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	<title>Comments on: Weekend Roundup</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1087294</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1087294</guid>
		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeU_D1aC3Q4

Here's a link to some MTQ....hope it hasn't been posted yet.</description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a link to some MTQ&#8230;.hope it hasn&#8217;t been posted yet.</p>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081292</link>
		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081292</guid>
		<description>DeeAnn, number one, because Doug never said the things you imply he's accusing Mark of being (and that you later state about Doug).  This wording might be confusing but the logic sure isn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeeAnn, number one, because Doug never said the things you imply he&#8217;s accusing Mark of being (and that you later state about Doug).  This wording might be confusing but the logic sure isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081282</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081282</guid>
		<description>Joe, I definitely see your point.

I do maintain that it is possible to enjoy Mark... Mark's singing, Mark's preaching, Mark's songwriting, Mark's bass guitar playing, etc., all the while not enjoying the group he's assembled or is assembling. And I don't think any of Doug's stated opinions were out of line (if that were even possible, given his understanding of the industry and his connections). There is an undeniable business element to putting a group on the road, and decisions made relative to this element are fair game for armchair quarterbacking. The subjective interpretive part of all this, of which I doubt either of us will convince the other, is the intent of the author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I definitely see your point.</p>
<p>I do maintain that it is possible to enjoy Mark&#8230; Mark&#8217;s singing, Mark&#8217;s preaching, Mark&#8217;s songwriting, Mark&#8217;s bass guitar playing, etc., all the while not enjoying the group he&#8217;s assembled or is assembling. And I don&#8217;t think any of Doug&#8217;s stated opinions were out of line (if that were even possible, given his understanding of the industry and his connections). There is an undeniable business element to putting a group on the road, and decisions made relative to this element are fair game for armchair quarterbacking. The subjective interpretive part of all this, of which I doubt either of us will convince the other, is the intent of the author.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081266</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081266</guid>
		<description>Bryce- what I wrote, may not have been overtly stated by Doug. But it WAS very loudly inferred.

A "ho-hum male quartet" arising from a "middle-tier male trio", is essentially, saying that 3/4 of the first, has been spawned by the latter. It is an A=B=C scenario, and NONE of it is complementary in the least. And, at least one part of it is inherently untrue.

For anyone considered a SGM "expert" to state that the MTT of the past 5 years is "middle-tier", and has "a chronic poverty of decent material"...not only are they totally mistaken, but they are making derogatory comments about the class act who owns the trio, who picks the songs, and who will manage the upcoming quartet.

It's one thing to be wrong. It's another thing to be unkindly wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryce- what I wrote, may not have been overtly stated by Doug. But it WAS very loudly inferred.</p>
<p>A &#8220;ho-hum male quartet&#8221; arising from a &#8220;middle-tier male trio&#8221;, is essentially, saying that 3/4 of the first, has been spawned by the latter. It is an A=B=C scenario, and NONE of it is complementary in the least. And, at least one part of it is inherently untrue.</p>
<p>For anyone considered a SGM &#8220;expert&#8221; to state that the MTT of the past 5 years is &#8220;middle-tier&#8221;, and has &#8220;a chronic poverty of decent material&#8221;&#8230;not only are they totally mistaken, but they are making derogatory comments about the class act who owns the trio, who picks the songs, and who will manage the upcoming quartet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to be wrong. It&#8217;s another thing to be unkindly wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: cynical one</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081210</link>
		<dc:creator>cynical one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081210</guid>
		<description>I think some of MTT's potential image issues might be related to the fact that Mark has chosen to go the ministry route, rather than primarily the concert circuit.  Mark stated from the beginning he wanted the opportunity to preach.  That's why he tends to do more churches, revivals, etc.

I remember a few decades back, the Speers felt they had done so many church gigs, revivals, and campmeetings, they had become known more as a "church" attraction than a "concert" attraction.  That greatly affected their income.  They found they were not ASKED to do the concert circuit as much.  So they had to rethink their strategy in song selection, looking for more songs that were "concert doorbusters", so to speak.  

I don't know if it worked for them, but I understand their thinking.  I hope this made sense to the rest of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of MTT&#8217;s potential image issues might be related to the fact that Mark has chosen to go the ministry route, rather than primarily the concert circuit.  Mark stated from the beginning he wanted the opportunity to preach.  That&#8217;s why he tends to do more churches, revivals, etc.</p>
<p>I remember a few decades back, the Speers felt they had done so many church gigs, revivals, and campmeetings, they had become known more as a &#8220;church&#8221; attraction than a &#8220;concert&#8221; attraction.  That greatly affected their income.  They found they were not ASKED to do the concert circuit as much.  So they had to rethink their strategy in song selection, looking for more songs that were &#8220;concert doorbusters&#8221;, so to speak.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it worked for them, but I understand their thinking.  I hope this made sense to the rest of you.</p>
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		<title>By: DeeAnnBailey</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081194</link>
		<dc:creator>DeeAnnBailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081194</guid>
		<description>Gina, my post read that Doug's attack showed the exact opposite from Doug as what we see from Mark.  Why when that is said is it an attack but when Doug says something negative it is just a comment or an opinion?

I don't get your logic on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, my post read that Doug&#8217;s attack showed the exact opposite from Doug as what we see from Mark.  Why when that is said is it an attack but when Doug says something negative it is just a comment or an opinion?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get your logic on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081184</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081184</guid>
		<description>Joe, I respectfully request that you read Doug's post again. I did.

RE: “ho-hum middle tier male trio”

Not so. The post actually reads:

"ho-hum male quartet," i.e. the configuration we, admittedly, have not yet heard, and not the "middle-tier male trio," as Doug opined.

Your credibility in discerning the blogger's intent is compromised by your inability to quote him accurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I respectfully request that you read Doug&#8217;s post again. I did.</p>
<p>RE: “ho-hum middle tier male trio”</p>
<p>Not so. The post actually reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;ho-hum male quartet,&#8221; i.e. the configuration we, admittedly, have not yet heard, and not the &#8220;middle-tier male trio,&#8221; as Doug opined.</p>
<p>Your credibility in discerning the blogger&#8217;s intent is compromised by your inability to quote him accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081172</link>
		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081172</guid>
		<description>Joe, there can be lots of reasons for flaws within a group. DeeAnn implied Doug felt Mark had "no class, no talent, did not love God", etc., which if you read his post, he obviously didn't say. The telling thing is that DeeAnn immediately turned around and attacked Doug, calling him all the things he didn't say about Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, there can be lots of reasons for flaws within a group. DeeAnn implied Doug felt Mark had &#8220;no class, no talent, did not love God&#8221;, etc., which if you read his post, he obviously didn&#8217;t say. The telling thing is that DeeAnn immediately turned around and attacked Doug, calling him all the things he didn&#8217;t say about Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: GD</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081158</link>
		<dc:creator>GD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1081158</guid>
		<description>Amen, #25.  I'm Rich is good too!  I'm really excited about the potential of this version of Gold City.  They've always been one of my favorites.  Hope they'll be visiting North Carolina soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, #25.  I&#8217;m Rich is good too!  I&#8217;m really excited about the potential of this version of Gold City.  They&#8217;ve always been one of my favorites.  Hope they&#8217;ll be visiting North Carolina soon!</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080980</link>
		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080980</guid>
		<description>Totally agree, QwertyJaun.  Now they need to back it up with a good CD.  I understand one is coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, QwertyJaun.  Now they need to back it up with a good CD.  I understand one is coming!</p>
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		<title>By: QwertyJuan</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080884</link>
		<dc:creator>QwertyJuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080884</guid>
		<description>I'm no expert... but after listening to this, I think Gold City may be back..... reminds me a bit of the GC of the early '90s(which is a compliment) ;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/goldcityqt#p/u/1/VAEdRR6JPms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no expert&#8230; but after listening to this, I think Gold City may be back&#8230;.. reminds me a bit of the GC of the early &#8217;90s(which is a compliment) <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/goldcityqt#p/u/1/VAEdRR6JPms" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/goldcityqt#p/u/1/VAEdRR6JPms</a></p>
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		<title>By: quartet-man</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080878</link>
		<dc:creator>quartet-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080878</guid>
		<description>Loving the Lamb is an awesome song. I about had a spell the first time I heard it. Mark in particular does a fabulous job on it, but the other two do as well of course. Mark is also THE baritone and a great guy. I just wanted to say that regardless of what Doug meant or his intentions. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving the Lamb is an awesome song. I about had a spell the first time I heard it. Mark in particular does a fabulous job on it, but the other two do as well of course. Mark is also THE baritone and a great guy. I just wanted to say that regardless of what Doug meant or his intentions. <img src='http://averyfineline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080864</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080864</guid>
		<description>Bryce and gina-

You are both mistaken. Bluntly saying that Mark Trammell would leave arguably the best-ever Gold City lineup, to form a "ho-hum middle tier male trio", is actually an attack on his credentials, his character, and his wisdom.

To accuse this trio of having a "chronic poverty of decent material", says that either Mark has no clue what decent songs to sing, or else, that Doug has no clue what decent spiritual songs really are, and cannot recognize one when (if) he hears one.

To accuse the trio of also having a "chronic poverty of showmanship", is to further display Doug's character, and not Mark's. The trio never, ever set out, to be "showmen". I know every member he has had, and they are not in this business to be "showmen". This comment reproaches Doug, and not Mark.

The entire commentary is off-the-wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryce and gina-</p>
<p>You are both mistaken. Bluntly saying that Mark Trammell would leave arguably the best-ever Gold City lineup, to form a &#8220;ho-hum middle tier male trio&#8221;, is actually an attack on his credentials, his character, and his wisdom.</p>
<p>To accuse this trio of having a &#8220;chronic poverty of decent material&#8221;, says that either Mark has no clue what decent songs to sing, or else, that Doug has no clue what decent spiritual songs really are, and cannot recognize one when (if) he hears one.</p>
<p>To accuse the trio of also having a &#8220;chronic poverty of showmanship&#8221;, is to further display Doug&#8217;s character, and not Mark&#8217;s. The trio never, ever set out, to be &#8220;showmen&#8221;. I know every member he has had, and they are not in this business to be &#8220;showmen&#8221;. This comment reproaches Doug, and not Mark.</p>
<p>The entire commentary is off-the-wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080828</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080828</guid>
		<description>Re:electonic shouting....i'm in no doubt that Daune Allen of ORBs is a very nice man, however on his facebook page he's always SHOUTING.I'm quite sure he doesn't mean it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:electonic shouting&#8230;.i&#8217;m in no doubt that Daune Allen of ORBs is a very nice man, however on his facebook page he&#8217;s always SHOUTING.I&#8217;m quite sure he doesn&#8217;t mean it.</p>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080775</link>
		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/08/weekend-roundup-2/#comment-1080775</guid>
		<description>I agree with you 100% Bryce! This is an example of someone trying to defend something that isn't even under attack, for whatever reason...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you 100% Bryce! This is an example of someone trying to defend something that isn&#8217;t even under attack, for whatever reason&#8230;</p>
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