Comments on: Quote of the day http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Wed, 23 May 2012 18:08:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: dmp http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-787611 dmp Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:44:42 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-787611 Marie, The problem I have with your statements is that you come from the belief that homosexuality is a sin, which I’m not arguing. But your plan of making fun of them and berating them with demeaning remarks until they repent is a very flawed strategy. I have many gay friends I could never invite to my church because of these kinds of statements. It is one thing to believe it is a sin, it is entirely another to let your homophobic nature guide your moral compass. Marie,
The problem I have with your statements is that you come from the belief that homosexuality is a sin, which I’m not arguing. But your plan of making fun of them and berating them with demeaning remarks until they repent is a very flawed strategy. I have many gay friends I could never invite to my church because of these kinds of statements. It is one thing to believe it is a sin, it is entirely another to let your homophobic nature guide your moral compass.

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-784027 Wade Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:49:04 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-784027 Hey Marie... I love Dr. DH and everything but if I were over seas I think I could find something better to do with my time than to post on a blog thread... but that just goes to show how sad your life is!!! lol Go spend time with those beautiful children and loving husband you have that should be keeping you busier!! But what will you do one day if one of them is gay??? There is a real good chance since you have 3 kids that one of them will be... I am just saying before you judge to much be careful it will bite ya!!! But to be clear I am Hetro no Homo and I bet you are a handful!! lol lol Hey Marie… I love Dr. DH and everything but if I were over seas I think I could find something better to do with my time than to post on a blog thread… but that just goes to show how sad your life is!!! lol

Go spend time with those beautiful children and loving husband you have that should be keeping you busier!!

But what will you do one day if one of them is gay??? There is a real good chance since you have 3 kids that one of them will be… I am just saying before you judge to much be careful it will bite ya!!!

But to be clear I am Hetro no Homo and I bet you are a handful!! lol lol

]]> By: JLL http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783283 JLL Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:58:13 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783283 My choices in television-watching have nothing to do with the state of my eternal soul and salvation, and I am well aware of that. I mentioned that because Marie seemed to be insinuating that all gay people are partying, bar-hopping, promiscuous sex maniacs, and I used my recap of a "thrilling" Saturday night to assure her that her assumptions are definitely not true in my case. I struggle more with the attitudes of others than I struggle with my own salvation. I feel quite secure in that. God bless. My choices in television-watching have nothing to do with the state of my eternal soul and salvation, and I am well aware of that. I mentioned that because Marie seemed to be insinuating that all gay people are partying, bar-hopping, promiscuous sex maniacs, and I used my recap of a “thrilling” Saturday night to assure her that her assumptions are definitely not true in my case.

I struggle more with the attitudes of others than I struggle with my own salvation. I feel quite secure in that. God bless.

]]> By: marie hardy http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783057 marie hardy Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:43:02 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783057 Wade and JLL, sorry for the typos. I´m overseas now and the keyboard is different here. I had two replys that came back. I prayed this one would go through. Please know that the love of Christ can change anyone who asks for change. Those who are content the way they are and feel no need for change don´t need a Savior. Just remember, God´s heart is moved by a humble and contrite spirit but He resists the proud and arrogant. God´s peace be with you today. Wade and JLL, sorry for the typos. I´m overseas now and the keyboard is different here. I had two replys that came back. I prayed this one would go through. Please know that the love of Christ can change anyone who asks for change. Those who are content the way they are and feel no need for change don´t need a Savior. Just remember, God´s heart is moved by a humble and contrite spirit but He resists the proud and arrogant. God´s peace be with you today.

]]> By: marie hardy http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783047 marie hardy Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:38:24 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783047 Wade, I find your comments insulting and presumptive. Interested in what? To presume that since you are gay, one of my children is probably gay, is very sad. It seems you are resigned to yourself and justify it all by saying probably your children will be like me too. Very sad. We all make choices in life. That´t the beauty of free will that God gives us. You have made some bad choices. However, today´s a new day. You can make the right choice today. JLL, I will be praying for you. It seems like you struggle with this. You have a family that I am sure is praying too. We all have our demons we struggle with. Mine are no less powerful than yours. I will pray for you in your fight against the powers that come against you. Paul said at the end of his life, " I have fought a good fight. I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness for those that love Him". It all boils down to this. Do you love Him more than you love your life? I pray you do. It will mean the difference in eternal bliss with Him or eternal separation from Him. I want to make my eternal home with my God who loves me so much. He loves you just as much as me. You are in my prayers. Thank you so much for your prayers for me. Wade, I find your comments insulting and presumptive. Interested in what? To presume that since you are gay, one of my children is probably gay, is very sad. It seems you are resigned to yourself and justify it all by saying probably your children will be like me too. Very sad. We all make choices in life. That´t the beauty of free will that God gives us. You have made some bad choices. However, today´s a new day. You can make the right choice today.
JLL, I will be praying for you. It seems like you struggle with this. You have a family that I am sure is praying too. We all have our demons we struggle with. Mine are no less powerful than yours. I will pray for you in your fight against the powers that come against you. Paul said at the end of his life, ” I have fought a good fight. I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness for those that love Him”. It all boils down to this. Do you love Him more than you love your life? I pray you do. It will mean the difference in eternal bliss with Him or eternal separation from Him. I want to make my eternal home with my God who loves me so much. He loves you just as much as me. You are in my prayers. Thank you so much for your prayers for me.

]]> By: tinamarie http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783001 tinamarie Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:06:09 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-783001 JLL, I appreciate your candor. I must say, if it is a heterosexual frequenting a bar looking for women or a homosexual looking for sex, they are BOTH wrong. This is Not God´s plan for a mutal loving relationship. This is pure, unadulterated LUST. Sinning no more is a tough one. But justifying sin because one was born that way, is no excuse. Everyone must fight his or her own demons. To just give in and use that excuse is really no excuse at all. I must say that watching the Gaither gospel is good, watching Lawrence Welk is ok. What does that have to do with your eternal soul and salvation? Music has always soothed the soul but it does not save us. Bowing your knee in submission to the risen Christ and saying Yes to His Lordship is what saves us. Dying to self makes you alive to Christ. Paul is very plain on this. Do you spend as much time in the scripture as you do watching Gaither on TV? I am glad you care enough to post but sad that you feel alienated. Everyone is welcome at the table of grace when we bow in submission to the Lordship of Christ. We are saying "Lord I love you more than my own self will and am willing to die to myself to gain your favor. He loves you more than you love yourself and desires a deep fellowship with you. HOWEVER, it can´t be on your terms. It has to be on His terms. He is the creator God. He sets up kings and puts down the proud and arrogant. I hope you know that I don´t condemn you. I have my own demons I deal with and fight this fight of faith every day. But you must fight it. Paul, at the end of his life said " I have fought the good fight and I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is a crown of righteousness laid up for me in heaven". I will pray for you in your fight and appreciate your prayers for me. I want to please my Lord more than anything else. He is such a good God and wants the very best for you and me. God bless you and give you power today to follow Him obediently. JLL, I appreciate your candor. I must say, if it is a heterosexual frequenting a bar looking for women or a homosexual looking for sex, they are BOTH wrong. This is Not God´s plan for a mutal loving relationship. This is pure, unadulterated LUST. Sinning no more is a tough one. But justifying sin because one was born that way, is no excuse. Everyone must fight his or her own demons. To just give in and use that excuse is really no excuse at all.
I must say that watching the Gaither gospel is good, watching Lawrence Welk is ok. What does that have to do with your eternal soul and salvation? Music has always soothed the soul but it does not save us. Bowing your knee in submission to the risen Christ and saying Yes to His Lordship is what saves us. Dying to self makes you alive to Christ. Paul is very plain on this. Do you spend as much time in the scripture as you do watching Gaither on TV?
I am glad you care enough to post but sad that you feel alienated. Everyone is welcome at the table of grace when we bow in submission to the Lordship of Christ. We are saying “Lord I love you more than my own self will and am willing to die to myself to gain your favor. He loves you more than you love yourself and desires a deep fellowship with you. HOWEVER, it can´t be on your terms. It has to be on His terms. He is the creator God. He sets up kings and puts down the proud and arrogant. I hope you know that I don´t condemn you. I have my own demons I deal with and fight this fight of faith every day. But you must fight it. Paul, at the end of his life said ” I have fought the good fight and I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is a crown of righteousness laid up for me in heaven”. I will pray for you in your fight and appreciate your prayers for me. I want to please my Lord more than anything else. He is such a good God and wants the very best for you and me. God bless you and give you power today to follow Him obediently.

]]> By: JLL http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782600 JLL Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:40:56 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782600 You know, I tried to take my own advice and just shut up, but I can't. Marie, I did find it amusing that because DMP and I challenged some of your generalizations about gays, you assumed we were gay ourselves ("So sorry to put you in that catagory"). I cannot speak for DMP, but in my case, yes, you're right...good call! Please don't believe everything about gay people that you read or see on television. Not all of us have rainbow flags flying from our houses. We don't all dress in drag or leather and parade down the street hoping to shock people such as yourself. As for gays frequenting "gay bars to pick up new lovers as they generally can never get enough..." I think that could apply to much of the bar-hopping, promiscuous heterosexual crowd as well. Sinning no more is probably tough for all of us, wouldn't you agree? It may comfort you to know that the night life and the gay bars are of no interest to me either. I read my Bible every day (along with my Corrie Ten Boom "Each New Day" devotional)! I spend each and every Saturday evening watching the "Gaither Gospel Hour" on RFD-TV! Immediately after that, there's another Gaither program on my local Public Television station! Then I watch Lawrence Welk, unless the Hoppers or the Perrys are on "Gospel Music Southern Style" on INSP! Woo hoo! Party on! As for why I am posting here--maybe you think I wouldn't or shouldn't be interested in reading a blog such as this, but I am. My family has deep roots in the church and in southern gospel, so it is a topic that interests me. I am interested in everyone's point of view, but when I read statements such as yours it saddens me and makes me feel alienated and rejected by the church and the faith I hold so dear. I do not feel it necessary to "enlighten Christians" but I guess I did feel it necessary to try to enlighten you. My apologies to you if you feel I crashed the party, and my apologies to the other posters for derailing the thread. I'll make you a deal, Marie--I'll pray for you, you pray for me! God bless. You know, I tried to take my own advice and just shut up, but I can’t.

Marie, I did find it amusing that because DMP and I challenged some of your generalizations about gays, you assumed we were gay ourselves (”So sorry to put you in that catagory”). I cannot speak for DMP, but in my case, yes, you’re right…good call!

Please don’t believe everything about gay people that you read or see on television. Not all of us have rainbow flags flying from our houses. We don’t all dress in drag or leather and parade down the street hoping to shock people such as yourself. As for gays frequenting “gay bars to pick up new lovers as they generally can never get enough…” I think that could apply to much of the bar-hopping, promiscuous heterosexual crowd as well. Sinning no more is probably tough for all of us, wouldn’t you agree? It may comfort you to know that the night life and the gay bars are of no interest to me either. I read my Bible every day (along with my Corrie Ten Boom “Each New Day” devotional)! I spend each and every Saturday evening watching the “Gaither Gospel Hour” on RFD-TV! Immediately after that, there’s another Gaither program on my local Public Television station! Then I watch Lawrence Welk, unless the Hoppers or the Perrys are on “Gospel Music Southern Style” on INSP! Woo hoo! Party on!

As for why I am posting here–maybe you think I wouldn’t or shouldn’t be interested in reading a blog such as this, but I am. My family has deep roots in the church and in southern gospel, so it is a topic that interests me. I am interested in everyone’s point of view, but when I read statements such as yours it saddens me and makes me feel alienated and rejected by the church and the faith I hold so dear. I do not feel it necessary to “enlighten Christians” but I guess I did feel it necessary to try to enlighten you. My apologies to you if you feel I crashed the party, and my apologies to the other posters for derailing the thread. I’ll make you a deal, Marie–I’ll pray for you, you pray for me! God bless.

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782432 Wade Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:23:27 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782432 Marie... I'd turn down the smart ass a little it will come back and bite ya... if you have 3 kids there's a real good chance one of them will be gay!! Plus while you are showing your ignorance you seem to be VERY INTERESTED!!! lol I know gay couples that have been together 20 + years. They are no more inclined to, "generally can never get enough", than MANY Hetro's. Who also frequent bars & churches on their SEARCH for MORE... bet a few are even in that church you go to... they might even also be, "like believers in the risen Christ." Marie… I’d turn down the smart ass a little it will come back and bite ya… if you have 3 kids there’s a real good chance one of them will be gay!!

Plus while you are showing your ignorance you seem to be VERY INTERESTED!!! lol

I know gay couples that have been together 20 + years. They are no more inclined to, “generally can never get enough”, than MANY Hetro’s. Who also frequent bars & churches on their SEARCH for MORE… bet a few are even in that church you go to… they might even also be, “like believers in the risen Christ.”

]]> By: marie hardy http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782294 marie hardy Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:49:16 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782294 DMP and JLL, thank you for enlightening me on the proclivities of gay men. I simply had no idea. I am not around gay people, so their night life and their gay bars are simply of no interest to me. I attend church on Sunday where I fellowship with like believers in the risen Christ. You know, the one who said to the woman caught in adultery, "Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more". It´s that last statement that is kind of a tough one for gays I would think. I was assuming what I had read a few times that many gays frequent gay bars to pick up new lovers as they generally can never get enough. That may not be true for you. So sorry to put you in that catagory. By the way, why are you posting on here anyway? Do you feel it necessary to enlighten Christians? Is it more noble if you have but one lover you live with and perhaps wish to marry? Oh, and by the way, I went the conventional route. I married and have three wonderful children. I don´t know. I just had this notion that when God said "Be fruitful and multiply", that was His will and plan and that´s what He meant. That´s just an aside but something gays simply can´t do without the help of some hetersexual along the way. DMP and JLL, thank you for enlightening me on the proclivities of gay men. I simply had no idea. I am not around gay people, so their night life and their gay bars are simply of no interest to me. I attend church on Sunday where I fellowship with like believers in the risen Christ. You know, the one who said to the woman caught in adultery, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more”. It´s that last statement that is kind of a tough one for gays I would think.
I was assuming what I had read a few times that many gays frequent gay bars to pick up new lovers as they generally can never get enough. That may not be true for you. So sorry to put you in that catagory. By the way, why are you posting on here anyway? Do you feel it necessary to enlighten Christians? Is it more noble if you have but one lover you live with and perhaps wish to marry?
Oh, and by the way, I went the conventional route. I married and have three wonderful children. I don´t know. I just had this notion that when God said “Be fruitful and multiply”, that was His will and plan and that´s what He meant. That´s just an aside but something gays simply can´t do without the help of some hetersexual along the way.

]]> By: cynical one http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782278 cynical one Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:33:10 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-782278 Would these comments about gay men in the fox hole be any more valid than straight men and women servicing together in the fox hole? Just wondering. Would these comments about gay men in the fox hole be any more valid than straight men and women servicing together in the fox hole?

Just wondering.

]]> By: DMP http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-781215 DMP Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:31:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-781215 Why is it Marie that you assume all gay men are attracted to every man they see? Are you? Why is it Marie that you assume all gay men are attracted to every man they see? Are you?

]]> By: JLL http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-781020 JLL Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:50:42 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-781020 Why, Marie? So that I can make broad generalizations about gay people as you have done? No, thank you. Every gay person is different from the others, as is every heterosexual person. Besides, a very wise (and VERY politically incorrect) once told me that picking a fight on the internet is like [edit]. God bless. Why, Marie? So that I can make broad generalizations about gay people as you have done? No, thank you. Every gay person is different from the others, as is every heterosexual person.

Besides, a very wise (and VERY politically incorrect) once told me that picking a fight on the internet is like [edit]. God bless.

]]> By: marie hardy http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780836 marie hardy Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:30:07 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780836 JLL, tell me about gay people, please since you seem to know so much. JLL, tell me about gay people, please since you seem to know so much.

]]> By: Wade http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780133 Wade Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:19:36 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780133 JLL... thanks for chiming in... but beware they fuddies don't like it when you call BS on them!! But welcome to the hate club... it is really funny!!! Just watch'em!! JLL… thanks for chiming in… but beware they fuddies don’t like it when you call BS on them!! But welcome to the hate club… it is really funny!!! Just watch’em!!

]]> By: JLL http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780090 JLL Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:23:22 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/01/16/quote-of-the-day-18/#comment-780090 The other party always makes life miserable for whatever party is in office, don't they? Conservative Republicans didn't stop bashing Clinton from Whitewater to Lewinsky, and the Liberals did the same thing to George W. Bush. Until we all can come together and work for the common good, nothing will ever change. "Just what do you think that will do to morale when the soldier in a foxhole or close quarters with an openly gay partner who is more interested in him than in fighting Al Queda?" Oh, Marie! That statement is clear evidence that you know nothing about gay people whatsoever. To jump to the conclusion that a gay soldier will be interested in just ANYONE of the same sex is ludicrous and demeaning--not to mention downright ignorant. What a pity that you cannot hope for the best, pray for our new administration and bring something positive to the discussion. "Bitter--party of one? Your table is ready!!!" The other party always makes life miserable for whatever party is in office, don’t they? Conservative Republicans didn’t stop bashing Clinton from Whitewater to Lewinsky, and the Liberals did the same thing to George W. Bush. Until we all can come together and work for the common good, nothing will ever change.

“Just what do you think that will do to morale when the soldier in a foxhole or close quarters with an openly gay partner who is more interested in him than in fighting Al Queda?”

Oh, Marie! That statement is clear evidence that you know nothing about gay people whatsoever. To jump to the conclusion that a gay soldier will be interested in just ANYONE of the same sex is ludicrous and demeaning–not to mention downright ignorant.

What a pity that you cannot hope for the best, pray for our new administration and bring something positive to the discussion.

“Bitter–party of one? Your table is ready!!!”

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