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	<title>Comments on: The Kingly Golden Genius of Jim Hamill</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 18:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MIke McIlwain</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-881282</link>
		<dc:creator>MIke McIlwain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't forget that some of Big Jim's best singing was during his tenure with the Rebels.  Check out the YouTube clips of him singing "Hide Thou Me," "When I Stand with God," and "I Want to Get Closer."  Jim had power when he sang, but he could also sing a very high, smooth lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that some of Big Jim&#8217;s best singing was during his tenure with the Rebels.  Check out the YouTube clips of him singing &#8220;Hide Thou Me,&#8221; &#8220;When I Stand with God,&#8221; and &#8220;I Want to Get Closer.&#8221;  Jim had power when he sang, but he could also sing a very high, smooth lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-880450</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>51 cdguy... he's coming for the doves but not for the SGMA... huh ...well ya know he left a Gaither Gathering at Intermission...so there ya go!!! 

He will be down in printers alley with Irish Laddy &#38; Old Harry Peters...can't wait for twitters and reviews from there... should be interesting!!! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>51 cdguy&#8230; he&#8217;s coming for the doves but not for the SGMA&#8230; huh &#8230;well ya know he left a Gaither Gathering at Intermission&#8230;so there ya go!!! </p>
<p>He will be down in printers alley with Irish Laddy &amp; Old Harry Peters&#8230;can&#8217;t wait for twitters and reviews from there&#8230; should be interesting!!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-879959</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade -- As for Dr DH not being here, according to another thread here, there's both good news and bad news.  He's here today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade &#8212; As for Dr DH not being here, according to another thread here, there&#8217;s both good news and bad news.  He&#8217;s here today.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-879352</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ToddT... You are correct the Brian/ Ivan/ Steve/ Tim version of Gold City was the best technically...would have been interesting to hear if Mike could have had the chops to make that acapella recording.

Had the same thought after I wrote my entry. But it was so short very few ppl remember. 

Hi To ALL MY friends in Nashville... how are y'all getting along with out Dr. DH???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ToddT&#8230; You are correct the Brian/ Ivan/ Steve/ Tim version of Gold City was the best technically&#8230;would have been interesting to hear if Mike could have had the chops to make that acapella recording.</p>
<p>Had the same thought after I wrote my entry. But it was so short very few ppl remember. </p>
<p>Hi To ALL MY friends in Nashville&#8230; how are y&#8217;all getting along with out Dr. DH???</p>
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		<title>By: ToddT</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-879066</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody has mentioned Gold City Alum, Steve Lacey.  I thought the band was the best on the Pillars of Faith album which was Brian Free, Ivan, Steve Lacey and Tim.  They also did an a capella cd before ivan and brian left that is still the best of its kind I've ever heard.  Then as the quartet transitioned to Jay, Steve, Mark and Tim they were still great.  Steve Lacey in my opinion is a better singer than any lead they've had since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody has mentioned Gold City Alum, Steve Lacey.  I thought the band was the best on the Pillars of Faith album which was Brian Free, Ivan, Steve Lacey and Tim.  They also did an a capella cd before ivan and brian left that is still the best of its kind I&#8217;ve ever heard.  Then as the quartet transitioned to Jay, Steve, Mark and Tim they were still great.  Steve Lacey in my opinion is a better singer than any lead they&#8217;ve had since.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-878438</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38, I need to start looking at the color of the moon. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38, I need to start looking at the color of the moon. <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tjeerd</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-878011</link>
		<dc:creator>Tjeerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-878011</guid>
		<description>A lot of talent in that room we miss,
Big Jim, Anthony Burger, Parker Jonathon.
etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of talent in that room we miss,<br />
Big Jim, Anthony Burger, Parker Jonathon.<br />
etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Stevens</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-876359</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-876359</guid>
		<description>Saw Gold City in Tulsa Saturday night with the Band Of Gold. The band brought back some great memories and made things come alive. They closed the package show that included the Mckameys, Mark Trammell Trio, Karen Peck and Jeff And Sheri Easter. I hope Daniel is reading here. The boys sounded great. I am in the secular radio business, but i host a Gospel show on our country station. I have delt with Daniel before at the table trying to get some music that i didn't have on file. Let me say he was the most gracious of people i have encountered in the bizz. He was very helpful, and wanted to make sure Gold City's music was being played. He is a credit to the industry and how people should handle themselves. Alot of good singing in Tulsa this last weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw Gold City in Tulsa Saturday night with the Band Of Gold. The band brought back some great memories and made things come alive. They closed the package show that included the Mckameys, Mark Trammell Trio, Karen Peck and Jeff And Sheri Easter. I hope Daniel is reading here. The boys sounded great. I am in the secular radio business, but i host a Gospel show on our country station. I have delt with Daniel before at the table trying to get some music that i didn&#8217;t have on file. Let me say he was the most gracious of people i have encountered in the bizz. He was very helpful, and wanted to make sure Gold City&#8217;s music was being played. He is a credit to the industry and how people should handle themselves. Alot of good singing in Tulsa this last weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-875717</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-875717</guid>
		<description>#17 Jim, Aaron impressed me that night too after he got warmed up. There was a post I made about it on some of the boards. However, he has gotten a lot better and I think even back then he would make a lot of bass singers work hard. I too wonder just how great he will be once he hits 50. Man. He might be one of the best ever.

Irishlad, actually Richard hits an Eb on Working on a Building. :) George Younce also hit that note on a Johnny Cash song I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 Jim, Aaron impressed me that night too after he got warmed up. There was a post I made about it on some of the boards. However, he has gotten a lot better and I think even back then he would make a lot of bass singers work hard. I too wonder just how great he will be once he hits 50. Man. He might be one of the best ever.</p>
<p>Irishlad, actually Richard hits an Eb on Working on a Building. <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> George Younce also hit that note on a Johnny Cash song I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-874707</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade-

I still think K/I/M/T were the best 4 for GC. However, the J/J/M/T and the J/J/D/T quartets were almost as good.

I opened one night for the group #3 above, and they were fantastic. Tim, that night, gave the best gospel message in 7 minutes I have ever heard from a sgm stage. He was unbelievable.

Ernie Phillips is a tremendous talent. I have also shared the same program as him (now as a soloist), and he is a gentleman. His son Eric (MTT) is, imho, an even better tenor.

Chris Collins was also as good a tenor as the Kingsmen ever had.

As to the Goodmans, I really don't know. You know how I feel about that whole scenario- and the HGF will have to answer for themselves. They could be vindictive, but they were proud people.

Jim Hamill was a spiritual man, a straight shooter, and very conservative- many of that ilk, and in that generation, had a problem with alot the Oaks said and did, and how they lived. Each will give an account of themselves to God.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade-</p>
<p>I still think K/I/M/T were the best 4 for GC. However, the J/J/M/T and the J/J/D/T quartets were almost as good.</p>
<p>I opened one night for the group #3 above, and they were fantastic. Tim, that night, gave the best gospel message in 7 minutes I have ever heard from a sgm stage. He was unbelievable.</p>
<p>Ernie Phillips is a tremendous talent. I have also shared the same program as him (now as a soloist), and he is a gentleman. His son Eric (MTT) is, imho, an even better tenor.</p>
<p>Chris Collins was also as good a tenor as the Kingsmen ever had.</p>
<p>As to the Goodmans, I really don&#8217;t know. You know how I feel about that whole scenario- and the HGF will have to answer for themselves. They could be vindictive, but they were proud people.</p>
<p>Jim Hamill was a spiritual man, a straight shooter, and very conservative- many of that ilk, and in that generation, had a problem with alot the Oaks said and did, and how they lived. Each will give an account of themselves to God.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-874108</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert... we almost agree but rethink just for  sec... don't ya think Jay, Jonathan, Mark &#38; Tim were closest or maybe just the BEST of anything other combo than Brian, Ivan etc???  I thought at the time that Mark &#38; Tim would be the next Glenn &#38; George.

They were different than Brian, Ivan, Mike &#38; Tim... and when I said before that Jay was a screamin' tenor I meant NO DISRSPECT...I loved Kingsmen Screaming Tenors... Jay (although never a Kingmen) had the guts to go places other ppl just dreamed about and wasn't too skeered to miss it and slide down to something.

Ernie Phillips will always be my favorite Kingsmen Tenor with Squeaky being next. Squeaky had his own niche.

Irish Laddy, CVH, Old Harry Peters &#38; dr joe... what do you think?? (&#38; any others) Oh &#38; dr. joe... We know you never left. ;-)))  I prayed for you while you were gone that you would get a touch of SWEET SPIRIT!! Now if sg fan could play nice with others!! :-)

While this is Technically a Kingsmen thread about Jim Hamill &#38; dr. joe chimed in let me address a subject that many ppl have surprisingly wrote me off line or in person instead of here for what ever reason... but they asked me...

"With your feelings about how The Goodman's did the Oaks, how do you swing liking Jim because he caused them some trouble too!!!"

That always bothered me some because I just really respected what he (Hamill) did with The Kingsmen as far as putting other talent over and being the Best MC EVER!! 

Even if I did think his line that JD loved so much... "Let's give Jesus a BiG Hand" was about as hackencheap as a stand up comic saying to a crowd... "Let's  give it up for the Fighting Men and Women in The Middle East."

But my buddy Jeff Hullender played bass with Gold City and I went to many of those joint dates [KingsGold]... and I got to talk to him about it one night in knoxville. Yes Red Man and ALL...would you believe too we were in the Knoxville Colusium Theater while pro rasslin' was going on in Colusium and we were over there with Jerry THE KING Lawler. Between matches he told me how much he regretted his part in it and how WRONG it was...{he still had some bitterness at the time of the incident about how things ended with him and the Oaks when he sang with them}... a few months later The Kingsmen sang on The Grand Ole Opry and then later with The Gatlin's in Las Vegas!! LoL;-)))

Funniest thing is Goodman's did many of the same things later as far as singing with George Jones and in some secular places... but they NEVER APOLOGIZED!! 

Don't ya think they SHOULD HAVE???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert&#8230; we almost agree but rethink just for  sec&#8230; don&#8217;t ya think Jay, Jonathan, Mark &amp; Tim were closest or maybe just the BEST of anything other combo than Brian, Ivan etc???  I thought at the time that Mark &amp; Tim would be the next Glenn &amp; George.</p>
<p>They were different than Brian, Ivan, Mike &amp; Tim&#8230; and when I said before that Jay was a screamin&#8217; tenor I meant NO DISRSPECT&#8230;I loved Kingsmen Screaming Tenors&#8230; Jay (although never a Kingmen) had the guts to go places other ppl just dreamed about and wasn&#8217;t too skeered to miss it and slide down to something.</p>
<p>Ernie Phillips will always be my favorite Kingsmen Tenor with Squeaky being next. Squeaky had his own niche.</p>
<p>Irish Laddy, CVH, Old Harry Peters &amp; dr joe&#8230; what do you think?? (&amp; any others) Oh &amp; dr. joe&#8230; We know you never left. ;-)))  I prayed for you while you were gone that you would get a touch of SWEET SPIRIT!! Now if sg fan could play nice with others!! <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>While this is Technically a Kingsmen thread about Jim Hamill &amp; dr. joe chimed in let me address a subject that many ppl have surprisingly wrote me off line or in person instead of here for what ever reason&#8230; but they asked me&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;With your feelings about how The Goodman&#8217;s did the Oaks, how do you swing liking Jim because he caused them some trouble too!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>That always bothered me some because I just really respected what he (Hamill) did with The Kingsmen as far as putting other talent over and being the Best MC EVER!! </p>
<p>Even if I did think his line that JD loved so much&#8230; &#8220;Let&#8217;s give Jesus a BiG Hand&#8221; was about as hackencheap as a stand up comic saying to a crowd&#8230; &#8220;Let&#8217;s  give it up for the Fighting Men and Women in The Middle East.&#8221;</p>
<p>But my buddy Jeff Hullender played bass with Gold City and I went to many of those joint dates [KingsGold]&#8230; and I got to talk to him about it one night in knoxville. Yes Red Man and ALL&#8230;would you believe too we were in the Knoxville Colusium Theater while pro rasslin&#8217; was going on in Colusium and we were over there with Jerry THE KING Lawler. Between matches he told me how much he regretted his part in it and how WRONG it was&#8230;{he still had some bitterness at the time of the incident about how things ended with him and the Oaks when he sang with them}&#8230; a few months later The Kingsmen sang on The Grand Ole Opry and then later with The Gatlin&#8217;s in Las Vegas!! LoL;-)))</p>
<p>Funniest thing is Goodman&#8217;s did many of the same things later as far as singing with George Jones and in some secular places&#8230; but they NEVER APOLOGIZED!! </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ya think they SHOULD HAVE???</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-873388</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as everyone is giving their GC opinions I'll give mine too. GC will never be as good as they were with Ivan, Mike, Brian, and Tim. In my opinion probably the best quartet of all time. I believe the closest they ever got was Daniel, Jonathan, Steve, and Aaron. Especially on the Revival CD. Like someone else said, the present group lacks personality. Sure Jonathan wasn't the voice like Ivan, but he brought personality. When he left he took it with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as everyone is giving their GC opinions I&#8217;ll give mine too. GC will never be as good as they were with Ivan, Mike, Brian, and Tim. In my opinion probably the best quartet of all time. I believe the closest they ever got was Daniel, Jonathan, Steve, and Aaron. Especially on the Revival CD. Like someone else said, the present group lacks personality. Sure Jonathan wasn&#8217;t the voice like Ivan, but he brought personality. When he left he took it with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-873303</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was Mark Fain on bass guitar.</description>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-873070</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just pray for me!!! lol</description>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/04/11/the-kingly-golden-genius-of-jim-hamill/#comment-872565</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,you'll be giving Wade a big head if you don't watch out! Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,you&#8217;ll be giving Wade a big head if you don&#8217;t watch out! Lol.</p>
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