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	<title>Comments on: There you are</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-1229991</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-1229991</guid>
		<description>Some of the UGLY comments that people have said about Kim Hopper are down right uncalled for! You may not like her as an intertainer in Gospel Music, and you may not like the way she delivers a song on stage.  But to go as far as throwing off on the way she looks, or what she has had done or what she's gonna have done, may call for you yourself to take a good hard look in the mirror to see what you may need to improve on! And I can assure you, You do need some work! Like I do or the next Tom, Dick or Harry!!
Just be honest with your selfs, She's an awesome singer, one of the very best in the buisness, and in MANY eyes THE BEST! Gospel Music is about delivering the word of God in Music. It looks like many have made it like everyother type of music, WHO'S THE BEST!! PUT ONE DOWN, TO MAKE ANOTHER LOOK GOOD! Regardless on what their singing about! And that is,...God our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the UGLY comments that people have said about Kim Hopper are down right uncalled for! You may not like her as an intertainer in Gospel Music, and you may not like the way she delivers a song on stage.  But to go as far as throwing off on the way she looks, or what she has had done or what she&#8217;s gonna have done, may call for you yourself to take a good hard look in the mirror to see what you may need to improve on! And I can assure you, You do need some work! Like I do or the next Tom, Dick or Harry!!<br />
Just be honest with your selfs, She&#8217;s an awesome singer, one of the very best in the buisness, and in MANY eyes THE BEST! Gospel Music is about delivering the word of God in Music. It looks like many have made it like everyother type of music, WHO&#8217;S THE BEST!! PUT ONE DOWN, TO MAKE ANOTHER LOOK GOOD! Regardless on what their singing about! And that is,&#8230;God our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-1101045</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-1101045</guid>
		<description>WOW!! I just found this blog and I am flabbergasted..lol.  I just have one thing to say to these folks talking about Kim. Whether she has had work done or not...If you were in front of hundreds of audiences year round..wouldn't you want to present yourself well. I mean, if there's something that you don't like about yourself and it's bothering you, and you have the means to fix it..then by all means DO IT!! Some people care about what they look like and that's not a crime. Just don't be vain about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!! I just found this blog and I am flabbergasted..lol.  I just have one thing to say to these folks talking about Kim. Whether she has had work done or not&#8230;If you were in front of hundreds of audiences year round..wouldn&#8217;t you want to present yourself well. I mean, if there&#8217;s something that you don&#8217;t like about yourself and it&#8217;s bothering you, and you have the means to fix it..then by all means DO IT!! Some people care about what they look like and that&#8217;s not a crime. Just don&#8217;t be vain about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919788</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919788</guid>
		<description>Let's get all these women in a cage match at NQC...irishlad may even come over for that.</description>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919710</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919710</guid>
		<description>JessicaLynn,
Thank you for the honor of being called Kim's top defender.  I think she is marvelous, onstage and off.  As far as  criticizing those who wish to tear her down without cause or merit, I will continue to do that with or without your permission.  As you said, they don't care what I think and I couldn't care less what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JessicaLynn,<br />
Thank you for the honor of being called Kim&#8217;s top defender.  I think she is marvelous, onstage and off.  As far as  criticizing those who wish to tear her down without cause or merit, I will continue to do that with or without your permission.  As you said, they don&#8217;t care what I think and I couldn&#8217;t care less what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: LewisWells</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919625</link>
		<dc:creator>LewisWells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919625</guid>
		<description>I second the props to John. He nailed the vibe and emotion of the song, played an extremely tasteful track, and John is one of the nicest guys in the business to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the props to John. He nailed the vibe and emotion of the song, played an extremely tasteful track, and John is one of the nicest guys in the business to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919559</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919559</guid>
		<description>I want to echo what Luke said about TaRanda being a class act, she is an amazing singer and performer...her newest solo cd "In The Sanctuary" is flawless and one of the best projects I have heard in a very long time. With that said I want to also say that I too love and enjoy the music and performance of Kim Hopper, cosmetics has nothing to do with who's the better singer, and truth be told it doesn't matter because it's all personal preference... In the end all that matters is that this music glorifies God and points people to Him.

Also want to give props to John Jeffrey (the pianist for The Greenes) who played piano on the track for "There You Are" great guy, great talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to echo what Luke said about TaRanda being a class act, she is an amazing singer and performer&#8230;her newest solo cd &#8220;In The Sanctuary&#8221; is flawless and one of the best projects I have heard in a very long time. With that said I want to also say that I too love and enjoy the music and performance of Kim Hopper, cosmetics has nothing to do with who&#8217;s the better singer, and truth be told it doesn&#8217;t matter because it&#8217;s all personal preference&#8230; In the end all that matters is that this music glorifies God and points people to Him.</p>
<p>Also want to give props to John Jeffrey (the pianist for The Greenes) who played piano on the track for &#8220;There You Are&#8221; great guy, great talent.</p>
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		<title>By: LewisWells</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919360</link>
		<dc:creator>LewisWells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919360</guid>
		<description>Being that I have fairly intimate knowledge of all three subjects broached in this thread of comments...

Wow.

Yes. TaRanda is awesome. I was fortunate to do the majority of the piano/keyboard work on her first two solo records and several Greenes records. I consider her a mega-talent and a good friend.

I've also worked on a couple of Young Harmony's records, and had nothing but good experiences with them. Very decent people whom I consider friends and still exchange contact with from time to time.

I've also spent several years on a bus with Kim Hopper, and I'm not appreciative of people with limited knowledge (or perhaps zero knowledge) of issues making statements that tear down people I care for. If you don't like her singing, well, fair enough. But this nonsense about numerous cosmetic surgeries and facelifts is over the line. Kim has missed dates from illness, from the complications with Lexy's delivery, and from being invited to Gaither shoots to showcase her solo work. Every member of the group has missed dates. Claude and Connie with the passing of family members or personal medical procedures and issues. Mike and Dean with illness or with other business obligations. Roy Webb filled in for me on a couple of occasions when I had personal business to attend to. Stop reading into it what you might WANT to read into it.

Choosing between Kim and Taranda is, for most of us, like choosing which Ferrari we would prefer to drive. My word, just enjoy the talents of them both and stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole by determining which one's better.

There have been a few comments on this site by people very obviously "in the know", and Doug obviously has some connections that give him solid information on a lot of issues whether I agree with his take or not, but many/most of the people who comment on his posts who either claim directly or by inference to be "in the know" actually know jack-squat.

Just enjoy the music, people. If you don't, then listen to something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being that I have fairly intimate knowledge of all three subjects broached in this thread of comments&#8230;</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Yes. TaRanda is awesome. I was fortunate to do the majority of the piano/keyboard work on her first two solo records and several Greenes records. I consider her a mega-talent and a good friend.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also worked on a couple of Young Harmony&#8217;s records, and had nothing but good experiences with them. Very decent people whom I consider friends and still exchange contact with from time to time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also spent several years on a bus with Kim Hopper, and I&#8217;m not appreciative of people with limited knowledge (or perhaps zero knowledge) of issues making statements that tear down people I care for. If you don&#8217;t like her singing, well, fair enough. But this nonsense about numerous cosmetic surgeries and facelifts is over the line. Kim has missed dates from illness, from the complications with Lexy&#8217;s delivery, and from being invited to Gaither shoots to showcase her solo work. Every member of the group has missed dates. Claude and Connie with the passing of family members or personal medical procedures and issues. Mike and Dean with illness or with other business obligations. Roy Webb filled in for me on a couple of occasions when I had personal business to attend to. Stop reading into it what you might WANT to read into it.</p>
<p>Choosing between Kim and Taranda is, for most of us, like choosing which Ferrari we would prefer to drive. My word, just enjoy the talents of them both and stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole by determining which one&#8217;s better.</p>
<p>There have been a few comments on this site by people very obviously &#8220;in the know&#8221;, and Doug obviously has some connections that give him solid information on a lot of issues whether I agree with his take or not, but many/most of the people who comment on his posts who either claim directly or by inference to be &#8220;in the know&#8221; actually know jack-squat.</p>
<p>Just enjoy the music, people. If you don&#8217;t, then listen to something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919321</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919321</guid>
		<description>TaRanda Greene is in a class all her own. IMO Nobody can touch the hem of her garment. She is a Class act with a set of Lungs. Kim Hopper is also and incredible singer and performer, Cut her some slack people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TaRanda Greene is in a class all her own. IMO Nobody can touch the hem of her garment. She is a Class act with a set of Lungs. Kim Hopper is also and incredible singer and performer, Cut her some slack people!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919299</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919299</guid>
		<description>TaRanda Greene Rocks!! Shes probably the most unbelievable female to ever sing a song. Especially a SG song. Shes so much better than the norm. Great heart too..

Kim Hopper is also incredible. The woman can deliver a song like nobody else. I love watching her sing too. For those of you that wanna criticize work she has had done...etc etc.. SO WHAT?!! who cares. Shes a hot middle aged woman!! And yes Hot in a Christian way. haha :-) I think her extensions and hair tossing, make up and lip injections are a class act. Nobody talks about Dolly when she does it. haha So Go for it Kim. All these other ladies are just jealous. I say keep gettin the lips pumped and keep getting the stomach tucked, botox should be every womans best friend. Start lookin natural and ill look away....Kim has got it goin on. Class act. Dont hate on the women that can afford all that work. get a life people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TaRanda Greene Rocks!! Shes probably the most unbelievable female to ever sing a song. Especially a SG song. Shes so much better than the norm. Great heart too..</p>
<p>Kim Hopper is also incredible. The woman can deliver a song like nobody else. I love watching her sing too. For those of you that wanna criticize work she has had done&#8230;etc etc.. SO WHAT?!! who cares. Shes a hot middle aged woman!! And yes Hot in a Christian way. haha <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I think her extensions and hair tossing, make up and lip injections are a class act. Nobody talks about Dolly when she does it. haha So Go for it Kim. All these other ladies are just jealous. I say keep gettin the lips pumped and keep getting the stomach tucked, botox should be every womans best friend. Start lookin natural and ill look away&#8230;.Kim has got it goin on. Class act. Dont hate on the women that can afford all that work. get a life people!</p>
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		<title>By: JessicaLynn</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919282</link>
		<dc:creator>JessicaLynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919282</guid>
		<description>Amanda-
Since this is a free country; don't these "two ladies" have the right to make comments... even if you consider them rotten. I did not say I was the "comment police" nor did I say I was the authority of "christianity" They might not be able to "justify" their comments to someone as biased and blind as you, but I'm sure they don't care what you think anyway... Obviously you are Kim Hopper's top defender, and that's fine and dandy but don't criticize people who put out their thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda-<br />
Since this is a free country; don&#8217;t these &#8220;two ladies&#8221; have the right to make comments&#8230; even if you consider them rotten. I did not say I was the &#8220;comment police&#8221; nor did I say I was the authority of &#8220;christianity&#8221; They might not be able to &#8220;justify&#8221; their comments to someone as biased and blind as you, but I&#8217;m sure they don&#8217;t care what you think anyway&#8230; Obviously you are Kim Hopper&#8217;s top defender, and that&#8217;s fine and dandy but don&#8217;t criticize people who put out their thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919187</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-919187</guid>
		<description>Tom and Yeah, 

All I can say is, "AMEN!!!'

JessicaLynn,
Maybe you're the one who should back off.  I simply asked a question of the two "ladies" making rotten comments.  Last time I checked, this was a free country.  Who made you the comment police???  The comments made by many of the people here regarding Kim Hopper do nothing to promote Christianity; in fact, those types of comments hurt Christianity, if the people making such comments on a public forum proclaim to be Christians.  So, I'm interested in knowing how two people who may potentially be Christians justify such comments.

Since you're so "in the know", you should've known that already.  Who's the fool now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom and Yeah, </p>
<p>All I can say is, &#8220;AMEN!!!&#8217;</p>
<p>JessicaLynn,<br />
Maybe you&#8217;re the one who should back off.  I simply asked a question of the two &#8220;ladies&#8221; making rotten comments.  Last time I checked, this was a free country.  Who made you the comment police???  The comments made by many of the people here regarding Kim Hopper do nothing to promote Christianity; in fact, those types of comments hurt Christianity, if the people making such comments on a public forum proclaim to be Christians.  So, I&#8217;m interested in knowing how two people who may potentially be Christians justify such comments.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re so &#8220;in the know&#8221;, you should&#8217;ve known that already.  Who&#8217;s the fool now?</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah...</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918990</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeah...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918990</guid>
		<description>Sheesh. What incredibly catty and lousy comments have descended upon us on what was such a positive post about TaRanda. I dread thinking that either of them have visited this site. A few of you jealous ladies need to have a little quiet time alone with God, since it's obvious that you'll never face Kim Hopper and say the egregious things to her in person that you spewed here.

Kim and TaRanda have their own ministries and talents. Anyone can - and will - have favorites. But, each of theirs is a talent given to them by God, and as each of them could likely make it quite nicely in the secular world, I'm pretty delighted that they've chosen to sing the Gospel. Both have their own personality types and stage manners. These are no accident; they are the women that God has formed them to be. Instead of rejoicing in this, even if you prefer one over the other, you've chosen to tear them down on a personal level, and in a tone that should never be from a true Christian. I hope that over time, several of you become ashamed. But, I doubt that you will. Shakespeare was so correct: "Jealousy, crueler than the grave".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh. What incredibly catty and lousy comments have descended upon us on what was such a positive post about TaRanda. I dread thinking that either of them have visited this site. A few of you jealous ladies need to have a little quiet time alone with God, since it&#8217;s obvious that you&#8217;ll never face Kim Hopper and say the egregious things to her in person that you spewed here.</p>
<p>Kim and TaRanda have their own ministries and talents. Anyone can - and will - have favorites. But, each of theirs is a talent given to them by God, and as each of them could likely make it quite nicely in the secular world, I&#8217;m pretty delighted that they&#8217;ve chosen to sing the Gospel. Both have their own personality types and stage manners. These are no accident; they are the women that God has formed them to be. Instead of rejoicing in this, even if you prefer one over the other, you&#8217;ve chosen to tear them down on a personal level, and in a tone that should never be from a true Christian. I hope that over time, several of you become ashamed. But, I doubt that you will. Shakespeare was so correct: &#8220;Jealousy, crueler than the grave&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918984</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918984</guid>
		<description>I don't care if Kim Hopper goes to 250lbs...to me she is gorgeous and sexy (in a Christian way...if there is a word for that)....is someone going to say she implants next? I think she has her original equipment....'cept a few teeth,and may appendix or tonsils ...or...well you get the picture..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if Kim Hopper goes to 250lbs&#8230;to me she is gorgeous and sexy (in a Christian way&#8230;if there is a word for that)&#8230;.is someone going to say she implants next? I think she has her original equipment&#8230;.&#8217;cept a few teeth,and may appendix or tonsils &#8230;or&#8230;well you get the picture..</p>
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		<title>By: JessicaLynn</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918930</link>
		<dc:creator>JessicaLynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918930</guid>
		<description>Amanda,
It's a little much to question someone's salvation. Might be a good time to back off. Some people are a little more "in the know" on the SG business and your hasty defense might make you the fool in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,<br />
It&#8217;s a little much to question someone&#8217;s salvation. Might be a good time to back off. Some people are a little more &#8220;in the know&#8221; on the SG business and your hasty defense might make you the fool in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918883</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/06/02/there-you-are/#comment-918883</guid>
		<description>Londan,

How many times exactly has Kim had a fill-in over the last year?  You seem to know first-hand that she has had "numerous" fill-ins, so give us a number.  I have been to a lot of Hoppers concerts over the past thirteen years, and I have NEVER seen someone fill in for Kim.  I know she has fill-ins from time to time, just like all singers do, but to say the fill-ins have been NUMEROUS??  I think that is a gross exaggeration on your part.  

I know that we all have our favorites when it comes to SG singers.  I like Taranda, but she isn't my favorite.  I love Kim's voice, and she is definitely a favorite of mine.  However, just because Taranda isn't my favorite doesn't mean I have to resort to attacking her personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Londan,</p>
<p>How many times exactly has Kim had a fill-in over the last year?  You seem to know first-hand that she has had &#8220;numerous&#8221; fill-ins, so give us a number.  I have been to a lot of Hoppers concerts over the past thirteen years, and I have NEVER seen someone fill in for Kim.  I know she has fill-ins from time to time, just like all singers do, but to say the fill-ins have been NUMEROUS??  I think that is a gross exaggeration on your part.  </p>
<p>I know that we all have our favorites when it comes to SG singers.  I like Taranda, but she isn&#8217;t my favorite.  I love Kim&#8217;s voice, and she is definitely a favorite of mine.  However, just because Taranda isn&#8217;t my favorite doesn&#8217;t mean I have to resort to attacking her personally.</p>
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