Comments on: The SN Concert-list firewall http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Thu, 24 May 2012 02:59:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: David Morris http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1078154 David Morris Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:14:25 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1078154 No. 25 hit the nail squarely on the head. Those that find if beneath them to pay the $10 to $15 to subscribe to the SN or the site are the same ones who watch the plate pass at a "love offering" concert. I go to sings at a church locally almost every Saturday night. The pastor of the church is always poking other promoters by saying "You could have gone over to Tampa or where ever and paid $35 for a Gaither concert, but we don't charge" When the buckets come around I watch people put in a quarter or a dollar or make change. My rule of thumb is to put in what a ticket to a concert would have probably cost, usually around $15. It just amazes me that people want it all for free because it is ministry. Buy the subscription, you will know where the groups are and you may learn something in the process. No. 25 hit the nail squarely on the head. Those that find if beneath them to pay the $10 to $15 to subscribe to the SN or the site are the same ones who watch the plate pass at a “love offering” concert. I go to sings at a church locally almost every Saturday night. The pastor of the church is always poking other promoters by saying “You could have gone over to Tampa or where ever and paid $35 for a Gaither concert, but we don’t charge” When the buckets come around I watch people put in a quarter or a dollar or make change. My rule of thumb is to put in what a ticket to a concert would have probably cost, usually around $15. It just amazes me that people want it all for free because it is ministry. Buy the subscription, you will know where the groups are and you may learn something in the process.

]]> By: Blackstone http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1067674 Blackstone Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:06:24 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1067674 If a group is good, it will survive. They may have to shorten transportation a bit, the the "cream" will rise to the top. Those groups who aren't as good, sing locally parttime until you can afford the big bus. RE: Singing News, this magazine is put together two months ahead so cannot include the latest bookings. If a group is good, it will survive. They may have to shorten transportation a bit, the the “cream” will rise to the top. Those groups who aren’t as good, sing locally parttime until you can afford the big bus.
RE: Singing News, this magazine is put together two months ahead so cannot include the latest bookings.

]]> By: Sally Hart http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1067563 Sally Hart Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:44:01 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1067563 Perhaps at some point I clicked the "remember me" button, but I don't see where it says I am signed in, and I am looking at all the concerts. I even see a section where you can look by state. ????? I'm not real computer literate, but I know I didn't sign in just now. Perhaps at some point I clicked the “remember me” button, but I don’t see where it says I am signed in, and I am looking at all the concerts. I even see a section where you can look by state. ?????
I’m not real computer literate, but I know I didn’t sign in just now.

]]> By: scope http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1066352 scope Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:17:57 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1066352 Seems to me that the people who want everything free on the internet are the same people who think putting a dollar in the plate constitutes a "love offering." Why do so many think they are entitled to something for nothing? Seems to me that the people who want everything free on the internet are the same people who think putting a dollar in the plate constitutes a “love offering.” Why do so many think they are entitled to something for nothing?

]]> By: Spencer Morgan http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1064855 Spencer Morgan Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:25:46 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1064855 If we get rid of the con men in gospel singing maybe some people would attend more. I have a website coming soon detailing one such con man promoting gospel music. It is sickening the things that people do when professing to be a Christian. If we get rid of the con men in gospel singing maybe some people would attend more. I have a website coming soon detailing one such con man promoting gospel music. It is sickening the things that people do when professing to be a Christian.

]]> By: Aaron Swain http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1064399 Aaron Swain Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:09:58 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1064399 For those who live in the state of VA, we have a full schedule of concerts throughout the state at www.vasoutherngospel.com We strive to keep the site as current as possible to make sure you have an opportunity to know when artists will appear in VA. For those who live in the state of VA, we have a full schedule of concerts throughout the state at www.vasoutherngospel.com

We strive to keep the site as current as possible to make sure you have an opportunity to know when artists will appear in VA.

]]> By: HP http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062252 HP Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:17:22 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062252 Interesting takes. #16 is in line with what I'm thinking. I used to check the SN website just to see if anybody was around. I have my favorite groups that I check their website, but there are probably a lot of groups around on a Sunday night that I never hear about cause I've never heard of them. I'll have to bookmark the gospelgigs website. To grow any industry, availability is crucial. Many comments about the people that really want to come will find out about the concerts...... What about the casual fans? Don't they count? I guess no groups really want their money? Interesting takes. #16 is in line with what I’m thinking. I used to check the SN website just to see if anybody was around. I have my favorite groups that I check their website, but there are probably a lot of groups around on a Sunday night that I never hear about cause I’ve never heard of them. I’ll have to bookmark the gospelgigs website. To grow any industry, availability is crucial. Many comments about the people that really want to come will find out about the concerts…… What about the casual fans? Don’t they count? I guess no groups really want their money?

]]> By: Stac http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062204 Stac Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:56:24 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062204 I'm just wondering if the folks talking about forking over cash for SN supscription know that you can join internet only for $15? That's $1.25 a month, you have no excuse to miss out on anything. I’m just wondering if the folks talking about forking over cash for SN supscription know that you can join internet only for $15? That’s $1.25 a month, you have no excuse to miss out on anything.

]]> By: RDB http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062123 RDB Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:38:01 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062123 I've never used SN to find concert info. I either check websites of artists I'm interested in or perhaps if a concert is promoted well enough I'll hear about it locally. The internet has made the SN list more or less obsolete, since the same information is available in so many other places. Another place to check is websites of agencies representing multiple (mostly) quality artists, such as Harper Agency. Of course, that won't find you the good independent group, but chances are they're smart enough to open up concerts for groups that already have a following. I’ve never used SN to find concert info. I either check websites of artists I’m interested in or perhaps if a concert is promoted well enough I’ll hear about it locally. The internet has made the SN list more or less obsolete, since the same information is available in so many other places. Another place to check is websites of agencies representing multiple (mostly) quality artists, such as Harper Agency. Of course, that won’t find you the good independent group, but chances are they’re smart enough to open up concerts for groups that already have a following.

]]> By: quartet-man http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062089 quartet-man Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:15:41 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1062089 #18 the same thing happens to me. At first I thought it might be getting removed by a cleanup program I sometime use. Now I am not so sure, #18 the same thing happens to me. At first I thought it might be getting removed by a cleanup program I sometime use. Now I am not so sure,

]]> By: Extra Ink http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061773 Extra Ink Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:10:38 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061773 I, for one, get really tired every time I go over to the Singing News website and want to look at a particular page of having to go get my magazine from last month and type in my subscription number. I click on the "Remember My Number" button every time I type it in, then the next time I want to look at the Top 80 chart or whatever, I have to go find my magazine again because the website didn't remember my number! Give me a break. What's the big deal with making the site accessible? I, for one, get really tired every time I go over to the Singing News website and want to look at a particular page of having to go get my magazine from last month and type in my subscription number. I click on the “Remember My Number” button every time I type it in, then the next time I want to look at the Top 80 chart or whatever, I have to go find my magazine again because the website didn’t remember my number! Give me a break. What’s the big deal with making the site accessible?

]]> By: Larry Boyd http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061705 Larry Boyd Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:21:23 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061705 I for one liked the query capabilities the SN website offered but don't care to fork over the $$. Are there any other sites where you can perform similar searches? To me a consolidated query/portal is better than searching a number of other sites. I for one liked the query capabilities the SN website offered but don’t care to fork over the $$. Are there any other sites where you can perform similar searches? To me a consolidated query/portal is better than searching a number of other sites.

]]> By: shanjenkins http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061685 shanjenkins Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:59:10 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061685 The fact that the SN has made the concert listing a subscription-only service has definitely limited my attendance at concerts. I agree that you can go the website of an artist and find out where they are appearing for free, but I tend to only visit the websites of my favorite artists. What was so great about having access to the SN lists of dates was that I could look every weekend to see who would be appearing within driving distance of my home. I have attended many concerts of artists that I probably never would have seen had the listings not been so convenient. Now, I pretty much only go to the concerts of my favorites. I stopped subscribing to the SN several years ago because the content just became really dull, and boring to me. Not gonna waste my money on a tired, old magazine. Just my opinion. The fact that the SN has made the concert listing a subscription-only service has definitely limited my attendance at concerts. I agree that you can go the website of an artist and find out where they are appearing for free, but I tend to only visit the websites of my favorite artists. What was so great about having access to the SN lists of dates was that I could look every weekend to see who would be appearing within driving distance of my home. I have attended many concerts of artists that I probably never would have seen had the listings not been so convenient. Now, I pretty much only go to the concerts of my favorites. I stopped subscribing to the SN several years ago because the content just became really dull, and boring to me. Not gonna waste my money on a tired, old magazine. Just my opinion.

]]> By: CVH http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061571 CVH Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:35:52 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061571 This may be a tangent to the conversation but since several people have mentioned various groups' websites and email updates, I have to say I have been very impressed with the weekly email updates sent out by Gerald Wolfe and Greater Vision. Not only is the design clean and fresh every week, the content is updated and there are always concert listings with links to the venues, promotional mentions and a personal thought from Gerald. I think they do an excellent job utilizing the technology to stay in touch, building a community of fans and their brand at the same time. This may be a tangent to the conversation but since several people have mentioned various groups’ websites and email updates, I have to say I have been very impressed with the weekly email updates sent out by Gerald Wolfe and Greater Vision. Not only is the design clean and fresh every week, the content is updated and there are always concert listings with links to the venues, promotional mentions and a personal thought from Gerald. I think they do an excellent job utilizing the technology to stay in touch, building a community of fans and their brand at the same time.

]]> By: Ted Watson http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061564 Ted Watson Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:29:35 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2009/12/07/the-sn-concert-list-firewall/#comment-1061564 If you're looking for a 'master calendar' of events in your area, sign up with www.gospelgigs.com. (I'm not affiliated with them.) Artists sign up with them (free) and load their calendar info. Fans sign up (free) and get weekly updates of events in their area. It think it's a great service that deserves our support! If you’re looking for a ‘master calendar’ of events in your area, sign up with www.gospelgigs.com. (I’m not affiliated with them.) Artists sign up with them (free) and load their calendar info. Fans sign up (free) and get weekly updates of events in their area. It think it’s a great service that deserves our support!

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