Comments on: Open thread http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Thu, 24 May 2012 03:15:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Jen Abrams http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102402 Jen Abrams Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:43:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102402 Please excuse typos in #101.. My left arm is temporarily in a sling and I am typing with one hand . I meant to say that we are who Ernie is writing to ... Etc.. Please excuse typos in #101.. My left arm is temporarily in a sling and I am typing with one hand . I meant to say that we are who Ernie is writing to … Etc..

]]> By: DAVID W. http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102319 DAVID W. Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:54:19 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102319 YES #7 why ARE you a"friend"? ..Ernie was writing to his fans and friends. His fans love to hear play by play details of what the group is doing. Ernie is a classy and professional guy , and nothing is wrong with that. .. History will judge them to be the best group of all time. Until then if you do not have any uplifting or encouraging words . Keep your biting negativity to yourself. YES #7 why ARE you a”friend”? ..Ernie was writing to his fans and friends. His fans love to hear play by play details of what the group is doing. Ernie is a classy and professional guy , and nothing is wrong with that. .. History will judge them to be the best group of all time. Until then if you do not have any uplifting or encouraging words . Keep your biting negativity to yourself.

]]> By: JEN ABRAMS http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102316 JEN ABRAMS Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:23:16 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1102316 #7 Skeeter Mosquito you have shown what a miserable soul you are. Please do not try to spread your misery! ... I am a true fan and friend of Ernie / EhSS. So many like me were hovering over our computers , waiting anxiously to read and reread every word and detail of EHSS grammy experiences. We are you Ernie was writing to. .. Why are YOU a "friend" ? .. . EHSS has so many true fans because we can see and feel the spirit of GOD in their ministry and on their lives. This starts with Ernies and spreads out with the other guys. I know of very few who are as personally humble as Ernie. Ernie 's boldness relates to his belief in in GOD and his faith in prayer. Several people have left posts saying that they found JESUS through EHSS .. Particularly through Ernie singing OWAS . One of the many reason we love Ernie so much is BECAUSE he shares so much of his life and experienes with us. .... So Skeeter please "unfriend" yourself. #7 Skeeter Mosquito you have shown what a miserable soul you are. Please do not try to spread your misery! … I am a true fan and friend of Ernie / EhSS. So many like me were hovering over our computers , waiting anxiously to read and reread every word and detail of EHSS grammy experiences. We are you Ernie was writing to. .. Why are YOU a “friend” ? .. . EHSS has so many true fans because we can see and feel the spirit of GOD in their ministry and on their lives. This starts with Ernies and spreads out with the other guys. I know of very few who are as personally humble as Ernie. Ernie ’s boldness relates to his belief in in GOD and his faith in prayer. Several people have left posts saying that they found JESUS through EHSS .. Particularly through Ernie singing OWAS . One of the many reason we love Ernie so much is BECAUSE he shares so much of his life and experienes with us. …. So Skeeter please “unfriend” yourself.

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1100007 Irishlad Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:15:12 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1100007 Friday 19th February 7.30pmGMT Belfast N.Ireland.Ernie Haase and Signature Sound.10.30pmGMT Belfast and all i can say is:WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!(this from someone who's no stranger to the group). Friday 19th February 7.30pmGMT Belfast N.Ireland.Ernie Haase and Signature Sound.10.30pmGMT Belfast and all i can say is:WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!(this from someone who’s no stranger to the group).

]]> By: wackythinker http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099842 wackythinker Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:52:03 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099842 Of course the hotels raise their rates for NQC and Derby. EVERY hotel in the country does that, anytime there is a large group or convention. That's part of the business. As for restaurants, I seriously doubt they raise their prices. If the did, who could blame them, since Christians are horrible tippers, and they take up space for hours at a time without tipping appropriately. Maybe they feel that makes up for the folks they can't get into their restaurants. Welcome to the real world, folks! Of course the hotels raise their rates for NQC and Derby. EVERY hotel in the country does that, anytime there is a large group or convention. That’s part of the business.

As for restaurants, I seriously doubt they raise their prices. If the did, who could blame them, since Christians are horrible tippers, and they take up space for hours at a time without tipping appropriately. Maybe they feel that makes up for the folks they can’t get into their restaurants.

Welcome to the real world, folks!

]]> By: pj http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099784 pj Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:22:34 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099784 Anyone familiar with the Christian Music Hall of Fame? http://hallmuseum.com Anyone familiar with the Christian Music Hall of Fame? http://hallmuseum.com

]]> By: christy http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099507 christy Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:47:47 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099507 I suppuse you ment #95, #96. Anyway, did not realize that. Also thought it intersting that Weston Hinson and By Faith are releasing a new cd in March. They sing many of the same songs that Eric sings. I just now finding Weston's group. They seem to be at many of the same venues as the Crabbs and Mike Bowing. I suppuse you ment #95, #96. Anyway, did not realize that. Also thought it intersting that Weston Hinson and By Faith are releasing a new cd in March. They sing many of the same songs that Eric sings. I just now finding Weston’s group. They seem to be at many of the same venues as the Crabbs and Mike Bowing.

]]> By: Andrew S. http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099476 Andrew S. Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:43:21 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1099476 #94- The female who sings in the group is Rod Burton's (the man who owns YMR Music Productions) wife, Kelly. #94- The female who sings in the group is Rod Burton’s (the man who owns YMR Music Productions) wife, Kelly.

]]> By: christy http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098952 christy Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:43:52 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098952 Eric Hinson is "on the road again" with his new group Hinson Revival. His website has some youtube videos on it. Thought it was interesting that the other male group member happens to be owner of YMR Music Productions, parent company of Branson Gospel Music Covention. It never hurts to have connections. Eric Hinson is “on the road again” with his new group Hinson Revival. His website has some youtube videos on it. Thought it was interesting that the other male group member happens to be owner of YMR Music Productions, parent company of Branson Gospel Music Covention. It never hurts to have connections.

]]> By: Knows Nothing http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098496 Knows Nothing Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:59:21 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098496 TO #93 Justafan: GOOD GRIEF CHARLIE BROWN TO #93 Justafan: GOOD GRIEF CHARLIE BROWN

]]> By: justafan http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098407 justafan Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:05:20 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098407 I caught Gold City’s new configuration recently. The concert was held at an old, high-ceilinged baptist church, which may or may not have prompted Gold City to start the concert in the fashion they did. The guys walked up to the top step and sang an abbreviated version of One Scarred Hand, accapella and without microphones. The acoustics in the church were very good. It went over quite well, though there seemed to be a few individuals in the church who leaned to the Pentecostal side of the fence and thus were sort of “gassing” the group and the rest of the audience up. It really was a hit though, in spite of the Pentecostal antics. For a while (until the antics began), it had the pin-drop effect. I sat near the back of the church, and Tim Riley was still audible despite singing with no microphone. When Josh Cobb took the lead in the chorus, he stayed controlled and on top of the melody. He didn’t – as he did later in the concert – do any vocal gymnastics. Great way to start the concert. As soloists, those four guys are as talented as it gets in Southern Gospel music. I was surprised though at various elements throughout the evening. When Josh Cobb takes the lead during ensemble work, he at times simply overpowers Taliaferro and Daniel Riley. Also, when Cobb is leading, he doesn’t always sing the song in a fashion to where it allows the harmony singers easier access to create a smooth blend (when he takes the lead in “I Cast My Bread Upon the Water” was a good example of that). Without question (and I’m surprised at just how amazingly talented he is), Cobb has the biggest tenor voice in Southern Gospel music besides David Phelps…and it’s not even close. Those two are at another level. I was amazed at his range and how full he sounds hitting almost every note. Even the best tenors out there get a little thin or pitchy when having to get to the upper end of their range. With the exception of a couple of instances, Cobb sounded amazingly full-voiced while hitting those “Gold City” notes (like near the end of “When He Blessed My Soul”). We all know that there’s tenor singing, and then, there’s singing with Gold City and the Kingdom Heirs. Cobb is one small rung below David Phelps. I know, most of you won’t believe that. I wouldn’t either unless I heard it with my own ears. I say that, and I’ve honestly never been much of a Josh Cobb fan. I am now. My hat is off to you Josh Cobb. God has blessed you with an amazing voice, but you’re an unbelievable singer on top of it. A lot of people won’t understand that. Taliaferro is blessed with a rich, soulful voice as well. I love to hear his voice a lot of times. However, I don’t fashion him to be an above average singer. He’s not easy to sing with sometimes, though he does seem to be getting better in some instances (less freelancing and more staying in the pocket – which allows for a better, more full blend to be achieved). Tim Riley sounds unbelievable. As good as he is though, I don’t care to hear three or more bass leads in a given concert, even from a legend such as Tim Riley. Good bass singing is great for a song or two. It’s simply an opinion, but the general fan doesn’t care to hear it that often. I think the listener gets caught up with the lowness of the bass singer’s voice as opposed to getting the intended message from the song. I’ve said it before and will say it again, being off the road for a few years did something wonderful for Riley’s voice. His tones are more well rounded. He’s less sharp. He sounds wonderful. Surprisingly, “I’m Not Giving Up” was the biggest hit of the evening with the crowd. They absolutely loved it. It was very quality. Cobb took that tune to another level when he assumed the lead briefly in that final chorus. As great as Josh was/is, I didn’t care for him singing a solo – with no backup vocals – on ‘Satisfied (Hallelujah, I Have Found Him).’ I used to love the song “It’s Still the Cross,” but it seemed to have a lackluster effect with the group closing the program with it. I’m honestly not sure why. My biggest issue was the sound board. I realize that the gentleman running the sound is simply trying to make the group sound as best it possibly can. However, he’s pushing way too much when it comes time for Tim Riley to hit a low note or for a big ending. I’m a very young guy, but it was simply blasting at times. I’m surprised that nobody from the church complained. I was in the back. I can’t image the volume level for those sitting in the front couple of rows. He was playing with the sound constantly, throughout each song. Get it set and leave it alone, except for a few exceptions. Sit back and listen and only adjust what “needs” to be adjusted. Those four guys standing up there are pros. They’ll create a blend. They’ll pull in or pull out when needed and inflect in whatever way is required. They hear it well enough to do that. I loved Mercy’s Mark’s version of “Where Is God.” Gold City sings its version fine, but the soundtrack sounds like it was comprised at Dumplin Jiblet Studios. That country sound is not good on that track. Bruce did a solid job on “Look Who Just Checked In,” but I’m surprised they’ve started doing that song again. To me, that’s a Jonathan Wilburn song. He sold it. He was very animated while singing that particular song, and therefore, I identify it with Jonathan. I do look forward to hearing more of Gold City. I can’t wait until they get a project finished. Note to Josh…get rid of the bow tie man. You’re too great of vocalist for that fashion distraction. Best wishes to GC. Look forward to next time. I caught Gold City’s new configuration recently. The concert was held at an old, high-ceilinged baptist church, which may or may not have prompted Gold City to start the concert in the fashion they did. The guys walked up to the top step and sang an abbreviated version of One Scarred Hand, accapella and without microphones. The acoustics in the church were very good. It went over quite well, though there seemed to be a few individuals in the church who leaned to the Pentecostal side of the fence and thus were sort of “gassing” the group and the rest of the audience up. It really was a hit though, in spite of the Pentecostal antics. For a while (until the antics began), it had the pin-drop effect. I sat near the back of the church, and Tim Riley was still audible despite singing with no microphone. When Josh Cobb took the lead in the chorus, he stayed controlled and on top of the melody. He didn’t – as he did later in the concert – do any vocal gymnastics. Great way to start the concert. As soloists, those four guys are as talented as it gets in Southern Gospel music. I was surprised though at various elements throughout the evening. When Josh Cobb takes the lead during ensemble work, he at times simply overpowers Taliaferro and Daniel Riley. Also, when Cobb is leading, he doesn’t always sing the song in a fashion to where it allows the harmony singers easier access to create a smooth blend (when he takes the lead in “I Cast My Bread Upon the Water” was a good example of that). Without question (and I’m surprised at just how amazingly talented he is), Cobb has the biggest tenor voice in Southern Gospel music besides David Phelps…and it’s not even close. Those two are at another level. I was amazed at his range and how full he sounds hitting almost every note. Even the best tenors out there get a little thin or pitchy when having to get to the upper end of their range. With the exception of a couple of instances, Cobb sounded amazingly full-voiced while hitting those “Gold City” notes (like near the end of “When He Blessed My Soul”). We all know that there’s tenor singing, and then, there’s singing with Gold City and the Kingdom Heirs. Cobb is one small rung below David Phelps. I know, most of you won’t believe that. I wouldn’t either unless I heard it with my own ears. I say that, and I’ve honestly never been much of a Josh Cobb fan. I am now. My hat is off to you Josh Cobb. God has blessed you with an amazing voice, but you’re an unbelievable singer on top of it. A lot of people won’t understand that. Taliaferro is blessed with a rich, soulful voice as well. I love to hear his voice a lot of times. However, I don’t fashion him to be an above average singer. He’s not easy to sing with sometimes, though he does seem to be getting better in some instances (less freelancing and more staying in the pocket – which allows for a better, more full blend to be achieved). Tim Riley sounds unbelievable. As good as he is though, I don’t care to hear three or more bass leads in a given concert, even from a legend such as Tim Riley. Good bass singing is great for a song or two. It’s simply an opinion, but the general fan doesn’t care to hear it that often. I think the listener gets caught up with the lowness of the bass singer’s voice as opposed to getting the intended message from the song. I’ve said it before and will say it again, being off the road for a few years did something wonderful for Riley’s voice. His tones are more well rounded. He’s less sharp. He sounds wonderful. Surprisingly, “I’m Not Giving Up” was the biggest hit of the evening with the crowd. They absolutely loved it. It was very quality. Cobb took that tune to another level when he assumed the lead briefly in that final chorus. As great as Josh was/is, I didn’t care for him singing a solo – with no backup vocals – on ‘Satisfied (Hallelujah, I Have Found Him).’ I used to love the song “It’s Still the Cross,” but it seemed to have a lackluster effect with the group closing the program with it. I’m honestly not sure why. My biggest issue was the sound board. I realize that the gentleman running the sound is simply trying to make the group sound as best it possibly can. However, he’s pushing way too much when it comes time for Tim Riley to hit a low note or for a big ending. I’m a very young guy, but it was simply blasting at times. I’m surprised that nobody from the church complained. I was in the back. I can’t image the volume level for those sitting in the front couple of rows. He was playing with the sound constantly, throughout each song. Get it set and leave it alone, except for a few exceptions. Sit back and listen and only adjust what “needs” to be adjusted. Those four guys standing up there are pros. They’ll create a blend. They’ll pull in or pull out when needed and inflect in whatever way is required. They hear it well enough to do that. I loved Mercy’s Mark’s version of “Where Is God.” Gold City sings its version fine, but the soundtrack sounds like it was comprised at Dumplin Jiblet Studios. That country sound is not good on that track. Bruce did a solid job on “Look Who Just Checked In,” but I’m surprised they’ve started doing that song again. To me, that’s a Jonathan Wilburn song. He sold it. He was very animated while singing that particular song, and therefore, I identify it with Jonathan. I do look forward to hearing more of Gold City. I can’t wait until they get a project finished. Note to Josh…get rid of the bow tie man. You’re too great of vocalist for that fashion distraction. Best wishes to GC. Look forward to next time.

]]> By: Rob http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098171 Rob Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:37:51 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1098171 Couple of things come to mind why people don't tip more at the NQC in Louisville. First is that the motel/hotel industry jacks prices up way above the average price. Second the resturants do the same thing jack up prices. I've been told the only other thing in town that has prices as high as KQC is the Kentucky Derby. What a difference in the type of people each group pulls. A word to the business in Louisville, If you expect more tips don't be jacking up prices. Couple of things come to mind why people don’t tip more at the NQC in Louisville. First is that the motel/hotel industry jacks prices up way above the average price. Second the resturants do the same thing jack up prices. I’ve been told the only other thing in town that has prices as high as KQC is the Kentucky Derby. What a difference in the type of people each group pulls.
A word to the business in Louisville, If you expect more tips don’t be jacking up prices.

]]> By: Irishlad http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097532 Irishlad Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:45:35 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097532 Les Beasley with pneumonia and congestive heart failure? Les Beasley with pneumonia and congestive heart failure?

]]> By: Chris http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097469 Chris Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:05:53 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097469 Did anyone read the comments after the Louisville "Courier Journal" story ( http://www.courier-journal.com/comments/article/20100210/NEWS01/2100400/Big-gospel-songfest-to-remain-in-Louisville ) about the NQC staying in Louisville? To borrow from Avery, Money quote: "I hope the group learns how to tip the servers in the restaurants and not "camp out" for hours gossiping and talking so the 2 or 3 tables each server has are not tied up so they make only the measly 7 or 8 dollars they leave after 2+ hours of griping about the food, demanding things and taking up space. Their attitude is horrible, they leave tracts instead of money and servers groan when they walk in the door...." Interesting. Did anyone read the comments after the Louisville “Courier Journal” story ( http://www.courier-journal.com/comments/article/20100210/NEWS01/2100400/Big-gospel-songfest-to-remain-in-Louisville ) about the NQC staying in Louisville?

To borrow from Avery, Money quote:

“I hope the group learns how to tip the servers in the restaurants and not “camp out” for hours gossiping and talking so the 2 or 3 tables each server has are not tied up so they make only the measly 7 or 8 dollars they leave after 2+ hours of griping about the food, demanding things and taking up space. Their attitude is horrible, they leave tracts instead of money and servers groan when they walk in the door….”

Interesting.

]]> By: KC http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097299 KC Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:40:42 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/open-thread-30/#comment-1097299 They should move NQC to St. Louis. Good mid-point for sg lovers, and the country. Touristy. Tons of coliseums. Easy to access. And I wouldn't have to travel 5 minutes, LOL. The Lesters are here, too. And Vestal Goodman's daughter. I'm trying to think of any other reasons, relevant or not, LOL. They should move NQC to St. Louis. Good mid-point for sg lovers, and the country. Touristy. Tons of coliseums. Easy to access. And I wouldn’t have to travel 5 minutes, LOL. The Lesters are here, too. And Vestal Goodman’s daughter. I’m trying to think of any other reasons, relevant or not, LOL.

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