Comments on: Moderation http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Wed, 23 May 2012 18:15:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: wackythinker http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-804834 wackythinker Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:23:56 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-804834 DMP -- "Heavy moderation" sounds like an oxymoron, to me. "All things in moderation, including moderation." DMP — “Heavy moderation” sounds like an oxymoron, to me.

“All things in moderation, including moderation.”

]]> By: DMP http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-803078 DMP Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:45:38 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-803078 Heavy moderation will always breed bias, no matter how careful you are… Heavy moderation will always breed bias, no matter how careful you are…

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-802949 quartet-man Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:22:54 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-802949 #4 Stormy said "I am proud to be a American, where at least I know I’m free" There ought to be a song written about that. ;-) #4 Stormy said “I am proud to be a American, where at least I know I’m free”

There ought to be a song written about that. ;-)

]]> By: Stormy http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-802004 Stormy Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:44:36 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-802004 The thoughts and writings of DH brings out the mind set and emotions in people. Including me. I may not agree with or even like what a poster is saying, (it's not personal, because I don't know (or care) who they are. However, I am proud to be a American, where at least I know I'm free The thoughts and writings of DH brings out the mind set and emotions in people. Including me. I may not agree with or even like what a poster is saying, (it’s not personal, because I don’t know (or care) who they are. However, I am proud to be a American, where at least I know I’m free

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801819 quartet-man Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:56:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801819 RF, I am a music director and lover, and yes I enjoy listening etc. This site is predominately geared towards the music. I get that. I can go along with that. I understand that rating the lack of quality of the music of the most sincere Christians in the world is okay. However, when all is said and done, your quote is not true (at least not if taken literally.) The quote I am referring to is "It's the music that matters." If you are talking about when buying a CD or going to a concert the quality of music is important, not if you agree with every point of theology, okay. But in the end, when all else is gone, His word is what is important and one's standing with Him. Not how good the performance is. That doesn't mean I will say a performance is great when it stinks (just because the performer is sincere.) However by the same token if I hear a great technical performance, but the person isn't sincere although I can appreciate how well done it is, and although the words they sing may well minister to me and be real, it will be hard to see past the hypocrisy of the performer on another level. With that said, I can appreciate a good performance of a country singer or someone who sings a gospel song who may not be Christian, it doesn't earn them a ticket to Heaven of course. The words they sing are still true, and if God's word is in it it will not return void, but the person's witness is not strong. So, ideally we would have both. One without the other is less than great. RF, I am a music director and lover, and yes I enjoy listening etc. This site is predominately geared towards the music. I get that. I can go along with that. I understand that rating the lack of quality of the music of the most sincere Christians in the world is okay. However, when all is said and done, your quote is not true (at least not if taken literally.) The quote I am referring to is “It’s the music that matters.” If you are talking about when buying a CD or going to a concert the quality of music is important, not if you agree with every point of theology, okay. But in the end, when all else is gone, His word is what is important and one’s standing with Him. Not how good the performance is.
That doesn’t mean I will say a performance is great when it stinks (just because the performer is sincere.) However by the same token if I hear a great technical performance, but the person isn’t sincere although I can appreciate how well done it is, and although the words they sing may well minister to me and be real, it will be hard to see past the hypocrisy of the performer on another level.

With that said, I can appreciate a good performance of a country singer or someone who sings a gospel song who may not be Christian, it doesn’t earn them a ticket to Heaven of course. The words they sing are still true, and if God’s word is in it it will not return void, but the person’s witness is not strong.

So, ideally we would have both. One without the other is less than great.

]]> By: RF http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801539 RF Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:38:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801539 I really don't think you can effectively moderate a site such as this. Everyone has their opinions when it comes to most everything these day and few are too shy to express them. I think what gets people off track is that they do not understand the purpose, as stated by the owner, of the site. Many take issue with true music criticism (witness the Archie Watkins conversation elsewhere in this blog). The purpose as stated early was that this was "sg for the rest of us." Yep, those of us who see faults and want the quality of the music to be better than it is. So much for that. So, instead of discussing the quality of the music and what is good and bad, we get people quoting scripture and pontificating on whether or not our fearless leader is a Christian or not, which is totally unacceptable to me. It's the music that matters. I want to see the good stuff rise to the top always. I hope the personal stuff can be left on the lawn from now on, but I know I'm dreaming. I spent too many nights as cousin Rosalie argued with my Dad on what was proper for a gospel quartet to do when performing. The Bibles would come out and the argument went far into the dark night. It was horrible. ' As for the comments, I guess that's what brings all those people who hate the site come back. I can't imagine why else they would come here. I don't go to places I don't like, but I guess I'm different. I really don’t think you can effectively moderate a site such as this. Everyone has their opinions when it comes to most everything these day and few are too shy to express them.

I think what gets people off track is that they do not understand the purpose, as stated by the owner, of the site. Many take issue with true music criticism (witness the Archie Watkins conversation elsewhere in this blog). The purpose as stated early was that this was “sg for the rest of us.” Yep, those of us who see faults and want the quality of the music to be better than it is. So much for that.

So, instead of discussing the quality of the music and what is good and bad, we get people quoting scripture and pontificating on whether or not our fearless leader is a Christian or not, which is totally unacceptable to me. It’s the music that matters. I want to see the good stuff rise to the top always. I hope the personal stuff can be left on the lawn from now on, but I know I’m dreaming. I spent too many nights as cousin Rosalie argued with my Dad on what was proper for a gospel quartet to do when performing. The Bibles would come out and the argument went far into the dark night. It was horrible.
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As for the comments, I guess that’s what brings all those people who hate the site come back. I can’t imagine why else they would come here. I don’t go to places I don’t like, but I guess I’m different.

]]> By: NG http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801532 NG Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:25:18 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/02/09/moderation/#comment-801532 Deciding which posts to allow is a difficult decision on all these types of boards. Before all the southern gospel boards came along, I use to post on a SGM newsgroup with no moderation by anyone. It got out of hand and became boring to me. Then some forums on SGM came along with lots of moderation. Averyfineline falls someone where in between the wide open newsgroup and the tightly moderated forums. I'm OK with that. I don't like some posts but then some posters have noted they don't like some of mine. I could do without the bashing of artists as I've found most SGM folks, even the biggest names, to be fairly accessible if you have something reasonable to discuss with them. Deciding which posts to allow is a difficult decision on all these types of boards.

Before all the southern gospel boards came along, I use to post on a SGM newsgroup with no moderation by anyone. It got out of hand and became boring to me.

Then some forums on SGM came along with lots of moderation. Averyfineline falls someone where in between the wide open newsgroup and the tightly moderated forums. I’m OK with that.

I don’t like some posts but then some posters have noted they don’t like some of mine. I could do without the bashing of artists as I’ve found most SGM folks, even the biggest names, to be fairly accessible if you have something reasonable to discuss with them.

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