I am seeing 224 post on the main page but only see 222 on the thread. What’s up with that???

But Karen Peck Gooochy Goo was always nice. Actually dated a girl named Karen Peck and when I heard the name of the new Soprano I went to see her and was surprised there were 2 HOT Karen Pecks… one looks like Amy Grant and one looks like Karen Peck!!

Suzan Speer is still hot.

We now return you to your regular blog.

If you’re a “5-point Calvinist”, you really cannot accept the grace of God, nor the free will of man, nor the invitation to all to trust the Savior. You’ve locked yourself into a most uncomfortable box.

MacArthur also has a real problem with the eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus.
He apparently doesn’t believe He became the Son of God, until He bacame Son of Man.

However, on tongues, he is spot on. Guess it proves that we all have to be very careful who we listen to, who we read, and check everything out with the Word of God itself- the final arbiter.
Thanks for your comments.

When this minister was hired, he said he was Calvinist, but the congregation did not totally understand what that meant. We were doing the Beth Moore studies, and then he wanted to do all John MacArthur. There is some information on John MacArthur’s website if you search for election that seems to indicate he is thinking in that area.

I like to discuss (not argue) points; however, the more I researched this point, the more depressed and sad I got. I had to back away. It was pulling me down. As the assistant pastor said one Sunday, if we really believe that God sends some to hell, some to heaven, then we may as well went fishing this morning. It’s hard for me to understand why anyone would even bother with church activities if this decision had already been made. They say that God is sovereign and he can do anything he wants. I know God is sovereign and can do anything he wants, but he loved us so much he sent his only Son to take our sins upon himself. Yes, he could choose to send me to Hell arbitrarily because he is sovereign, but the loving God I know gave me an option. It’s up to me which option I choose to take. If I don’t believe that, then I just don’t see the point.

I’m not knocking John MacArthur. I have his Study Bible as well, and listen to him on his radio program; however, this theology baffles me to say the least.

I went through the MacArthur Bible last night, looking at the passages on election, reading his textual notes. I honestly, so far, have not seen anything controversial.

It may actually be that this Baptist minister is a 5-point Calvinist, and is taking something he might have thought he heard or read from JM, to try to bolster his teachings.

Teaching election along with or part of salvation by grace is most dangerous. These people feel that since “only the elect shall be saved”, there is no sense fulfilling the great commission, because the Lord will save Who He has elected, and it is not our worry.

Only one problem. We have no clue who “the elect” are, until we get saved, and understand that, by grace, I’m one of them.

The best illustration I ever heard was of a picture of salvation’s Door (Christ Himself). As you stated, over the Door is “Whosoever will may come”. By grace, and immeasurable mercy, I am allowed to come by faith, through that Door, and be saved. Once in, once saved, I turn around and read what is written over the INSIDE of the door: “chosen in Christ, from before the foundation of the world”. THEN, I understand the secret of election. It is a family secret, for all who have been truly born again by grace.

But it is not for our burden to see lost souls saved. We are to preach Christ crucified, and what they do with the message is between their souls and God.