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	<title>Comments on: Very open thread</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike McIlwain</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1060650</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McIlwain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlene (#120), it would be wise for all Christians to check their system of belief and make sure that it is actually what the Bible teaches.  So many folks merely follow the system of theology that good ole brother so-and-so taught them.  Bro. so-and-so might have been a great man of God but that does not mean that he was correct in all points of doctrine.  

Thanks for bringing this article by Joe Ortiz to our attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlene (#120), it would be wise for all Christians to check their system of belief and make sure that it is actually what the Bible teaches.  So many folks merely follow the system of theology that good ole brother so-and-so taught them.  Bro. so-and-so might have been a great man of God but that does not mean that he was correct in all points of doctrine.  </p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this article by Joe Ortiz to our attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Klaudt</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1058063</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Klaudt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1058063</guid>
		<description>When reading the Bible, if you don't pray and ask the Holy Spirit to annoint the scripture and teach you through it, all version's are just Greek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When reading the Bible, if you don&#8217;t pray and ask the Holy Spirit to annoint the scripture and teach you through it, all version&#8217;s are just Greek.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlene</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1052359</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1052359</guid>
		<description>To see one of the most unusual and shocking prophecy articles I have ever found on the web, visit the Nov. 12 edition of OUR DAILY BREAD by Joe Ortiz and read "Edward Irving is Unnerving"! (CAUTION: It may cause loss of sleep!)
   Charlene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see one of the most unusual and shocking prophecy articles I have ever found on the web, visit the Nov. 12 edition of OUR DAILY BREAD by Joe Ortiz and read &#8220;Edward Irving is Unnerving&#8221;! (CAUTION: It may cause loss of sleep!)<br />
   Charlene</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1047169</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1047169</guid>
		<description>#117 Ann read your book in 1 go,that's how much i enjoyed it.Shame it wasn't longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#117 Ann read your book in 1 go,that&#8217;s how much i enjoyed it.Shame it wasn&#8217;t longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1046175</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1046175</guid>
		<description>Speaking of bashing, read a new article titled "Edward Irving is Unnerving" to find out how LaHaye's sidekick Thomas Ice is a champion basher. I found this article on Joe Ortiz' "Our Daily Bread" blog (Nov. 12). This article can turn a dispy inside out!
   Hector</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of bashing, read a new article titled &#8220;Edward Irving is Unnerving&#8221; to find out how LaHaye&#8217;s sidekick Thomas Ice is a champion basher. I found this article on Joe Ortiz&#8217; &#8220;Our Daily Bread&#8221; blog (Nov. 12). This article can turn a dispy inside out!<br />
   Hector</p>
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		<title>By: AnnD</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1046162</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1046162</guid>
		<description>Hey, I've read Ann Downing's book....yeah, I think you wanna order it :) :) :) :).

Happy Thanksgiving!!!  ad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;ve read Ann Downing&#8217;s book&#8230;.yeah, I think you wanna order it <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :) <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :).</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving!!!  ad</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Krout</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1045672</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Krout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1045672</guid>
		<description>I find it funny that those who don't believe in the whole "KJV only" are just as ignorant as the crowd they are tearing down. 

I read the KJV and probably never will pick up another version. I firmly believe that the King James is the inspired Word of God...however, I'm not going to go out of my way to bring down those who don't. I mean, I listen to preachers who use another version and God shows me great things through them...we just disagree on this one point.

Now, I understand completely that there are those in the "KJV only" camp that are cut throat and I'd rather not be associated with them. Yet, on the flipside, there are those outside that camp that are just as cut throat about what they believe.

Simply, just let it go. Believe what you feel God has led you to believe and I'll do the same. The constant bashing of those who believe the KJ to be the inspired Word of God is just out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny that those who don&#8217;t believe in the whole &#8220;KJV only&#8221; are just as ignorant as the crowd they are tearing down. </p>
<p>I read the KJV and probably never will pick up another version. I firmly believe that the King James is the inspired Word of God&#8230;however, I&#8217;m not going to go out of my way to bring down those who don&#8217;t. I mean, I listen to preachers who use another version and God shows me great things through them&#8230;we just disagree on this one point.</p>
<p>Now, I understand completely that there are those in the &#8220;KJV only&#8221; camp that are cut throat and I&#8217;d rather not be associated with them. Yet, on the flipside, there are those outside that camp that are just as cut throat about what they believe.</p>
<p>Simply, just let it go. Believe what you feel God has led you to believe and I&#8217;ll do the same. The constant bashing of those who believe the KJ to be the inspired Word of God is just out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Tjeerd</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1045154</link>
		<dc:creator>Tjeerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1045154</guid>
		<description>Good to see Parker back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see Parker back.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044865</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044865</guid>
		<description>Alan on 13th sept 2010 DV it will be my 50th birthday,as the NQC usually starts in or around that date i plan to be there.Perhaps if you're there we can meet up for a chat.I will keep you posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan on 13th sept 2010 DV it will be my 50th birthday,as the NQC usually starts in or around that date i plan to be there.Perhaps if you&#8217;re there we can meet up for a chat.I will keep you posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Wells</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044804</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044804</guid>
		<description>Hey Charles...You're probably right. I think the same principle can probably apply across the board to most all translations, literal or paraphrased - being translated in such a way as to speak to the instinctive contemporary language of the day.

As others have pointed out, some words just don't have a clearly understood equal in another language, and the people doing the translation have to take certain liberties. Imagine trying to translate the english word "bad" for someone who doesn't know the American culture, with it's literal and slang usages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Charles&#8230;You&#8217;re probably right. I think the same principle can probably apply across the board to most all translations, literal or paraphrased - being translated in such a way as to speak to the instinctive contemporary language of the day.</p>
<p>As others have pointed out, some words just don&#8217;t have a clearly understood equal in another language, and the people doing the translation have to take certain liberties. Imagine trying to translate the english word &#8220;bad&#8221; for someone who doesn&#8217;t know the American culture, with it&#8217;s literal and slang usages.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044302</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044302</guid>
		<description>Irishlad - by all means, if you ever see Prof. Gooding speaking somewhere and can go, I can pretty much promise that you'd be a richer man for going! As for Graham and The Woodvale, yep, they're amazing! As I recall, they hired Graham to be pianist for them, and then the baritone had to retire, so Graham stepped in. You don't need me to tell you that he could play keys for most any group over here that he auditioned for! The man is indeed amazing. He must be the young one of the group, though! I miss your fair isle....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishlad - by all means, if you ever see Prof. Gooding speaking somewhere and can go, I can pretty much promise that you&#8217;d be a richer man for going! As for Graham and The Woodvale, yep, they&#8217;re amazing! As I recall, they hired Graham to be pianist for them, and then the baritone had to retire, so Graham stepped in. You don&#8217;t need me to tell you that he could play keys for most any group over here that he auditioned for! The man is indeed amazing. He must be the young one of the group, though! I miss your fair isle&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Brady</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044296</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044296</guid>
		<description>#94 ( Hi Lewis!)
I think maybe the translators knew that "KING" James could relate better to "Mansions" than to rooms....  Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#94 ( Hi Lewis!)<br />
I think maybe the translators knew that &#8220;KING&#8221; James could relate better to &#8220;Mansions&#8221; than to rooms&#8230;.  Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Just Thinking</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044103</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044103</guid>
		<description>I'm probably the only person who didn't already know about this website, but I recently found a wonderful tool for comparing versions.  I especially like the "Greek" tab that gives you a word by word definition of the original Greek words.  I love this website:
http://bible.cc/john/1-1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably the only person who didn&#8217;t already know about this website, but I recently found a wonderful tool for comparing versions.  I especially like the &#8220;Greek&#8221; tab that gives you a word by word definition of the original Greek words.  I love this website:<br />
<a href="http://bible.cc/john/1-1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://bible.cc/john/1-1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044102</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044102</guid>
		<description>cynical- I think you posed that question to me, and not Jake. My answer is this; the editorial boards of all of the essentially literal word-for-word translations, make it very clear in their prefaces that they specifically do NOT do this. They really cannot, because they are trying to translate the best manuscripts the best way, but doing it literally.

They do not have, nor do they give themselves, the leeway to try to describe what they think the writers meant.

Hope this answers your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cynical- I think you posed that question to me, and not Jake. My answer is this; the editorial boards of all of the essentially literal word-for-word translations, make it very clear in their prefaces that they specifically do NOT do this. They really cannot, because they are trying to translate the best manuscripts the best way, but doing it literally.</p>
<p>They do not have, nor do they give themselves, the leeway to try to describe what they think the writers meant.</p>
<p>Hope this answers your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044076</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2009/11/06/very-open-thread/#comment-1044076</guid>
		<description>Alan,i'm sorry to say i missed that sevice.From what you say it was somthing not to miss.In future i will endeavour to go hear him.I will keep you posted.Btw the gospel group "The Woodvale" were singing in my home church Sunday night,they are reduced from 5 to 3 members and boy you should hear these guys sing to be in their mid seventies and have been for close on 60 years.Well done to Alec,Denis and Graham Murphy,whom i think you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,i&#8217;m sorry to say i missed that sevice.From what you say it was somthing not to miss.In future i will endeavour to go hear him.I will keep you posted.Btw the gospel group &#8220;The Woodvale&#8221; were singing in my home church Sunday night,they are reduced from 5 to 3 members and boy you should hear these guys sing to be in their mid seventies and have been for close on 60 years.Well done to Alec,Denis and Graham Murphy,whom i think you know.</p>
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