be behind the times, but not having the ability to order and pay from the website these days is pretty sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New subject: Why in the world would groups that even have websites insist on using &#8220;order forms&#8221; to get merchandise? Well, I guess it is probably money, but they could set up a paypal car system or something. Even charge a little more if they had to (if you used it.) I don&#8217;t think there is much excuse for that anymore. I detest having to go through the trouble of printing a form, filling it out, filling out a check, mailing them and then waiting forever. I do about all I can online and if I can&#8217;t, it often doesn&#8217;t get done. This is costing some people some sales.</p>
<p>There are other problems I will address later, but the above is a pet peeve of mine. SG typically seems to be behind the times, but not having the ability to order and pay from the website these days is pretty sad.</p>
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