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	<title>Comments on: Avery&#8217;s wish list</title>
	<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/</link>
	<description>Criticism and commentary on southern gospel music</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1110266</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It was day-old bread, so it shouldn't matter."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was day-old bread, so it shouldn&#8217;t matter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cdguy</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1110265</link>
		<dc:creator>cdguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1110265</guid>
		<description>There have been several live sg albums lately.  In addition to the ones mentioned above, Legacy 5 did one a couple of years ago, and Greater Vision just released one.  

As for the copyright question, making a copy for your own use is not illegal.  It's when either the original or the copy changes hands that there's a problem.  And being out-of-print does not negate the copyright.  It still requires written permission of the copyright holder.

And it doesn't matter if you can't find the copyright holder.  That would be about like saying, "I couldn't find the owner of the store, so I just took that loaf of bread."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been several live sg albums lately.  In addition to the ones mentioned above, Legacy 5 did one a couple of years ago, and Greater Vision just released one.  </p>
<p>As for the copyright question, making a copy for your own use is not illegal.  It&#8217;s when either the original or the copy changes hands that there&#8217;s a problem.  And being out-of-print does not negate the copyright.  It still requires written permission of the copyright holder.</p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t matter if you can&#8217;t find the copyright holder.  That would be about like saying, &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t find the owner of the store, so I just took that loaf of bread.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108527</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108527</guid>
		<description>Re: #35's W.B. Nowlin story...

Nowlin stories abound in gospel lore...and it was apparent to a lot of artists he encountered that groups' talking on stage was a concern of his.

I am aware of a story involving the time that Nowlin attended a concert in Texas that featured the Couriers, who never worked a Nowlin promoted event, but who were also very aware of him and his reputation.

After the concert, so the story goes, Nowlin had a conversation with the Couriers' Dave Kyllonen, which went like this:


W.B.- Whenever I go to hear a group, I put fifteen pennies in the left 
pocket of my suit coat .  Every time that group sings a song, I transfer a 
penny from my left pocket to my right pocket.  I do that to keep track of 
how many songs they give the people, as opposed to talking.

Dave- Well, how did we do?

W.B.-  I now only have one penny in my left pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #35&#8217;s W.B. Nowlin story&#8230;</p>
<p>Nowlin stories abound in gospel lore&#8230;and it was apparent to a lot of artists he encountered that groups&#8217; talking on stage was a concern of his.</p>
<p>I am aware of a story involving the time that Nowlin attended a concert in Texas that featured the Couriers, who never worked a Nowlin promoted event, but who were also very aware of him and his reputation.</p>
<p>After the concert, so the story goes, Nowlin had a conversation with the Couriers&#8217; Dave Kyllonen, which went like this:</p>
<p>W.B.- Whenever I go to hear a group, I put fifteen pennies in the left<br />
pocket of my suit coat .  Every time that group sings a song, I transfer a<br />
penny from my left pocket to my right pocket.  I do that to keep track of<br />
how many songs they give the people, as opposed to talking.</p>
<p>Dave- Well, how did we do?</p>
<p>W.B.-  I now only have one penny in my left pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108410</link>
		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108410</guid>
		<description>A bit off topic, but I am hoping someone may be able to enlighten me.  If you've ordered any of the DVDs for sale on this site, can you tell me what the quality is like?  Are they worth it?  Seems like a lot of not-so-famous groups.  But as a collector, I can overlook that for the other groups I may like.  However, I'm wondering if they're worth it.

http://www.sgmfanfair.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit off topic, but I am hoping someone may be able to enlighten me.  If you&#8217;ve ordered any of the DVDs for sale on this site, can you tell me what the quality is like?  Are they worth it?  Seems like a lot of not-so-famous groups.  But as a collector, I can overlook that for the other groups I may like.  However, I&#8217;m wondering if they&#8217;re worth it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sgmfanfair.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sgmfanfair.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108347</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1108347</guid>
		<description>On the thought of live projects-

I think one of the best live projects that has come around in a while is the kingdom heir's newest one.  

Passionate singing with wonderful nuances that are not on the studio version.  Great emcee work/talking.  A great live band (yes they do use split tracks but there are times in the recording where you can tell its all band), enthusiastic crowd.  

Just all around a wonderful live recording from top to bottom...probably one of the gold standards for modern live videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the thought of live projects-</p>
<p>I think one of the best live projects that has come around in a while is the kingdom heir&#8217;s newest one.  </p>
<p>Passionate singing with wonderful nuances that are not on the studio version.  Great emcee work/talking.  A great live band (yes they do use split tracks but there are times in the recording where you can tell its all band), enthusiastic crowd.  </p>
<p>Just all around a wonderful live recording from top to bottom&#8230;probably one of the gold standards for modern live videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107597</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107597</guid>
		<description>#43 Got it i one Wadey buddy,and i didn't even know about the "repeat performance".The word contrived springs to mind, the truth be told the whole thing left me feeling uncomfortable,not in a guilty way mind...just slightly embarrassed by the mawkishness of it.Don't forget our unbelieving friends who are normally unexposed to such an insular genre of music could easily doubt the sincerity of such an outpouring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 Got it i one Wadey buddy,and i didn&#8217;t even know about the &#8220;repeat performance&#8221;.The word contrived springs to mind, the truth be told the whole thing left me feeling uncomfortable,not in a guilty way mind&#8230;just slightly embarrassed by the mawkishness of it.Don&#8217;t forget our unbelieving friends who are normally unexposed to such an insular genre of music could easily doubt the sincerity of such an outpouring.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107456</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107456</guid>
		<description>Charlie... I first thought of Ed Crawford on WHEN MOMMA PRAYED on Mississippi Live. He cried at the same place ever night much like Pegs Shoes aFLYIN' oft did.

But I am SURE Irish Laddy will clarify!! He's not usually shy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie&#8230; I first thought of Ed Crawford on WHEN MOMMA PRAYED on Mississippi Live. He cried at the same place ever night much like Pegs Shoes aFLYIN&#8217; oft did.</p>
<p>But I am SURE Irish Laddy will clarify!! He&#8217;s not usually shy.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Brady</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107385</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107385</guid>
		<description>The Irish can sure be a hard hearted lot...... 

Tearful in Carolina...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish can sure be a hard hearted lot&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Tearful in Carolina&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Sexton</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107064</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Sexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107064</guid>
		<description>#40 - Which K'men LP?  "Chattanooga Live?"?  You talkin' about RDR just before he encored 'The Old Ship Of Zion" ?  If so, I hope you were just joking.  That was someone who was truly feeling the spirit of the moment.  If you were serious, I'll be back later. I've got some praying to do for a certain Irishladdy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 - Which K&#8217;men LP?  &#8220;Chattanooga Live?&#8221;?  You talkin&#8217; about RDR just before he encored &#8216;The Old Ship Of Zion&#8221; ?  If so, I hope you were just joking.  That was someone who was truly feeling the spirit of the moment.  If you were serious, I&#8217;ll be back later. I&#8217;ve got some praying to do for a certain Irishladdy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Irishlad</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107037</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idon't mind talking on a live album,what i hate is crying.I remember a live Kingsmen LP from the late 70's when a certain guy got to testifyin' and then blubbering..say no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idon&#8217;t mind talking on a live album,what i hate is crying.I remember a live Kingsmen LP from the late 70&#8217;s when a certain guy got to testifyin&#8217; and then blubbering..say no more.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1107006</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh  BDM... They DO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh  BDM&#8230; They DO!!</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106969</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all this talk of old live albums has made me want to convert some of mine into the digital realm. I had an uncle give me a stack of old records from a house that he cleaned out to sell. there is a live double albums of the singing rambo's, a downings album called birthplace, the original alleluia praise gathering album by the gaithers, the best of the sego brothers and naomi on scripture records, and a lewis family record called lewis country on canaan records. i haven't listene to any of these yet, but they all look to be in very good shape. i hope to find a hidden gem or two among these songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all this talk of old live albums has made me want to convert some of mine into the digital realm. I had an uncle give me a stack of old records from a house that he cleaned out to sell. there is a live double albums of the singing rambo&#8217;s, a downings album called birthplace, the original alleluia praise gathering album by the gaithers, the best of the sego brothers and naomi on scripture records, and a lewis family record called lewis country on canaan records. i haven&#8217;t listene to any of these yet, but they all look to be in very good shape. i hope to find a hidden gem or two among these songs.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Murray</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106917</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bruce Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106917</guid>
		<description>Modern "live" recordings feel fake when the artists use tracks. By the time vocals are overdubbed, etc., they may as well just dub applause over the studio CD and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern &#8220;live&#8221; recordings feel fake when the artists use tracks. By the time vocals are overdubbed, etc., they may as well just dub applause over the studio CD and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Stuart</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106840</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106840</guid>
		<description>Just like when they made a double CD set of the Kingsmen's Stand Up at Opryland and Mississippi Live, they took all the talking out and put only the songs on it. Maybe cause of space on the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like when they made a double CD set of the Kingsmen&#8217;s Stand Up at Opryland and Mississippi Live, they took all the talking out and put only the songs on it. Maybe cause of space on the project.</p>
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		<title>By: John C</title>
		<link>http://averyfineline.com/2010/03/08/averys-wish-list/#comment-1106836</link>
		<dc:creator>John C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like a lot of folks enjoyed the Oak's live recordings.  So did I. I always thought Duane Allen was a great emcee.  Never said too much and what he said was thought provoking and not preachy.

In light of the current discussions that are on this thread, I've heard the tale that the great promoter W.B. Nowlin got tired of hearing endless talking from the stage.  The groups complained that they needed to "talk" in order to sell product.  Nowlin disagreed, but needed just the right group to prove his point.

Nowlin made a proposition to Duane Allen and the Oak Ridge Boys: Go on stage, sing your entire set, don't say a word of introduction to any of the songs, and if you don't sell as much or more product than you did the last time in Ft. Worth, then I'll make up the difference.

Needless to say, the product sales were tremendous that evening for the Oak Ridge Boys.  They were happy, the audience was happy, and once again, WB Nowlin was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a lot of folks enjoyed the Oak&#8217;s live recordings.  So did I. I always thought Duane Allen was a great emcee.  Never said too much and what he said was thought provoking and not preachy.</p>
<p>In light of the current discussions that are on this thread, I&#8217;ve heard the tale that the great promoter W.B. Nowlin got tired of hearing endless talking from the stage.  The groups complained that they needed to &#8220;talk&#8221; in order to sell product.  Nowlin disagreed, but needed just the right group to prove his point.</p>
<p>Nowlin made a proposition to Duane Allen and the Oak Ridge Boys: Go on stage, sing your entire set, don&#8217;t say a word of introduction to any of the songs, and if you don&#8217;t sell as much or more product than you did the last time in Ft. Worth, then I&#8217;ll make up the difference.</p>
<p>Needless to say, the product sales were tremendous that evening for the Oak Ridge Boys.  They were happy, the audience was happy, and once again, WB Nowlin was correct.</p>
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