Comments on: Quote of the day http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/ Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music Thu, 24 May 2012 03:16:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Tjeerd http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1096167 Tjeerd Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:20:08 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1096167 I had a old university friend Jacobus, who was really into Brian Eno. I recall hanging out in his downtown Toronto warehouse studio apt. drinking green tea, while reading the likes of Russell Kirk, Henry Hazlett, Hans Sennholz, and Leo Strauss. All with the smooth, somewhat irregular sound of Brian Eno. I had a old university friend Jacobus, who was really into Brian Eno.
I recall hanging out in his downtown Toronto warehouse studio apt. drinking green tea, while reading the likes of Russell Kirk, Henry Hazlett, Hans Sennholz, and Leo Strauss. All with the smooth, somewhat irregular sound of Brian Eno.

]]> By: Bryce http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1094540 Bryce Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:10:37 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1094540 It's because, quite possibly, much of the material sung by the choir is not incompatible with his own aberrant theology, or lack thereof. Or, it could be due to one or more seared consciences. It’s because, quite possibly, much of the material sung by the choir is not incompatible with his own aberrant theology, or lack thereof. Or, it could be due to one or more seared consciences.

]]> By: wackythinker http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1094142 wackythinker Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:27:58 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1094142 I guess I just don't understand why someone, who is a self-proclaimed atheist, would want to spend his free time singing what he claims is a lie. Aren't them other opportunities for using your talent and love for music? Isn't there community theatre, or karaoke bars, or SOME thing that would fit better in your belief system? I've heard it said that there really are no atheists. Only people who WISH there were no God, so they could live like the devil. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've heard it somewhere. And it kinda makes sense to me. I guess I just don’t understand why someone, who is a self-proclaimed atheist, would want to spend his free time singing what he claims is a lie. Aren’t them other opportunities for using your talent and love for music? Isn’t there community theatre, or karaoke bars, or SOME thing that would fit better in your belief system?

I’ve heard it said that there really are no atheists. Only people who WISH there were no God, so they could live like the devil. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I’ve heard it somewhere. And it kinda makes sense to me.

]]> By: Michael McIlwain http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1093499 Michael McIlwain Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:36:17 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1093499 I have Gavin Bryars "Jesus Blood Has Never Failed Me Yet" that was released in the 1990s. However, Brian Eno's record company released a condensed version of this song on an album in the 1970s. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of that album? I have Gavin Bryars “Jesus Blood Has Never Failed Me Yet” that was released in the 1990s. However, Brian Eno’s record company released a condensed version of this song on an album in the 1970s. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of that album?

]]> By: Lovelife http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092476 Lovelife Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:52:10 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092476 #6: Well said. Exactly what I was thinking. #6: Well said. Exactly what I was thinking.

]]> By: WB http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092307 WB Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:30:06 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092307 #2 & #3. Standards? Our church has no standards. We let and invite all sinners in the door. Our choir, orchestra and worship pastor are there on a Sunday morning to help lead the congregation in meaningful worship of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I would hope that all leaders on the platform are born-again believers and not just there because God has blessed them with musical talent. If a self-professing atheist wanted to join our choir, I believer our response would be, first come to a saving faith in Christ, confessing your sins and accepting his righteousness for eternal life. Have a seat in a pew and pray God would open your eyes to the truth of his gospel. After that, we'll talk. #2 & #3. Standards? Our church has no standards. We let and invite all sinners in the door.

Our choir, orchestra and worship pastor are there on a Sunday morning to help lead the congregation in meaningful worship of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I would hope that all leaders on the platform are born-again believers and not just there because God has blessed them with musical talent. If a self-professing atheist wanted to join our choir, I believer our response would be, first come to a saving faith in Christ, confessing your sins and accepting his righteousness for eternal life. Have a seat in a pew and pray God would open your eyes to the truth of his gospel.
After that, we’ll talk.

]]> By: NG http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092117 NG Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:27:56 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092117 This section from the article on acoustics in churches is as interesting to me as the one Avery lists: ""If you think of the mid- to late-50s when all of this started to happen for me, the experience of listening to sound was so different from now. Stereo didn't exist. If you listened to music outside of church, apart from live music, which was very rare, it was through tiny speakers. It was a nice experience but a very small experience. So to go into a church, which is a specially designed and echoey space, and it has an organ, and my grandfather built the organ in the church where we went, suddenly to hear music and singing was amazing. It was like hearing someone's album on a tiny transistor radio and then you go and see them in a 60,000-seater. It's huge by comparison. That had a lot to do with my feeling about sound and space, which became a big theme for me. How does space make a difference to sound, what's the difference between hearing something in this room and then another room. Can you imagine other rooms where you can hear music? It also made a difference to how I feel about the communality of music in that the music I liked the most, singing in church, was done by a group of people who were not skilled – they were just a group of people, I knew them in the rest of the week as the coal man and the baker." This section from the article on acoustics in churches is as interesting to me as the one Avery lists:

“”If you think of the mid- to late-50s when all of this started to happen for me, the experience of listening to sound was so different from now. Stereo didn’t exist. If you listened to music outside of church, apart from live music, which was very rare, it was through tiny speakers. It was a nice experience but a very small experience. So to go into a church, which is a specially designed and echoey space, and it has an organ, and my grandfather built the organ in the church where we went, suddenly to hear music and singing was amazing. It was like hearing someone’s album on a tiny transistor radio and then you go and see them in a 60,000-seater. It’s huge by comparison. That had a lot to do with my feeling about sound and space, which became a big theme for me. How does space make a difference to sound, what’s the difference between hearing something in this room and then another room. Can you imagine other rooms where you can hear music? It also made a difference to how I feel about the communality of music in that the music I liked the most, singing in church, was done by a group of people who were not skilled – they were just a group of people, I knew them in the rest of the week as the coal man and the baker.”

]]> By: NG http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092107 NG Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:08:22 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092107 Eno is an amazing multi-talented person. Wikipedia entry gives a good overview of his accomplishments especially musical ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Eno Eno is an amazing multi-talented person. Wikipedia entry gives a good overview of his accomplishments especially musical ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Eno

]]> By: DD http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092048 DD Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:18:03 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1092048 #2 - I'd wager to say that there may be some unsaved folks in your choir. At least this guy is open about his questioning. Opening the door to this guy gives an opportunity to break down those walls and hopefully see him on our side. Having "standards" is putting up walls to keep "those people" out. Just my $.02, your mileage may vary. #2 - I’d wager to say that there may be some unsaved folks in your choir. At least this guy is open about his questioning. Opening the door to this guy gives an opportunity to break down those walls and hopefully see him on our side. Having “standards” is putting up walls to keep “those people” out. Just my $.02, your mileage may vary.

]]> By: Samuel http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1091813 Samuel Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:57:04 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1091813 What is beyond me is why they let an open Atheist in a gospel choir. It must be a different choir than mine, because we have some standards. What is beyond me is why they let an open Atheist in a gospel choir. It must be a different choir than mine, because we have some standards.

]]> By: Janet B http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1091768 Janet B Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:43:40 +0000 http://averyfineline.com/2010/01/31/quote-of-the-day-25/#comment-1091768 Hmmm....well then, I guess the whole message of "Sinner Saved By Grace" would sail right over him. Hmmm….well then, I guess the whole message of “Sinner Saved By Grace” would sail right over him.

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