Comments on: Race and sg http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Thu, 24 May 2012 02:58:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Luke Vaught http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1080897 Luke Vaught Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:01:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1080897 This is not really adding anything to the discussion, but where in the world can I find that recording of the Statesmen Quartet Live at Fort Worth Texas Will Rogers Auditorium? I have almost all of the Statesmens records, including the 3 RCA live albums and the later Skylite live album, and I am EXTREMELY curious about where I can get this unreleased (I assume) live recording that everyone keeps talking about. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! This is not really adding anything to the discussion, but where in the world can I find that recording of the Statesmen Quartet Live at Fort Worth Texas Will Rogers Auditorium? I have almost all of the Statesmens records, including the 3 RCA live albums and the later Skylite live album, and I am EXTREMELY curious about where I can get this unreleased (I assume) live recording that everyone keeps talking about. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

]]> By: Jeff Crews http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1068582 Jeff Crews Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:58:05 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1068582 This is not so much about racism, but about how musicians I've known are in general very accepting of others who are different than they. I loved and respected James Blackwood, but he had an expectedly "old white man" response to those who were different. I remember him writing a letter to the singing news blasting a Dove award ceremony he attended late in his life where the people's hair and clothing were not appropriate to him. His response, however, was unique in my experience. I remember Jake being "hot" at the singing news when they came out with their facial hair and hair dress code for their magazine. He said, "Guy Penrod is one of the most Christ-like individuals I've ever met and a SUPER singer. He can wear his hair any way he wants, and it's fine by me." I also remember Hovie being "hot" at a NQC crowd who did not give Ricky Skaggs a standing O. it was the same year Ivan and Kirk were "hot" that there were no SG soloists on the main stage, but a bluegrass guy was given time. Hovie said talent is talent, and Christians are Christians whether they are singing old Statesmen songs or Bill Monroe tunes. Jim Hammil who was everybody's favorite tobacco spitting redneck uncle was quick to share the stage and friendship with Teddy Huffam. The Rambos were threatened in my home state for singing songs from Dottie's album of "black gospel." JD Sumner said he always "liked to have a queer in the group just to keep things interesting." Jake didn't share that sentiment, however. Regardless of preferences or upbringing music is the common language that ties (tied) all those folks together. This is not so much about racism, but about how musicians I’ve known are in general very accepting of others who are different than they. I loved and respected James Blackwood, but he had an expectedly “old white man” response to those who were different. I remember him writing a letter to the singing news blasting a Dove award ceremony he attended late in his life where the people’s hair and clothing were not appropriate to him. His response, however, was unique in my experience. I remember Jake being “hot” at the singing news when they came out with their facial hair and hair dress code for their magazine. He said, “Guy Penrod is one of the most Christ-like individuals I’ve ever met and a SUPER singer. He can wear his hair any way he wants, and it’s fine by me.” I also remember Hovie being “hot” at a NQC crowd who did not give Ricky Skaggs a standing O. it was the same year Ivan and Kirk were “hot” that there were no SG soloists on the main stage, but a bluegrass guy was given time. Hovie said talent is talent, and Christians are Christians whether they are singing old Statesmen songs or Bill Monroe tunes. Jim Hammil who was everybody’s favorite tobacco spitting redneck uncle was quick to share the stage and friendship with Teddy Huffam. The Rambos were threatened in my home state for singing songs from Dottie’s album of “black gospel.” JD Sumner said he always “liked to have a queer in the group just to keep things interesting.” Jake didn’t share that sentiment, however. Regardless of preferences or upbringing music is the common language that ties (tied) all those folks together.

]]> By: princess7275 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1067744 princess7275 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:36:36 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1067744 Interesting topic....I'm a southern gospel fan, and I attend concerts as often as I can. It tickles me the looks that I get when I'm the only African American in the audience.... Interesting topic….I’m a southern gospel fan, and I attend concerts as often as I can. It tickles me the looks that I get when I’m the only African American in the audience….

]]> By: John Crenshaw http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066996 John Crenshaw Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:34:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066996 Jeff, #19 was a great, informative post. Jeff, #19 was a great, informative post.

]]> By: Doles http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066929 Doles Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:02:10 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066929 RE: #19- Although I've never posted anything on this, I found your post so moving I had to say something. I fell in love with this music through Homecoming thing, and it was a treat for me to watch and learn about all these people. I am among the least recognizable southern gospel fans (well, perhaps not southern gospel altogether) as I don't fit the typical description. However since the first time I saw Jake Hess, my heart was fill with joy watching this piece of human singing like no others I've ever seen. I always had my reservations as to how many of them really carried prejudiced sentiments, although I didn't care much because I love the music so much. I have to say that Jake was the one I was always ready to bet on. He just didn't seem to care what race, color, or anything you were as long as you loved the Lord and could sing for Him. Boy, am I glad to hear that he probably wasn't too much a misguided soul. I do believe all humans carry some prejudice. I just tend to navigate towards those who at least try to be fair with everyone. RE: #19-
Although I’ve never posted anything on this, I found your post so moving I had to say something. I fell in love with this music through Homecoming thing, and it was a treat for me to watch and learn about all these people. I am among the least recognizable southern gospel fans (well, perhaps not southern gospel altogether) as I don’t fit the typical description. However since the first time I saw Jake Hess, my heart was fill with joy watching this piece of human singing like no others I’ve ever seen. I always had my reservations as to how many of them really carried prejudiced sentiments, although I didn’t care much because I love the music so much. I have to say that Jake was the one I was always ready to bet on. He just didn’t seem to care what race, color, or anything you were as long as you loved the Lord and could sing for Him. Boy, am I glad to hear that he probably wasn’t too much a misguided soul. I do believe all humans carry some prejudice. I just tend to navigate towards those who at least try to be fair with everyone.

]]> By: KC http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066876 KC Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:21:21 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066876 And now, some racism humor from one of my favorite musicals: Avenue Q. :) Princeton: Say, Kate, can I ask you a question? Kate Monster: Sure! Princeton: Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs? Kate Monster: Uh huh. Princeton: Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster. Kate Monster: Right. Princeton: You're both Monsters. Kate Monster: Yeah. Princeton: Are you two related? Kate Monster: What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist! Princeton: Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking! Kate Monster: Well, it's a touchy subject. No, not all Monsters are related. What are you trying say, huh? That we all look the same to you? Huh, huh, huh? Princeton: No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry, I guess that was a little racist. Kate Monster: I should say so. You should be much more careful when you're talking about the sensitive subject of race. Princeton: Well, look who's talking! Kate Monster: What do you mean? Princeton: What about that special Monster School you told me about? Kate Monster: What about it? Princeton: Could someone like me go there? Kate Monster: No, we don't want people like you- Princeton: You see?! You're a little bit racist. Kate Monster: Well, you're a little bit too. Princeton: I guess we're both a little bit racist. Kate Monster: Admitting it is not an easy thing to do... Princeton: But I guess it's true. Kate Monster: Between me and you, I think Both: Everyone's a little bit racist Sometimes. Doesn't mean we go Around committing hate crimes. Look around and you will find No one's really color blind. Maybe it's a fact We all should face Everyone makes judgments Based on race. Princeton: Now not big judgments, like who to hire or who to buy a newspaper from - Kate Monster: No! Princeton: No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican busboys should learn to speak goddamn English! Kate Monster: Right! Both: Everyone's a little bit racist Today. So, everyone's a little bit racist Okay! Ethinic jokes might be uncouth, But you laugh because They're based on truth. Don't take them as Personal attacks. Everyone enjoys them - So relax! Princeton: All right, stop me if you've heard this one. Kate Monster: Okay! Princeton: There's a plan going down and there's only one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest... Kate Monster: And a black guy! Gary Coleman: Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate? Kate Monster: Uh... Gary Coleman: You were telling a black joke! Princeton: Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes. Gary Coleman: I don't. Princeton: Well, of course you don't - you're black! But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right? Gary Coleman: Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks! Princeton: Now, don't you think that's a little racist? Gary Coleman: Well, damn, I guess you're right. Kate Monster: You're a little bit racist. Gary Coleman: Well, you're a little bit too. Princeton: We're all a little bit racist. Gary Coleman: I think that I would Have to agree with you. Princeton/Kate Monster: We're glad you do. Gary Coleman: It's sad but true! Everyone's a little bit racist - All right! Kate Monster: All right! Princeton: All right! Gary Coleman: All right! Bigotry has never been Exclusively white All: If we all could just admit That we are racist a little bit, Even though we all know That it's wrong, Maybe it would help us Get along. Princeton: Oh, Christ do I feel good. Gary Coleman: Now there was a fine upstanding black man! Princeton: Who? Gary Coleman: Jesus Christ. Kate Monster: But, Gary, Jesus was white. Gary Coleman: No, Jesus was black. Kate Monster: No, Jesus was white. Gary Coleman: No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black- Princeton: Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish! Brian: Hey guys, what are you laughing about? Gary Coleman: Racism! Brian: Cool. Christmas Eve: BRIAN! Come back here! You take out lecycuraburs! Princeton: What's that mean? Brian: Um, recyclables. Hey, don't laugh at her! How many languages do you speak? Kate Monster: Oh, come off it, Brian! Everyone's a little bit racist. Brian: I'm not! Princeton: Oh no? Brian: Nope! How many Oriental wives Have you got? Christmas Eve: What? Brian! Princeton: Brian, buddy, where you been? The term is Asian-American! Christmas Eve: I know you are no Intending to be But calling me Oriental - Offensive to me! Brian: I'm sorry, honey, I love you. Christmas Eve: And I love you. Brian: But you're racist, too. Christmas Eve: Yes, I know. The Jews have all The money And the whites have all The power. And I'm always in taxi-cab With driver who no shower! Princeton: Me too! Kate Monster: Me too! Gary Coleman: I can't even get a taxi! All: Everyone's a little bit racist It's true. But everyone is just about As racist as you! If we all could just admit That we are racist a little bit, And everyone stopped being So PC Maybe we could live in - Harmony! Christmas Eve: Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist! And now, some racism humor from one of my favorite musicals: Avenue Q. :)

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he’s Trekkie Monster, and you’re Kate Monster.

Kate Monster:
Right.

Princeton:
You’re both Monsters.

Kate Monster:
Yeah.

Princeton:
Are you two related?

Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I’m surprised at you! I find that racist!

Princeton:
Oh, well, I’m sorry! I was just asking!

Kate Monster:
Well, it’s a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I’m sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you’re talking about the
sensitive subject of race.

Princeton:
Well, look who’s talking!

Kate Monster:
What do you mean?

Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?

Kate Monster:
What about it?

Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?

Kate Monster:
No, we don’t want people like you-

Princeton:
You see?!

You’re a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Well, you’re a little bit too.

Princeton:
I guess we’re both a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do…

Princeton:
But I guess it’s true.

Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone’s a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn’t mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one’s really color blind.
Maybe it’s a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -

Kate Monster:
No!

Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

Kate Monster:
Right!

Both:
Everyone’s a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone’s a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They’re based on truth.
Don’t take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!

Princeton:
All right, stop me if you’ve heard this one.

Kate Monster:
Okay!

Princeton:
There’s a plan going down and there’s only
one paracute. And there’s a rabbi, a priest…

Kate Monster:
And a black guy!

Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout Kate?

Kate Monster:
Uh…

Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!

Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

Gary Coleman:
I don’t.

Princeton:
Well, of course you don’t - you’re black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

Princeton:
Now, don’t you think that’s a little racist?

Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you’re right.

Kate Monster:
You’re a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
Well, you’re a little bit too.

Princeton:
We’re all a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.

Princeton/Kate Monster:
We’re glad you do.

Gary Coleman:
It’s sad but true!
Everyone’s a little bit racist -

All right!

Kate Monster:
All right!

Princeton:
All right!

Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white

All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it’s wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.

Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.

Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton:
Who?

Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, I’m pretty sure that Jesus was black-

Princeton:
Guys, guys…Jesus was Jewish!

Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

Gary Coleman:
Racism!

Brian:
Cool.

Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!

Princeton:
What’s that mean?

Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don’t laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?

Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone’s a little bit racist.

Brian:
I’m not!

Princeton:
Oh no?

Brian:
Nope!

How many Oriental wives
Have you got?

Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!

Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!

Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!

Brian:
I’m sorry, honey, I love you.

Christmas Eve:
And I love you.

Brian:
But you’re racist, too.

Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I’m always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!

Princeton:
Me too!

Kate Monster:
Me too!

Gary Coleman:
I can’t even get a taxi!

All:
Everyone’s a little bit racist
It’s true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!

Christmas Eve:
Evlyone’s a ritter bit lacist!

]]> By: gabriella422001 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066831 gabriella422001 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:28:37 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1066831 I could tell you people a thing or two about racism in the southern gospel and independent baptist world. But I won't. If they aren't OUTRIGHT to your face racists, believe me, they will find a way to "get you". Its all still alive and well, people just don't uh, admit it. But dirty racism lives on. I could tell you people a thing or two about racism in the southern gospel and independent baptist world. But I won’t. If they aren’t OUTRIGHT to your face racists, believe me, they will find a way to “get you”. Its all still alive and well, people just don’t uh, admit it. But dirty racism lives on.

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1064198 quartet-man Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:14:28 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1064198 Jeff, you are right about the differences between the two. Racism and homophobic are two words carelessly and often misused when thrown around often. Although both exist, racism is as you defined and homophobia is an irrational fear, not disagreeing with or speaking against. Someone disagreeing with or speaking out against COULD on occasion be caused by racism, neither are always the root cause. Jeff, you are right about the differences between the two. Racism and homophobic are two words carelessly and often misused when thrown around often. Although both exist, racism is as you defined and homophobia is an irrational fear, not disagreeing with or speaking against. Someone disagreeing with or speaking out against COULD on occasion be caused by racism, neither are always the root cause.

]]> By: Auke http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1064186 Auke Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:10:00 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1064186 #19 Jeff what a great post...very accurate i think, and the topic is placed in the proper context. I resent all forms of rasiscm,prejudice and such...but i realize all of the mentioned sins/flaws are taught sentiments. I really am shocked to read that people who are involved in the world of Gospel music would refer to african-americans as 'nigs' ...unbelievable that this is still on the agenda of some...may i say very stupid folk. Auke #19 Jeff what a great post…very accurate i think, and the topic is placed in the proper context.
I resent all forms of rasiscm,prejudice and such…but i realize all of the mentioned sins/flaws are taught sentiments.
I really am shocked to read that people who are involved in the world of Gospel music would refer to african-americans as ‘nigs’ …unbelievable that this is still on the agenda of some…may i say very stupid folk.
Auke

]]> By: Jeff Crews http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063682 Jeff Crews Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:03:58 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063682 Soli Deo, The story about Hovie and the Statesmen isn't racism. It reflects PREJUDICE that was widely accepted and embraced in the 1950's South. I'm not splitting hairs, there is a difference. Racism is the active effort to keep a race of people down. Prejudices are ideas formed by experience or ignorance. It's still wrong, you understand, but it is different. I'll say about Hovie what Lewis Grizzard said about a southern politician from the 1960's South - "He was singing segregation, but he wasn't singing a solo." As a note of encouragement, I know that lots of those 1950's quartet guys drastically changed their ideas about lots of things over the years. I travelled with Jake Hess late in his life, and though he was raised in the segregated South, he legitimately did not see color. He loved Jessie Dixon and on one occassion, when a long time Hess fan and friend told Jake that he wouldn't be coming to any Gaither Concerts to sit and listen to a bunch of "nigs", Jake told him straight out that those "nigs" were his friends and some of the finest people it was his pleasure to know. I also think Hovie was just playing to the audience of the time. I know that they were friends with black quartets from that era. Jake talked with great fondness for the Golden Gate Quartet and the Jubilee Four, who he counted as friends. The Statesmen were also great fans of those groups and did many of their songs, like Get Away Jordan and others. I think Bill Gaither had a lot to do with bringing black and white Gospel music together by focusing on what the music types had in common. if you look at old versions of the Singing News, you will notice there has always been a presence of black groups - Teddy Huffam, Jessie Dixon, Charles Johnson. I know these guys had great friendships with artists like the Florida Boys, The Kingsmen and others. Soli Deo,
The story about Hovie and the Statesmen isn’t racism. It reflects PREJUDICE that was widely accepted and embraced in the 1950’s South. I’m not splitting hairs, there is a difference. Racism is the active effort to keep a race of people down. Prejudices are ideas formed by experience or ignorance. It’s still wrong, you understand, but it is different. I’ll say about Hovie what Lewis Grizzard said about a southern politician from the 1960’s South - “He was singing segregation, but he wasn’t singing a solo.” As a note of encouragement, I know that lots of those 1950’s quartet guys drastically changed their ideas about lots of things over the years. I travelled with Jake Hess late in his life, and though he was raised in the segregated South, he legitimately did not see color. He loved Jessie Dixon and on one occassion, when a long time Hess fan and friend told Jake that he wouldn’t be coming to any Gaither Concerts to sit and listen to a bunch of “nigs”, Jake told him straight out that those “nigs” were his friends and some of the finest people it was his pleasure to know. I also think Hovie was just playing to the audience of the time. I know that they were friends with black quartets from that era. Jake talked with great fondness for the Golden Gate Quartet and the Jubilee Four, who he counted as friends. The Statesmen were also great fans of those groups and did many of their songs, like Get Away Jordan and others. I think Bill Gaither had a lot to do with bringing black and white Gospel music together by focusing on what the music types had in common. if you look at old versions of the Singing News, you will notice there has always been a presence of black groups - Teddy Huffam, Jessie Dixon, Charles Johnson. I know these guys had great friendships with artists like the Florida Boys, The Kingsmen and others.

]]> By: Soli Deo Gloria http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063630 Soli Deo Gloria Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:28:49 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063630 Southern gospel's institutional racism, past and present, isn't funny, and shouldn't be wistfully reminisced about. Southern gospel’s institutional racism, past and present, isn’t funny, and shouldn’t be wistfully reminisced about.

]]> By: NG http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063246 NG Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:25:02 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1063246 Every year Oxford American magazine puts out a music edition about southern music (lots of kinds) which includes one or two CDs. It's a steal at $12. It has never included SGM but often has Black gospel and great writing about it. This year a writer named Greg Bottoms, commenting on a Black Gospel recording, writes: " The body is a vessel. The voice is an instrument. The soul is a connector, only one side of which is connected to you. . . When it is connected in song, it becomes like a wire. Beautiful gospel opens the current. That is why as we listen our whole bodies thrum." "This life is our burden, but music, if made right . . . can transform pain into joy, darkness into light. It can patch the disruptions of the past by facing us towards our final escape into the future." Every year Oxford American magazine puts out a music edition about southern music (lots of kinds) which includes one or two CDs. It’s a steal at $12. It has never included SGM but often has Black gospel and great writing about it.

This year a writer named Greg Bottoms, commenting on a Black Gospel recording, writes: ” The body is a vessel. The voice is an instrument. The soul is a connector, only one side of which is connected to you. . . When it is connected in song, it becomes like a wire. Beautiful gospel opens the current. That is why as we listen our whole bodies thrum.”

“This life is our burden, but music, if made right . . . can transform pain into joy, darkness into light. It can patch the disruptions of the past by facing us towards our final escape into the future.”

]]> By: Bones http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062614 Bones Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:24:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062614 If you went to see the Hawkins Family, Fair Field Four, Blind Boys of Alabama, Mighty Clouds of Joy it would mostly be a black audience. People just so hear what they like. That sounds like a good concert. Lets go. If you went to see the Hawkins Family, Fair Field Four, Blind Boys of Alabama, Mighty Clouds of Joy it would mostly be a black audience. People just so hear what they like. That sounds like a good concert. Lets go.

]]> By: cdguy http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062323 cdguy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:54:58 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062323 Extra Ink -- To the best of knowledge, that lead singer is no longer singing professionally. That's why I worded it that way. Extra Ink — To the best of knowledge, that lead singer is no longer singing professionally. That’s why I worded it that way.

]]> By: Kyle http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062169 Kyle Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:49:56 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/race-and-sg/#comment-1062169 Here's the Dale Shelnut reference to "colored spirituals." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gMSDpoVeXg Here’s the Dale Shelnut reference to “colored spirituals.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gMSDpoVeXg

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