August Recess

I’ll be away for a few weeks for some pleasure and a lot of work, which means I’ll probably miss Avery’s sixth anniversary on the 15th. I’ll still try to muster some thoughts shortly after I’m back but in the meantime, thanks for six interesting years.

PS: Consider this your sandbox while I’m gone.

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  1. Aaron Swain wrote:

    Usually whenever Avery takes a break, either one huge thing takes place in the SG world or several big things do. We shall see…

  2. DanKeeton wrote:

    Be sure to pray for Tracy Stuffle who they think had a mild heart attack. Get well soon Tracy!

  3. Jake wrote:

    OK, Doug is gone for a while, so does that mean this is going to turn into a gay debate or an EHSS bashing?

    Or are we going to actually talk about something worthwhile?

  4. NG wrote:

    Interesting comment from Jonathan Sawrie’s latest blog on SGM Radio.

    “After listening to several hours of Country, I’m wondering where it went. Sounded like a bunch of Pop music with some steel and fiddle thrown in the mix . . . made me think of the duet by Alan Jackson and George Strait from 2000 entitled “Murder on Music Row”. It . . . declared that traditional artists like Merle Haggard, George Jones, and “Ol’ Hank wouldn’t have a chance on today’s radio”.

    That in turn led to my remembering a road trip from last year when I was able to tune in to a Southern Gospel radio station for a hundred miles or so which left me wondering: Whatever happened to Gospel music? I’m afraid all we’ve got left is “Southern”. Actually, if you were to take out the lyrics and play only the soundtrack, I’m afraid I couldn’t tell a Top 40 Country song from a Top 80 Southern Gospel song.

    I don’t know if murder’s been committed or not, but I really have to wonder if Hovie, Easmon, or Ol’ J.D. would have a chance on today’s radio.”

    The full article is here:

  5. NG wrote:

    The Best of The Hoppers DVD reached #2 on Billboard’s video chart in its first week out. The CD entered the Billboard Heatseeker chart at #4; the Nielsen SoundScan Southern Gospel chart at #1 and the Contemporary Christian chart at #10.

    Was it Avery who recently suggested the Perrys had overtaken the Hoppers as top mixed group?

  6. RF wrote:

    Sorry to hear about Tracey. Hope he gets well soon.

    Now, let’s play nice, Kiddies :-).

  7. Mark wrote:

    NG-That’s a natural progression in music. If everyone still sounded like they did 30 to 50 years ago the industry would be in much worse shape don’t you think? I think you can trace the changes from the traditional wounds of male quartets to the more modern sounds of some of today’s groups.

  8. HOPTOit wrote:

    The Hoppers have always had a level of classiness and excellence about them that is not achieved by most SG groups, even top-tier ones.

    Congrats to them for this achievement!

  9. Andrew S. wrote:

    #5- The Hoppers have more money to throw behind recordings and promotions. That’s why they seem to have the upper hand. And if that video cover didn’t have “Gaither Gospel Series” scrolled across the top or somewhere else on it, they most likely wouldn’t hit the #2 spot on Billboard. How many other Hoppers albums have made a significant march to the upper regions of the chart??

    In my opinion and several opinions of others, the Perrys have the upper hand in talent. And I think that is to what Mr. Avery was referring originally.

  10. RDB wrote:

    I haven’t had much interest in the Hoppers for years. Let’s give credit where credit is due, though. The Gaither Gospel Series doesn’t hurt, but not every DVD in the Gaither Gospel Series goes to the top, so the Hoppers can take some credit surely.

  11. RDB wrote:

    Oh yes, just because it’s our sandbox doesn’t mean we’re allowed to throw the sand in each others eyes. Also, Jake, I’m not fooled. You’re just trying to get people started. Let’s not rise to the bait, folks.

  12. lovelife wrote:

    #9..Gotta agree with ya on this one. The Perry’s do have upper hand on talent and class…I use to be a Hoppers fan, but, not so much now. I’ll keep my reasons to myself. Be in prayer today for all of The Perrys. The devil is working really hard to try and keep the gospel from being spread. We also need to continue to remember the Bowlings and I’m sure there are others dealing with situations we don’t even know about.

  13. The Art Coach wrote:

    Question: what % of the time do you mute or pause music that plays on the opening page of an artists website?

  14. Rick in southGeorgia wrote:

    Re:#13- I always do. I don’t care for music suddenly blaring out at me. I like to choose whether or not to listen. To me, it is like barging into my house without knocking first.

  15. LS wrote:

    #13…I mute the opening page almost ALL of the time! Some pages are so much louder than others, you never know who’s going to blast you. Also, when I’m using my work computer to quickly check a concert date or a new CD, I don’t want to disturb the entire office. (It’s okay…my work is SG-related so I’m not slacking…much!)

  16. quartet-man wrote:

    #13 Most of the time, possibly all of it.

  17. cynical one wrote:

    NG, That debate has been going on for at least as long as I can remember, and I ain’t young. About 50 years ago, country singer Patsy Cline was quoted as complaining to her producer Owen Bradley that the songs she was required to record were “just nothing but pop songs”. And his reply was that she was “just nothing but a pop singer.”

    And 20 or more years ago, when Garth Brooks made is debut on the Grand Ole Opry, Roy Acuff stated, “That ain’t country.”

    And I’m sure 50-60 years ago, people probably complained about the modern stylings of the Statesmen, and all their choreography (and let’s not talk again about how tame that was, compared to EHSS). Remember, Elvis learned his leg twitch thing from Big Chief.

    Pop music fans were upset at the onslaught of Rock & Roll. I’m sure many were appauled when swing first started.

    David’s mother probably told him to “put down that stupid harp and make some REAL music.”

    Can we say “nostalgia”, boys and girls?

  18. Billy Joel wrote:

    “The good ole’ days weren’t always good. And tomorrow ain’t as bad as it seems.”

  19. Mike McIlwain wrote:

    #13, Art Coach, I mute it 100% of the time when it is loud and obnoxious. When it is at a sane volume, I mute it about 40% of the time.

  20. Not Ernie Haase wrote:

    Can anyone tell me, legitimately, why so many gospel groups BLAST their tracks at concerts? Even in small venues they will blow you out of your seat.

  21. Mark wrote:

    #12 I don’t want this to sound heartless because I really do want a great outcome for Tracy but how in the world is it the devil trying to stop the spread of the gospel when we know that years of being obese significanly increases your chance of cardiovascular desease? Damn devil made me do it… Doesn’t ring true

  22. Mark wrote:

    #13 I always mute it.

  23. Al wrote:

    #7 Answer to question…..NO

  24. noninsider wrote:

    I mute every time. Some artists though are smart enough to NOT pull this stunt… But I could list many artists that I suppose think that people enjoy being blasted every time they open up their website… Well to you artists out there the majority of us DON”T!

  25. Auke wrote:

    What i personally think is lacking in SGM is excitement…EH&SS have peaked the excitement meter for a while, and are here to stay…don’t know if that is a good or bad thing. There’s just not a group around that has something really special…..and with that i mean within the realm of top-acts! I used to buy all quartet music…but i stopped doing that because they pretty much all sound the same…and with the same i mean…too polished,too loud, and too stacked…

    I only buy stuff by the GVB…and that’s not really SGM…but they have a very good and disctinctive sound…i love Michael English..and i like the new album.

  26. Auke wrote:

    btw this music form is dying…slowly but surely.

  27. joe wrote:

    #21 Mark: You don’t sound heartless, and you’re exactly right.

  28. noninsider wrote:

    Auke. I have to say I agree on several of your points… There is one quartet (Legacy Five) I will point to that normally has sounded the same all the time like you said about the current quartets… With that said they have an upcoming project that I have heard and I will say it is a departure from their normal sound, it is mostly just piano, bass and some rhythm mixed in, the arrangements are incredible to say the least and it is nice to not hear any vocal stacking etc… This project will be released in September and I encourage everyone to give it a chance, you will not be let down…

  29. Tony Watson wrote:

    Tracy Stuffle’s bypass surgery has been delayed until tomorrow morning. They have also discovered a possible aneurysm on his heart and that he is diabetic. Tracy’s is and will continue to be one of the all-time “good guys” that truly “gets it”. He and Libbi are total class acts.

    #13 I ALWAYS mute the music on any website if the option is readily available. To me the one I like the least is Singing News’ website.

  30. Glenn wrote:

    Although I at one time attended a lot of SG concerts, I rarely do anymore. The Hoppers are probably the absolute worst of those who just sing the same old songs, time, after time, after time. Kind of like hearing the Dove Brothers sing “Didn’t it Rain”. Greater Vision, Gold City, etc. are not far behind. The only groups I would travel any distance to see are Signature Sound or the Gaithers. Even though they also are repititious, their talent seems to make it worthwhile to me. Also I don’t have to listen to preaching or their political views. Just great music.

  31. GospelLP wrote:

    Anyone who might be a Gordon Mote fan…his first lp is for sale on ebay. He is only 8 years old! Worth a look for the picture alone.

  32. GospelMusicFan wrote:

    Any offers on “add on” products here?
    I be interested in the 10 for $65 offers featuring southern gospel music.

  33. pk wrote:

    Excitment in SG music was when the Martins were making music and touring. It was a new sound, to me, and each song was unique. I really miss their touring and putting CD’s out.

  34. quartet-man wrote:

    #18, I’m glad you’re “Keeping the faith.”

  35. apathetic wrote:

    “Actually, if you were to take out the lyrics and play only the soundtrack, I’m afraid I couldn’t tell a Top 40 Country song from a Top 80 Southern Gospel song” Pleeeeeaase! It’s more like you can’t tell a Top 80 Southern Gospel song from a country song from the 80’s. If it’s a quartet subtract another decade.

    Music and production quality is not even close.

  36. Kitten wrote:

    It has been intersting to read the recent threads here on averyfineline about one of my favorite groups, Ernie Haase & Signature Sound. I know not everybody on here likes them, but it goes without saying that they are very successful in SG music. Combine that with the oft repeated maxim that this is a dying genre of music, or that many SG groups/concerts are boring, and maybe, whether they like EHSS or not, a lot of SG groups could learn a lot from their success.

    There is no question that part of their popularity is Ernie’s connection to the CATs. The fact that Bill Gaither took them under his wing helped a lot too. But then, not every group that graces Bill Gaither’s stage turns into a big success story.

    I think a lot of the reason for the success of EHSS is the fact that they are driven, dedicated, and disciplined. When groups come onto stages with an unpolished, “aw shucks” attitude and sing the same song set they sang last year … or five years ago … it is no wonder that people don’t turn out. Or, when they intersperse a few songs with a lot of talking, who wants to drive several hours and take a day off from work for that?

    It is a well known fact that the members of EHSS regularly engage in exercise to keep themselves physically fit. They are also disciplined with their eating habits. All Mark Lowry joking aside, this is an industry that can easily lead to laziness, overeating and obesity, with the long rides on buses, restaurant meals, late after-concert dinners & sleeping until noon on full stomachs, etc. A little more energy in their program — even if it isn’t the same style of energy that EHSS uses — would go a long way toward letting the audiences know it is really all about them, not the performers. But group members have to have the physical energy necessary if they are going to do this.

    Regardless of whether you like their choreography, appreciate their light show, agree with the comparisons to the Statesmen, or think Danny Funderburk is a better tenor or not, the fact is that EHSS puts a lot of time, practice, and energy into their program. Every concert I have attended by this group is a well organized and smooth running performance — even though it may run a total of nearly 3 hours from start to finish. Yet in spite of their professionalism on stage, the members still take the time and effort to interact with their fans, pose for pictures, sign autographs, or speak encouraging words. They are real, and the people who come to see them know it.

    In addition, Ernie has stated that they try to be home on Sundays whenever they can so each member can go to church with their family. Family life is important to them.

    I know most SG groups depend on Sunday concerts for their livlihood and cannot do the latter, and many have not been blessed with some of the opportunities that EHSS has had, but it isn’t as if this was all handed to them on a silver platter. They have worked hard to become what they are. If every SG group would give this kind of dedication to becoming the absolute best they can possibly be, regardless of their particular style or lineup, instead of being satisfied with just existing from church to church, concert to concert, and CD sale to CD sale, maybe the SG industry would begin to thrive a little more. When I go to EHSS concerts I see plenty of older people, but I also see young people — children — teenagers — even young people with tatoos and piercings. It’s not that their music is that much different from mainstream SG music, it’s the way they package it.

    SG music does not need to die. If it does, it will probably die from within, not without, and that is a sad commentary.

  37. lovelife wrote:

    #21. I don’t think that’s what I said. I meant, in general. If you can’t, don’t, or won’t agree that the devil is working hard to stop the spreading of the gospel, you’ve got a real problem. Not just with our favorite SG artists, but, right in our own homes. just sayin

  38. Billy Joel wrote:

    I am trying.

  39. The Art Coach wrote:

    Well said, start to finish.

  40. GSR wrote:

    I’m interested in knowing what the expectations are when you go hear a SG group perform. #20 says they blast the tracks, #25 says they are too polished, too loud, too stacked, and #30 says he doesn’t want to listen to preaching or political views. Unless the group travels with a live band you will almost always get the stacks, and the music needs to be loud enough to fit the venue and hopefully would have put in the time to rehearse the music and if they don’t come in with a message then they shouldn’t be in front of you in the first place. And I know you can’t please everybody every time, but it seems to me that the message is getting lost in the music. Are the few right or am I missing something?

  41. Jake wrote:

    #40 — Obviously you can never please everyone. But I think that most people who pay anywhere from 15-30 dollars a ticket want to hear good singing — not a lot of talking with a few songs sprinkled in. Sometimes it takes a few words (emphasis on few) to set up a song and the message in it, but ultimately, the message should be in the music. If the music doesn’t have the message someone is trying to convey, they either need to find different songs or find a different ministry outlet.

    That isn’t saying there is anything wrong with an invitation or other wrap-up at the end of the program to tie it all together, but the idea is for the music to be the primary conveyor of the message. Good preaching draws its own crowd and has a good purpose, but just don’t charge for a ticket to a music concert only to hear a lot of preaching & little music.

    I am not #20, #25, or #30 but that is my two cents worth.

  42. Glenn wrote:

    #40 “the message is getting lost in the music”? That is ridiculous. Save your money and go to church. #41 I like your two cents.

  43. Tjeerd wrote:

    No. 25 Auke.

    I agree with the over polished stacked sound. Nothing like a old live tape like, Kingsmen Live in Mississippi. Big Jim, and Foxy both a little off key but unrehearsed making everything….real..authentic…and genuine. I saw that group sing 3X`s live, even in the post Hamil era they kicked up a storm and gave you a night to remember.

  44. Tjeerd wrote:

    I believe the Dixie Echoes refuse to stack their voices at concerts.

  45. Dixie D wrote:

    It is revolting to see how obese some of the sg singers are. Especially the younger ones. Also, I have cringed when Tracy Stuffle talks about how when he tries to exercise he starts to smell like bacon and then he gets hungry. I have heard him say this more than once.

  46. Irishlad wrote:

    Without getting into a medical debate TS’s diabetes is most likely type 2 which is directly attributed to poor diet and obesity rather than the hereditary type 1 which has to be insulin controlled.If he decides to change his eating habits ,exercise and thus lose weight he may not even have to take any medicine at all.I’m quite sure his Dr will have a quiet word to him about all that and we all can enjoy many more years of his great bass singing.

  47. Irishlad wrote:

    A non-sg reflection…Northern Irish men Rory McIIroy,Graeme McDowell(US open winner) and Darren Clarke all competing in the US PGA, not bad for a “wee” country you could fit inside Texas :)

  48. Irishlad wrote:

    A non-sg reflection…Northern Irish men Rory McIIroy,Graeme McDowell(US open winner) and Darren Clarke all competing in the US PGA, not bad for a “wee” country you could fit inside Texas :)

  49. Irishlad wrote:

    For all you bass lovers if you like a quality bass in the style of Chris West or Aaron McCune listen to Brandon Barry one time Old Paths now The Stamps on myspace music. There are 5 good quality songs featured, and my my what a smokey texture to his voice you’d swear the cat was on 60 a day :)

  50. DMP wrote:

    Even while discussing the weight of SG singers may be fun packed, I’m liking the new Gaither album… Anyone else? I think Hampton steals the show with He is Here…

  51. noninsider wrote:

    50. I have the album and while I enjoy Wes on “He Is Here” I feel David on “You Are My All In All” is the highlight of the album… JMO…

  52. Hummingbird wrote:

    #50 I love the new album too!
    I think “He Is Here” is a wonderful feature piece for Wes Hampton….with a very powerful lyric.
    I really enjoyed “Ain’t Nobody” too; it was definitely a different sound, but a lot of fun to listen to and sing. :)

  53. Shorty Bradford wrote:

    I agree with both earlier comments about the GVB album- it is exceptional. HAmpton, Phelps and Lowry all have some incredible songs on the CD. I have been one who wondered if Michael English could be a shadow of his former greatness. IMHO his performance on the album is amazing. It is impossible to compare him to any other lead singer in Southern Gospel. Like Jake Hess in the 50’s and 60’s, he is the one other lead singers try to copy. His performance on Please Forgive Me is one of the highlights of the album. Michael owns the song. You feel his shame in the verses and you feel his plea for God’s forgiveness and grace in the chorus. When the Vocal Band dramatically begins the last chorus, it feels as if the light of God’s grace is breaking through. It is stunning performance.
    Michael seems to have different voices that allows him to stylistically do things others can’t do. He sings power ballads, he scats, he sings gritty gospel, he sings jazz and he sings a Goodman classic. I think I have a good ear and quite frankly was not sure if he could ever be what he was as a singer. I was thrilled as a fan that he delivered one of the finest projects of his career.

  54. Shorty Bradford wrote:

    Hummingbird is right on with the critique of He is Here on the Gaither Vocal Band’s new project. Wes has become one of the best tenors I have ever heard. The song produces chills every time I listen to it.

  55. David Bruce Murray wrote:

    Different strokes and all, but “He Is Here” is my least favorite song on the CD. Of course, I usually gravitate to arrangements that have some oomph and don’t drag out for fifteen minutes.

  56. JR wrote:

    #50: I absolutely love the new album! This is the first GVB album since “Peace Of The Rock” that I like 90% of the songs. I think the best songs do showcase David Phelps. “Clean” is my favorite.

  57. greg wrote:

    #50 I’m very disappointed in the new GVB album. He is here is definitely the best cut on the album. Please forgive me represents the best and worst of the album. I will be honest I have no clue what English is trying to do vocally on this album. Please forgive me could have been a great track, I know Michael has had a tough road but I don’t need to hear him sobbing over every line. The production is odd the background vocals are muddled. When I hear the vocal band I expect clean vocals and good production. It seems to me when the change was made they downgraded the baritone and lead parts and that’s more pronounced here on this album. As a fan of the GVB it makes me sad to say all this. Wes Hampton is great on this album, he’s definitely growing as a vocalist and I’m glad about that.

  58. Glenn wrote:

    You can download the “Greatly Blessed” from the MP3 store for $7.99.

  59. Burt wrote:

    Was running the sound for a SG group more than once. When the vocals got loud, decided to bring all vocals down. Only to discover the vocals were all on the track. Bet it makes the real singers mad. They work years at their craft to make it sound great, then a group comes alon, sings in the studio, fixes all their pitches and phrasing, then gets on stage and pretends to sing, AND THE CROUD GOES WILD!!!!

    No wonder SG stinks today! OK well, 97% of it anyway.

  60. DMP wrote:

    I love David, but Wes does have the ability to deliver a lyric in a way Phelps can not. They make a great team…

  61. Auke wrote:

    #28 I will keep Legacy Five’s new release section under surveillance..thxs.
    I’ve been to a EH&SS concert 3 times…and went in there all sceptical..and came out reformed. They indeed have discipline,good songs,the right amount of showmanship, and a live band. I was quite impressed and i felt transported to the 50’s when the Statesmen created quite a buzz. But EH&SS is getting to gimmicky..and too retro. The MArtins were indeed exciting…i dunno who mentioned that earlier but he/she was right. Also Mullins & Co were exciting…the albums ‘Vocal Point’ and ‘All The Right Doors’ are superb..that was an exciting group…but they didn’t stick with it long enough to make a erasable mark.

    The new GVB record is awesome…i love it.
    My favorites r ‘He is Here’ (Wes) Muddy Water (Michael), ‘Clean’ (David) and ‘That Sounds Like Home to Me’ (Michael/Mark/David) is my #1 song of the album…

  62. Soli Deo Gloria wrote:

    Regarding the new GVB album, how can this line up–arguably the best assembly of talent into one group in the history of this genre–produce an album so average, so lackluster, so bland? This album should have been huge. Instead, it’s just ok. And that is simply unacceptable from this group in its current form.

    What a wasted opportunity. In a genre starved for uniqueness and creativity, the genre’s best hope for uniqueness and creativity just took the easy road to blahville. It’s equal parts cowardice and laziness.

    But I’ll bet you they sell a ton of them to women over 60…

  63. Joe wrote:

    Is “He is Here” the Kirk Talley song?

  64. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    I don’t think anyone mentioned this, but happy late anniversary to AVERYFINELINE… Six years is a nice accomplishment for any blog.

  65. Glenn wrote:

    Joe, it is indeed a Kirk Talley song.

  66. Auke wrote:

    #62 Please tell me what would you liked to hear…i’m not trying to be a smartass.
    But i am genuinely interested…so let’s hear what they (GVB) should have done to make a real ‘ huge’ record…apart from just being lazy cowards…of course.


  67. Shorty Bradford wrote:

    That was my thought, too. I have two very musical sons who are in their mid 20’s. They grew up as huge Cathedral’s fans. They play and sing and have accompanied some pretty big names in gospel music. They have also always loved GVB. Their take is that it is the most musically satisfying album the Vocal Band has put out since Testify. They love Guy. They love many of the great songs done during the Guy era. But they felt this was far and away the best album. THey felt there were no throwaway songs. Even the quieter songs like Phelps singing Clean or Lowry singing Thank You were quality songs that they would want to listen to again and again. I know everyone has a right to their opinion. Music is a subjective subject. I just don’t see this as a ‘wasted opportunity’.

  68. Aaron Swain wrote:

    I’ll agree with #66. If you want to talk about lackluster GVB, try “Lovin’ Life.” Other than a couple songs I can remember off of that project, I was pretty disappointed. Now, that was a bland project.

  69. Soli Deo Gloria wrote:

    No. 66: This album just wasn’t innovative enough given the talent available. I simply expected better vocal arrangements. Even last year’s “Reunited” album showed flashes of brilliance, and that was with old songs slapped together (production-wise, anyway).

    Here, the GVB literally had an opportunity to redefine this genre, shattering traditional harmony patterns, arrangements, etc., and making it musically legitimate. It could have been “A Cappella” on steroids, i.e., incredible individual and collaborative vocal offerings only set to music.

    And in the end, it is what it is: good and not great, ordinary and not ground-breaking, better than “Lovin Life” but this line up farting would have accomplished that. And therein lies my disappointment.

  70. Auke wrote:

    Shorty i do agree…this project has the same artistic degree as ‘Testify’ and also ‘Peace of The Rock’…Aaron mentioned the Lovin’ Life project as the one that came closest to the description ‘lackluster’..and i agree. The only song from that album that i really like to hear is..’There’s Always a Place at The Table’. And to be honest i like the live version from the ‘Better Day’ DVD best.
    I loved Guy and Marsh they were awesome…but that configuration lacked excitement….the singing became too cleancut…i dunno…they had fantastic voices…Marsh is one of my favorite baritones hands down. When the group was Guy,David,Marsh and Bill they had a different groove. When Wes came it somehow didn’t work…the Give it Away album was okay…but didn’t live up to my expectations either. This new album does…although i don’t think it is the best they could have done. And my only peeve is that the other vocals are taking a backseat on some of the tunes…and are downgraded to BGV’s..but i can live with that…and in a live setting that can be fixed. I saw a clip of the guys doing ‘You are My All in All’ and they sound more like a quintet there…so no need to worry…

  71. eric wrote:

    I think “Loving God, Loving Each Other” is the greatest album ever by the Vocal Band in terms of song selection alone. That album produced a ton of memorable “hits”.

    The one gripe I do have with the new lineup is the abundance of “over-singing”. English and Phelps are my favorite singers but, they are almost caricatures of their former greatness. They’ve even got little Wes performing a little to ambitiously.

    With all that said…I’m still trusting Gaither’s judgement.

  72. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    On Saturday at NQC during the 100 year celebration of Southern Gospel there will be a couple of interesting reunions. One will be what many people feel is the best lineup Gold City has ever put on stage, that is Brian Free, Tim Riley, Ivan Parker, Mike Lefevre and Garry Jones. Another intriguing lineup that day will be the Singing Americans with Michael English, Ed Hill, Rick Strickland, and Dewayne Burke. I have to say that this may be the highlight of the week…

  73. quartet-man wrote:

    I hope they record both reunion groups as I want to hear both badly. :) Dwayne wasn’t a low down bass so I didn’t appreciate him like some, but he had a good voice and with the high voices at the time, he didn’t need to be a super low down bass. I do wish he have had low C’s at least. :)

  74. quartet-man wrote:

    “he’d have had.”

  75. Videoguy wrote:

    Will Martin Gureasko be playing for the Singing Americans? That would truly complete the lineup.

  76. Aaron Swain wrote:

    #72: A Singing Americans reunion? Sweet.
    Dwayne Burke wasn’t the lowest bass, but smooth. It’ll be good to hear him again.

  77. Auke wrote:

    #69 ok i hear you..but unlike you and me…there were a lot of people who didn’t like the A Cappella album that much…it was way to exotic for them….i loved it and still do.

  78. JR wrote:

    #68: You thought GVB’s version of I’m Forgiven was lackluster? They did a much superior job then the Imperials on that song. I liked 8 or 9 songs from “lovin’ Life.” I thought either “Lovin’ God and Lovin’ Each Other” or “I Do Believe” had the least amount of interesting songs. Soli Deo Gloria, you remind of my Dad. Nothing is good enough for you. Too much compression not enough treble, too many instruments, not enough oboe solos!

  79. crazyjoe wrote:

    the Rambos, Hinsons, Downings, LeFevres, Lewis/Easters, Blackwood Bros, and Speers will also be there at the 100 years of SOGO. This is definetly CAN”T MISS!!!

  80. Brett wrote:

    The worst song on the new GVB is Better Days and I am sick to death of that song!

  81. Aaron Swain wrote:

    #78: “I’m Forgiven” was actually one of the tracks from that project I enjoyed.

    I never have cared for “Lovin’ God, Lovin’ Each Other” as a whole, but I did enjoy “I Do Believe.” The former was from the era when Penrod first joined where the GVB was on a kick of doing what seemed like nothing but old spirituals and gospel classics, and it pretty much all ran together. It was only when David Phelps joined the group that the Penrod era really took off.

    However, I was impressed by Penrod’s range on a few features from that time, like “Count On Me,” “The Old Rugged Cross Made The Difference,” etc.

  82. quartet-man wrote:

    #80, there there, this is all temporary “there’s gonna be a better day.” ;)

  83. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    It is funny how peoples tasted in music is so different. I would bet no one on here can unanimously agree on a top ten list of songs or groups from SG… But that is the beauty of it, there is room for all types within Southern Gospel.

  84. quartet-man wrote:

    Generally I don’t care much for all acappella albums although Acapella did some good ones and the Nylons had one. As far as the GVB one, it wasn’t my favorite lineup and although I respected the arrangements and abilities in doing them, didn’t care for it a whole lot and especially not over a long long period of time.

    Loving God Loving Each Other had some good songs as did Back Home In Indiana (which had live versions from that CD and Southern Classics 2 among other things.) I never cared much for the title song and they have used it far too much since then. However classics from these CDs like The Old Rugged Cross Made the Difference, I Believe In A Hill Called Mount Calvary, Count on Me, I’ll Worship Only at the Feet of Jesus are the type that are one of my favorites by them. Songs that Answer Questions is really good.

    I did like some songs off of others like A Few Good Men (title song, Stand Tall, Beyond the Open Door, These Are They, There is a Mountain, . Sacrifice of Praise and New Wine were pretty good and Keep Believing not bad), A New Point of View has several good songs, Wings has some (Daystar, What Once Was a River, You Don’t Knock You Just Walk In off the top of my head.) In retrospect, the Testify CD was a really good one, however, I really missed Michael a lot so I didn’t appreciate it as much at the time.

    Lovin Life had some I liked and maybe more than I realized. That group had a good blend, but were not as much a power harmony wailing group which I probably prefer overall (EXCEPT I hate when groups don’t blend on unison parts. The GVB has always done great on those (such as on Alpha and Omega) even if they had power vocalists. When I Cry is a great song for one.

    The I Do Believe CD had a lot I liked too. This may have been the finest by that particular group of members.

    One X One had songs like Glorious Morning, Lamb of God, I Walked Today Where Jesus Walks and Look Up that I really liked. The Things that Last Forever was still a good song too.

    Well, that is it for now. I might elaborate more later. :D

  85. NG wrote:

    Re NQC 100-year SGM celebration: Unfortunately it appears they are allowing only 90 minutes total for a number of acts. With introductions and other talk it won’t leave much time for each group to perform. You would think that they could devote at least 3 hours to an event marking 100 years of SGM.

  86. wanderer wrote:

    It is funny how people’s tastes differ. As far as GVB, the only album by them I really disliked was One X 1. For some reason, I can not get into that album. Southern Classics would be next on my list of dislikes by them. But I did like Vol 2 of Southern Classics.

  87. Scott wrote:

    #83 - I too find it interesting how people view music differently. I thought GVB’s Give It Away project was one of the best they had done in a long time. On the other hand, the new Greatly Blessed project just doesn’t seem to produce what these fantastic vioices should be able to produce.

    I think Eric (#71)got it exactly right, there is far too little harmonizing and way too much oversinging the individual parts. Not a bad effort, but oh, what could have been. I think the harmony was better with Guy in the group (JMHO).

    On a different note, I was at a concert Saturday night. On the program were Legacy Five, The Greenes, The Crist Family and a local group - The Master’s Men. Tony only made it through 3 songs and had to leave the stage. Taranda remained for one additional song. Tony was take to a local hospital where my wife works. As I understand it he was still there on Monday morning and may still be there. I don’t know anything else (and nothing has been added to their website) but would ask all to keep him in your prayers.

    P.S. The new Legacy Five tenor is fantastic.

  88. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    87. I agree about the Give It Away project, I don’t think that album gets enough credit in the history of GVB albums.

    About Gus Gaches, (L5’s tenor) he really helps give L5 another element that they have not had in years past. He can carry a ballad like few tenors can.
    Doug Harrison (averyfineline) had this to say about him a few years ago when he saw Gus with the Lefevre Quartet at NQC. “Of particular note is the tenor (Gus Gaches), who in a rare reversal of conventional tenor wisdom, actually sounds better solo than he does in the mix. Which is only to say, he has a very pleasant and rich tone, mellifluous and open, one that stays full and clear without being shrill in higher registers.”

    I think people will really start noticing Gus even more when NQC rolls around…

  89. matt wrote:

    The Singing Americans with English/Strickland/Hill and Burke had some awesome songs…..that live album they did was fantastic. I forget the title of it. But with spectacular voices, I didn’t even miss the low bass. The very fact that Burke wasn’t low made them stand out. He did have a beautiful voice. Don’t get me wrong, and with the high top 3 voices, it made for some awesome music. Ed Hill was such a classy MC and solid baritone.

  90. quartet-man wrote:

    #86 as a complete album, I agree on One X 1. I like the songs I listed, but other ones just don’t do it for me so much. Oh, I forgot about Forever, that was a pretty good tune.

  91. quartet-man wrote:

    #87 I agree about Gus. He has to be one of the best tenors out there these days. Maybe not quite as high as some, but great sound and voice that is consistent from low to high. He doesn’t thin out on the high notes like so many SG tenors do and he has a pleasing voice while getting higher than some of the tenors L5 has had. They struck the goldmine with him. He makes a huge difference in their sound.
    While we are on the subject, Parton is an asset to the group too. I miss Roger and he is irreplaceable, but Parton is an excellent musician whose style fits the group very well. He is also on a shoot list of those who would’ve fit in the group and possibly the frontrunner.

  92. quartet-man wrote:

    arggh ’short list” my wireless keyboard gets wacky sometimes.

  93. DMP wrote:

    I also recently saw The Crist Family. They were good, but I just couldn’t help but wonder if all of that sound was really coming from the stage. None of the soloists were spectacular, yet their overall sound was incredible. It just left me scratching my head. As far as Gaither albums, I would agree that I Do Believe is probably their finest work. I still love the group, but as I have said before, and read others post, they seem to be caricatures of their former selves, almost as if Phelps must try to sing and act like phelps. Even Lowry isn’t quite as funny as he used to be. It’s almost as if they have given up on breaking new ground, and are endlessly in search of a way to recapture the old glory years. But, they are still incredible in the process.

  94. quartet-man wrote:

    Although I preferred Ed Enoch as baritone and Donnie Sumner as lead (or vice versa), Ed Hill blends great no matter what group of singers he is in. His work with the Singing Americans is excellent and he fit in beautifully. Although they didn’t go as high as the Prophets did, Ed still had the range to go along with Michael and Rick.

    Funderburk was my favorite tenor of that group, but Strickland did a good job and really was tenor when they had more hits at the end before English left.

    Like I said above Dwayne wasn’t low enough for my tastes, but had a nice voice and did make them sound more modern and different at the time.

  95. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    91. To reiterate my point I saw L5 recently, and I can say that there are not many tenors out there that can tote the mail musically like Gus Gaches. As far as his range he has told me he can go up to a high Eb above High C (High C is where stops in full voice to save his chords), anywhere beyond that he does not like the tone, I respect that about a singer that knows his limits and stays in them. I agree that L5 got a goldmine with Gus, he not only can sing with the best of them but he also writes songs, has his own studio and is a superb engineer. Scott Fowler is a shrewd businessman for sure, even when Roger owned part interest, Scott ran the business side of things.

    I totally agree about Tim Parton, he fits this group to a T. No one could EVER replace Roger but Tim has done a superb job fitting in and making his own mark. I hope to see him win some awards soon, he is long overdue going back to his Gold City days…

    And Q Man ditch the wireless keyboard. :)

  96. Andrew S. wrote:

    #93- The Crist Family uses stacks. The main quirk about the group is that they’re much better as a group and not so individually. In my opinion, Jackie Crist has the best voice in the group.

  97. quartet-man wrote:

    #95 Other than an old Win98SE desktop, I currently have a netbook which is what I use right now. I hate laptop / netbook keyboards so I often use the wireless. :P In this case, the keyboard itself on the netbook is good quality, but is still a laptop type of keyboard. Yeah, I guess I could get another USB one for it. :P

    I would say that a high C is very sufficient for Legacy Five as far as high notes. That should cover what they do or want to do just fine.

  98. wanderer wrote:

    #94 Hey Quartetman. I just transferred Live in Nashville by the Stamps to C-D and have been listening to it in my car. I agree with you. Ed Enoch and Donnie Sumner sounded so good together. They’re voices really complimented each other. Will be transferring The Touch of His Hand by the Stamps to C-D in the next few days. I have owned this album for several years, but have never listened to it. Looking forward to hearing more of that configuration.

  99. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    96. Jackie does have a very good voice, I have their new project and Breana gets her first feature on the title track “My Oasis” her voice also has a nice quality to it. I might be going to see them in a couple of weeks so I will see about the stacking..

  100. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    Q-Man I feel ya, I am using a laptop and it took some getting used to after I had a desktop for years… This is a very nice laptop though with a spacious keyboard. You can get a decent corded (USB) keyboard for cheap at walmart… :) But I am sure you know that.

    And yes that range is sufficient for a group that sings the style that L5 sings. Scott Fowlers top end range is about an A or maybe a Bb on a good day, so really they don’t need a Jeremy Peace, Dan Keeton etc… Gus is perfect for their style.

  101. quartet-man wrote:

    #98 and add Bill Baize and Richard Sterban and it was a killer quartet. Four quality voices that could take leads and solos, but also sing harmony. Although I love the Oaks (and love stuff they were doing back then even before Richard joined), the Oaks of that same time period had one or two weaker voices whereas that version of the Stamps didn’t. I do like how Richard got even lower notes later (he probably stopped at about a C or B back then). The funny thing is, the Oaks might have done more and more well as far as good material performed with gusto.

  102. Kyle wrote:

    My all-time favorite GVB album is “Still The Greatest Story.” Phelps’ first album, Guy really hitting his stride vocally, and only one “standard” made this an album I play more than just at Christmas. “Hand Of Sweet Release” has got to be my favorite cut by the Penrod/Phelps/Lowry lineup.

  103. quartet-man wrote:

    #102 Kyle, as an album, I’m not into that one BUT Hand of Sweet Release is a killer song and performance. The ranges too are incredible with Lowry hitting a G over middle C, Guy a high C and Phelps an E above on “ev” I also really like Reaching. Of course Mary Did You Know is good and New Star Shining is pretty. I like the Oaks version of Little One better and a choral arrangement (upbeat) of Go Tell, Everyone better. Mary Was the First One To Carry the Gospel is ok i guess.

  104. quartet-man wrote:

    98 Wanderer, Do you also have Top of the Stamps, Sweet Song of Salvation, and Something Special? There are good songs on each of the albums with the four members I mentioned, but in particular some of my favorites are on Sweet Song of Salvation.

  105. quartet-man wrote:

    #98, I forgot to say though, my favorite version of the song “I Can Feel the Touch of His Hand” though is on the Live at Murray State which has Enoch on lead and Hill on baritone. While we are at it, my favorite version of the Lighthouse (although in truncated form) is on the Elvis On Tour movie.

  106. quartet-man wrote:

    #100 or Newegg. It just tethers me to the netbook more, but I might do it. As far as ranges, I don’t know how high Scott Howard can get either. He seems more a “real” baritone. I guess it depends on the inversion of the chords, but depending on Howard’s range, they could have Howard on an Eb, Fowler on an Ab and Gus on a C, or Howard on an F, Scott and A and Gus a C. :)

  107. Shorty Bradford wrote:

    I wonder if the GVB would ever do a piano only album like Lordsong did a few years ago with Stan Whitmire? I bet it would be amazing.

  108. Charlie wrote:

    Maybe I missed it but I dont recall anyone mentioning the GVB’s God is Good album.I think that album had to be one of their greatest with all four vocalists doing superb jobs even Bill on his few random verses and parts.This album also contained The Star Spangled Banner(simply amazing) and what i consider the GVB’s best song ever…Let Freedom Ring,i still get chills from that song 12 years later.The album also had God is Good,He came down to my level,Mercy,Jesse Taylor,and Child you’re Forgiven.To be honest there really wasnt a throw away song on it and after all these years I can put it on and listen all the way thru and enjoy like it was brand new.

  109. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    Kyle I have to say that I agree, I still think the title track of that CD is underrated… It happens to be one of my favorite modern day Christmas songs. “Hand Of Sweet Release” is an incredible song lyrically and the vocals are pretty breathtaking as well…

  110. Mark wrote:

    Kyle-completely agree about the Greatest Story album. Love Hand of Sweet Release (however to my knowledge They never performed it live, I guess it was one of those songs that can be done in the studio but can’t be recreated in a concert setting). My the favorite song on that album is Go Tell, such a fun groove.

  111. Jeremy Peace wrote:

    Gus = Best tenor in the business (IMO)

  112. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    106. Newegg works or zip zoom fly :) And Howard would be considered a “true” baritone but so is Mark Trammel IMO and he has a much broader range, Howard while great in the natural baritone range gets thin when he tries to slide up the scale to much, so it limits (some) what the group can do on higher songs… But they still do fine.

    If you want a unique project featuring some incredible arrangements and some very nice intricate harmonies check out L5’s upcoming project, it has a nice stripped down sound that compliments L5’s blend very well. It will be available soon…

  113. noninsider wrote:

    Jeremy that says a lot coming from a tenor of your caliber… I also think Gus is a pretty incredible tenor singer, and he is just getting recognized, his move to L5 was a wise move IMO.

  114. quartet-man wrote:

    #108 I never got to that one yet. Let Freedom Ring is definitely one of their all time best. There are other good ones too, but I do think there is some filler as well. If memory serves, I still overall think that I Do Believe is a better album as a whole even if Let Freedom Ring might beat every or nearly every song on I Do Believe.

  115. Nate Stainbrook wrote:

    About I Do Believe I still believe David Phelps performance on “More Than Ever” is one of his all time best, but that is just my opinion.

  116. quartet-man wrote:

    #112 Nate, I agree about Howard’s voice, that is why I didn’t really know just how quite high he could get. I also got the idea that Mark Lanier was another who had limited high notes. As far as Trammell, he is awesome. Not only can he hit low E’s nice and full on Show Me The Cross, but high B’s on Loving the Lamb.

    Even with the “true” SG baritones, I don’t think they have the low notes and tones that country baritones have. At least not as I have observed and recall. Some are close though and Trammell is one of those. He had high notes even back in the Cathedral’s days (hitting A’s at least), but they became fuller and the bottom end as well after that. He improved during the Cathedrals days and Greater Vision days, but it started really progressing (or being demonstrated) I think more during the Gold City days and keeps improving.

  117. quartet-man wrote:

    Sorry, I meant to type (and thought I did) high Bb’s, but it didn’t take.

  118. wanderer wrote:

    #105 Quartetman. I don’t have Top of the Stamps ( a couple tracks from it that were on Master’s of Gospel C-D) or Something Special. Can’t remember about Sweet Song. Something tells me I do. I have Live at Murray State and Leaning on the Arms of Jesus. I’ve got around a thousand L-P’s, 350 C-D’s and a couple hundred cassettes so the memory starts to get foggy after awhile. I like the live version of Touch as well from Murrary State. Will be transferring the studio version in the next couple of days.

  119. DMP wrote:

    I think there is a good reason Hand of Sweet Release was never done live. Have you ever tried to break down the parts? I have, and the more you listen to it, the more (especially at the climax) you realize the the song is stacked with Penrod at several parts. It is incredible harmony, but I’m not sure I hear Lowry in there… Listen to it, and let me know if you think I’m wrong…

  120. DMP wrote:

    Here it is. Startring at about 2:54, the Penrod stacks (I think) become a little more obvious…

  121. Kyle wrote:

    Throughout that album, I’m pretty sure that Mike Allen is singing bass WAY more than Bill (including “Hand of Sweet Release”), and Penrod was notorious for stacking harmonies (”Sweeter As The Days Go By,” with maybe Jonathan Pierce’s solo lines at the end, sound like it is the Guy Penrod Quartet). If you don’t believe me, listen to some of the performance tracks from that era with just the background vocals. He’s all over the place.

  122. KC wrote:

    #107 - What Lordsong CD is that? I’d love to hear it.

  123. Shorty Bradford wrote:

    The LordSong project is called ‘Classics’.
    It is spectacular. I did not see it on Itunes so it might just be on the table when LordSong or the Sisters sing. The voices and Stan Whitmire are simply amazing.

    Here is a clip of them doing a medley that is on the album.

  124. eric wrote:

    Speaking of L5…Scott Fowler has a weird voice.

  125. 4Given wrote:

    124. Fowler has a different or unique voice than other lead singers in this genre but I don’t think that makes it weird by any means. I think his voice has matured quite a bit since his Cats/early L5 days. But to each his own…

  126. quartet-man wrote:

    #119 DMP, I took a quick listen to the section you mentioned (which I had mentioned above.) I am on a netbook with internal speakers, but it sure sounds like Guy on the baritone part on that section. At the time I guess I was too busy singing the high C with Guy and admiring it and the E Phelps hit to notice. Besides, one would presume that the baritone of the group and obvious still a member at the time (not something where a different group is shown on the cover or a new person or old person shown as with the group when they weren’t).

    I admit, I am not fond at all about this practice (and I had found out since that it has been done.) I think that the group as is is who should sing it and not have someone else cover for them. Lowry has the range to have hit the G and given time and a as Mark said Guy called it a “Gaither Vocal Band for Dummies” CD to learn the part, could’ve learned the part himself. That said, it still is a killer performance and one of if not THE best Christmas song and performance by them.

  127. quartet-man wrote:

    #124 Although I still might prefer him as a baritone, Scott has improved dramatically and even in the Cats days had the type of voice that made it possible to sing Champion of Love when they had had to retire it as far as I know since Wolfe left.

  128. Andrew S. wrote:

    123 (Shorty Bradford)- Didn’t they first record that with the original lineup of Kim,Michael,& Kelli Shaw? I seem to remember them having a classics (piano-only) album with the original lineup.

    Random Question: Does anyone know of any developments in Joseph Smith’s case with the police??

  129. Irishlad wrote:

    Is “Top of The Stamps” the album they are sitting on the grass with their legs cossed with Sterban? If it is i owned it in the 70’s and sadly have long lost it :(

  130. Auke wrote:

    #121 pretty sure that Mike Allen is singing…do you have any evidence to back that up? I’m not bashing you…just wanted to know if you had any information i don’t have (and i hate when i’m left in the dark).
    I still say that of all the Xmas albums i have that one is my favorite, although it is obviously stacked to the max .

  131. NG wrote:

    #129 Irishlad: Yes Top of the Stamps is the one with the group sitting on the grass. It’s the album with a bunch of older songs made famous by other groups — Old Country Church, Jesus is Coming Soon, Faith Unlock the Door, etc.

  132. quartet-man wrote:

    #129, We knew you had long lost it, but what does that have to do with the album? ;)

  133. LS wrote:

    Does Lordsong have a current website? All I could find was a Facebook page that didn’t actually give any contact or product information. Are they still singing, or have Sisters taken over?

  134. Glenn wrote:

    Who is that annoying guy now that you can’t get rid of when you log on to Think I will go elsewhere for the news.

  135. jandn73 wrote:

    I ran across this on YouTube. Very entertaining on many different levels and Ishee is a hoot.

  136. Irishlad wrote:

    :) :) :) Qman..very witty. Thanks NG.

  137. Kyle wrote:

    Auke, check this post here….

  138. jandn73 wrote:

    Here’s the YouTube link I left off of post #135:

  139. Sam wrote:

    #134… If it is the same one I got irritated with, I think it is Deon Unthank the owner. I stoped visiting the site due to those. Long-time Avery readers will recall the infamous “no love lost” relationship b/t Dr. D and the Unthanks :P

  140. Glenn wrote:

    I think I will “Unthank” them.

  141. Bob wrote:

    Listening to the new GVB album. The song “Greatly Blessed, Highly Favored” is Larry Gatlin’s “All The Gold in California” with different words. Did anyone else notice this?

    I bought the album on iTunes and don’t have the liner notes. Curious who is given the writing credit on that song…

  142. quartet-man wrote:

    # 141 Yes, mans it is intentional. As I recall, Larry Gatlin and Bill Gaither are listed as the writers. Obviously, Larry wrote the original and this has some differences. I am not sure if Larry was involved in any of the rewriting or just Bill.

  143. quartet-man wrote:

    #141 Sorry Bob, it looks like my keyboard struck again.

  144. observor wrote:

    I am so tired of turning on the radio and hear Rascal Flats wanna be southern gospel groups. What is up with this…. Enough already!

  145. justafan wrote:

    LS, Lordsong is no longer in existence. Michael no longer sings with the Ruppe sister. Instead they sing together as a group called Sisters. It’s disappointing. Michael’s voice gave their sound needed and great contrast. Lordsong is one of my favorites.

  146. Odeliya wrote:

    Jandn @ 138, thank you darling! thats a lifesaver- i was looking for a song- i am staging/teaching dance at my church- was going crazy not finding anything to be fast enough, not overplayed and yet interesting. I will use Your First Day in Heaven by N’ harmony version ( after i fig. out what CD it is on :)

  147. Soli Deo Gloria wrote:

    No. 144: what in the world are you talking about? According to southern gospel radio it’s still 1976.

  148. observor wrote:

    No. 144. We must be listening to different stations. Which is a huge part of the problem - you got all these different stations playing their own version of Souther Gospel.

  149. observor wrote:

    There is just so many of these groups recently doing the rascal flats immitations - get some originality PLEASE!!!!

  150. Soli Deo Gloria wrote:

    No. 149’s definition of originality:

    1. Be an all-male quartet;
    2. Buy matching suits and ties;
    3. Do only “original” songs, i.e., songs every other quartet also does;
    4. Adopt fake, TV evangelist-style southern accents;
    5. Rail against stacked vocals every time you get a chance;
    6. Decry any group that breaks this “originality” mold; and finally…
    7. Leave any accurate Gospel presentation past “Aww aren’t ya thankful for the bluhuhuhuhud of of Jayh-sus tuh-naght!” on your bus.

    Did I miss any?

  151. LS wrote:

    #145…Thanks for the information. I was afraid of that, but hoping I was wrong. Now Michael needs to do a solo CD–I’d buy it in a heartbeat!

  152. me wrote:

    A little treat for the vultures.

  153. Wade wrote:

    Here’s one from the same page… the rock star one had over 7000 hits.

  154. Mike McIlwain wrote:

    I appreciate the efforts of the people shown in the posts that are linked in #152 and #153. However, a worship service is not the place for it. We must strive for excellence. Maybe a 5th Sunday singing would be okay, and even then I would not put them on YouTube.

    I appreciate the willingness to share, but badly out of tune singing will not inspire others to hear the message. On the other hand, I don’t believe in critiquing every slightly out of tune note when someone is doing a fairly good job. I don’t have a problem with critiquing a professional who is making his living from music. The professional musician should desire excellence and should always be perfecting his craft.

  155. s.smith wrote:

    #150’s idea of originality: trash anything and everything associated with SG music. Really, I am so over your negativity. Why do you even bother listening to a genre that you have so much contempt for? While much of what you say may be true, your endless carping is getting really, really old and stale.

  156. Andrew S. wrote:

    S.Smith- You’re right on!

    Here’s a request for the Janet Paschal listeners. Back on the Jim crusades, she sang with another woman (singing harmony always) named Mary Lynn Larke. She appears on Janet’s latest release, “Treasure”, singing the song, “I Am”. Does anyone know where she went or if she’s still involved in the music field? I understand that she wasn’t an artist in the SG genre, but she is closely associated with an artist who very much is and has been for many years. Thanks!!

  157. Andrew S. wrote:

    *Sorry, Janet didn’t sing harmony. Mary Lynn did. My bad.

  158. DMP wrote:

    Oooooh good. It’s turning ugly.

  159. Andrew S. wrote:

    #158 (DMP)- How?

  160. DMP wrote:

    Wade, that link was painful
    Andrew, I was refering to #155.

  161. Andrew S. wrote:

    Ok.. I see!

  162. Auke wrote:

    No worries i won’t plug my petition again….anyway #155 s.smith i so agree with you….

    I am looking forward to Gold City’s new album…Michael English produces it.

  163. observor wrote:

    If you had any idea of how wrong you are about what my definitions of originality are you would be embarrassed…

  164. Aaron Swain wrote:

    This just in: Gold City looking for a piano player.

  165. Rich McGee wrote:

    I have a question. Mylon Leferve had a rendition of “I believe in a hill called Mt. Calvary”. I see it on a u-tube. There was an accompanyment track to this song. I at one time had it. There was a very long “string” intro to this version. I have tried all over to aquire this tape. I lost my first one in a fire. If you watch the Laferve u-tube, he starts out with his testimony, then you can hear that long intro. It is also a different version than the Gaithers have out. Can anyone tell me where I can purchase this back-up music? Please use my e-mail addrerss. Thanks so much. Rich

  166. Bryce wrote:

    Kind of an old topic to be resurrecting to ask a question. In lieu of an e-mail, Rich, the soundtrack is in this collection:

    Alleluia! The Praise Continues

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