On less euphemism from the Rabbit
Well, it’s refreshing to see some heavily qualified frankness on the part of these individuals. “I’m only going to throw this much mud, in the interest of (partial) full disclosure and (selected self-serving) Biblical principals, of course.” You’re right, it’s better than the usual smoke blowing but only mildly so. I’ve been a SG fan for over thirty years and have worked in religious radio and the record/publishing/promotion end of things. I’m glad there’s a bit more openness today compared to ten or twenty (or more) years ago. But, you know, maybe what we need is to just let it all hang out. Let’s not kid ourselves. As much or more crap goes on in SG or CCM as in any genre, and to presume or pretend otherwise is blind-eyed and fool-hearted. Some of it’s true and some may be as-yet unconfirmed innuendo. But that shouldn’t stop us. Christians excel at gossip. (I just recently learned it wasn’t one of the gifts of the Spirit). If TBN were smart (big “if”), they would develop the “Dirty Christian Laundry Reality” network. Air lousy songs and music videos, I mean the worst you can find (and sadly, you wouldn’t have to look too far in SG or CCM). Revisit great marriages in the business. Do a hidden camera show. You’d probably have to pixelate the naughty bits but the tease factor alone would boost ratings. “Great Hairpieces of Gospel Music.” Offer a “Buffoon of the Week” Award to the industry person who insiders determine is the biggest boob. Only problem is you’d have to decide whether the statuette should be modeled after James Dobson, Jerry Falwell or Pat “Killer” Robertson. Create a game show called “Who’s Screwing Who?” with categories like record deals (”Hey, we’re 10 grand over budget on this project but don’t worry, I’m gonna hang it on the new group we just signed. They’ll never recoup”), marriages, bus pranks (”No, I never told the Murray State football team they could use the bus for tailgating”) and radio charts (”Payola? Schmaola! You pay, we play!”). Parody “American Idol” and have the panel include Eddie Crook (just because I love his name), one of the Unthanks (being such amazing intellectual and business giants), Candy Christmas (just because I love her name) and a life-size cardboard cutout of Ernie Haase (just because… well, you can figure it out). Have a talking head segment on songwriting in which the worlds “heaven”, “mama” and “the cross” cannot be used. Do a “Rate the Album” piece with live call-in and online voting where the loser is drowned in strings by Lari Goss. “Just Like Bill” would take industry newbies and Gaitherize them. Imagine some wide-eyed punk CCM band from Louisiana schmaltzing their way through “Thanks for Sunshine”. Thanks for sunshine? Thanks for Demerol. Oh well, it’s just a fantasy. Seriously, thanks for your site. I discovered it a couple of months ago and your viewpoint and concise writing offer a necessary (and previously missing) counterpoint to so much of the crap that’s out there. Thanks again.

On the Dottie Rambo Doll Scourge
Ah..yeah..can you say Norma Desmond in the closing scenes of “Sunset Boulevard”? Her music has been some of the most inspired of the last forty years; a simple songwriter with a wonderful gift of expression and nuance. But really. Do we need this? Maybe Hasbro will come out with a Buck Rambo doll so you can buy both, a la the old Rock-em, Rock-em Robots. Now that might be worth it. Mmmmmm..no.

On Charting and EHSSQ
This comment is in response to Billboard Charting and EH comments regarding same. The BIG “E” ( EGO) should be singing a song right off of the Toby Keith CD. I wanna talk about me, I wanna talk about my, wanna talk about me, me, my, my, my. I guess that is why the group formerly just known as Signature Sound Qt., is now known as Ernie Haase and SSQ. To say that this man is a Narcissist is putting it mildly.

On the Innies
Okay, The Innuendos. Let’s see how that would work: Grammys, Emmys and… The Innies! In braver times, of course, there could also be The Outies, hosted by Kirk Talley and Marsha Stevens. But who would attend? I bet we’d see mostly Kirkskrew.

On plain speech in sg conflicts
I think more than the words that were said and accusations here [in the Rabbit Easter kerfuffle], the heart of each individual and their reputation should be considered. I have known Rabbit all of my life and I know he tries to do what’s right for everyone. His character speaks louder than this situation does to me, and I hope others will keep that in mind. At least he tells it like it is, no cover ups.

On pinky rings and other things
I agree that the country is leaning more towards the middle and there are some strides being made in the Conservative Christian Movement. As long as the majority of the groups in SG believe in pinky rings, shiny cheap suits, broke down buses, product tables that look like a going out of business K-mart, Bling-bling hanging from the neck of a guy making $300 a week and a total blindness to what middle conservative Churches are looking for, I do not believe WE (SG) will ever be in the mainstream of Christian music.. There are groups in SG who fit that bill and some are not very recognized but they are providing the music that the large conservative churches are looking to use in their ministries. There is a place for each group but mainstream will be for a select few who have the music, The Ministry and the consistency to make it to that level.

On LS and releasing Wandering Heart as a single
My perspective - then and now - is that it’s a hurting world and a hurting church. People need that song, and the message it contains. On that, I’d bet we agree. And so, from the unusual approach of ministry first, business second, I think it was a risk worth taking. I also love LordSong…the people and their artistry. I’m so glad that Mark Lowry has provided a platform that enhances him, and exposes them. Good people. And if you’ve gotten to watch the new Lowry video, I think you’ll see that Amber’s eyes are open while she sings for everything with the exception of a very few seconds, once!

On Living in public
It’s amazing that Christian Record companies have to be so secretrative about things. You really can’t blame the other groups for getting upset because they see their own record company catering to The Crabbs. I know the Crabbs are hot but look at the inter turmoil within the family and it comes from all the success of the group. I would dare to say that The Crabbs will eventually go Country. For one thing, the promoters can’t afford to pay them what they’re charging in the Southern Gospel Music realm. That’s why they’re going with these high name people like Parsley, Hinn, TBN and others. I’m so glad God isn’t a respecter of people. In His eyes we’re all the same. One big I’S OR LITTLE YOU’S. I believe in giving credit where credit is due. The Crabbs are a fresh young group that took Southern Gospel Music by storm and when that happens, people within the industry develop a resentfulness toward them. I do not resent what fame has brought to their family. No one knows, until you’ve walk where The Crabbs have been. When you see a family break a part, that’s the worse thing a family can go through. But sadly to say, this is what happens when we take our eyes off the Lord. And I’m not saying they (The Crabbs) have taken their eyes off the Lord but in most cases, when you go through stuff, it’s because someone’s focus has been distorted. They need our prayers. I need their prayers. We’re all susceptible to the same thing, if we’re not careful and on guard. Especially, if you’re in the public eye. You can sing all day long but if you lose your family in the process, is it worth what you’ve gone through. That’s a question I’m sure a lot of people in Southern Gospel Music have had to ask themselves. I use to sing professionally and my family still sings professionally and believe you me, there is a price to pay. We’ve come through it all but the price was way too high. Now the lessons we’ve learned along the way have been tremendous but there’s a sad irony to it all. The Price was Way too High!

On The SN and the sale
Hmmmmm? Been thinking…. Given the sale of this publication by Maurice Templeton, will he be charged a fee (equivalent to other advertisers) to advertise his “homestead”? Or was free advertising part of the sale? Just a thought passing through an ever active mind.

On finding AVFL
Just discovered you on the internet and was blown away. I canceled my subscription to the Singing News last year because I got sick of hearing the same stories every month with only the artists names being changed. It is unbelievable that there is somebody (in the spirit of JD Sumner, God rest his soul) who will tell it like it is! It’s like reading about Southern Gospel in the style of talk radio. I couldn’t stop reading. Thanks for creating what I’ve been wanting to enjoy for years. Blessings!

On nit picking
Let’s see, you criticize Griffith’s lyrics by saying he might have had an off day using words like “little bitty,” and then in the next paragraph begin a sentence with “Griffin’s not got enough..” Looks like you may have had an off day on that one!

On the Florida Boys
Well, well, Avery, I see it’s back to the old, worn out mantra of ‘let’s bash the Florida Boys’ that you and some of your readers love to engage in from time to time, for some strange, unknown reason. In your comments on the lineup of NQC Radio airplay recently, you stated something to the effect of, ‘Enough, already. We get the point.’ Well, apparently not. And then you post a letter from one of your readers praising Florida Boys’ bass Gene McDonald, but stating that, ‘He would probably get much more recognition if he were not singing with the Florida Boys and instead sang for a “top-tier group.”‘ Huh? Gene was voted the favorite bass a mere four years after beginning his full-time national singing career with the Florida Boys, and consistently rates in the top five. Excuse me, but the Florida Boys ARE a top-tier group, although they are not often treated like one in the southern gospel blogosphere nor on radio airplay lists. It has been my observation that older, traditional groups often get the shaft when it comes to radio airplay and recognition. After all, they have been around since 1948 and everybody knows them, so it is easy to write them off as ‘old hat.’ That is very unfortunate if one’s true intent is to get quality southern gospel music in front of the public. These guys have, without doubt, the best sound in southern gospel music today, bar none. Their stage programs are fresh, inspirational, classy, fast-moving, fun, and with a heavy emphasis on MUSIC rather than useless chit-chat. And since the Florida Boys in my opinion get the shaft so often on radio, I am GLAD they are getting due recognition on NQC Radio. It is long overdue. Now, with regard to your reader and his rather short-sighted comments about the Florida Boys not being top-tier, I would like to suggest that such comments obviously come from someone who is highly ignorant about the ins and outs of this industry. The reason why Gene McDonald stays with the Florida Boys is in part because he would be hard-pressed to find a group that carries the financial security of a group like FB. In simple arithmetic, he would more than likely have to take a big cut in pay if he went with another group, unless he went with someone like the Gaither Vocal Band, Gold City, or Kingdom Heirs…and even the last two are doubtful. The simple fact of the matter is that despite the Florida Boys being viewed as yesterday’s headliners, in terms of the venues they play and the financial success that they are, they are definitely top-tier. To suggest otherwise is to stick one’s head in the sand and be content with one’s denial.

On Dottie Dolls
[Why are you] so hung up on being ugly. I think the Dottie Doll is neat idea. She is a very famous person in the SG and other music related industries. I do not think there is a chance of a “A Very Fine Line” anything that will happen, not a chance.

On me and nastiness
I must admit that I agree with a some of your articles and some are just plain trashy, but why be nasty and judgemental? We need to build up the SG industry with prayer, positve suggestions, facts, and professionalism.

On various things
Hello! First, I would like to say that I really enjoy your website. Sometimes, I don’t agree, but I probably agree 95% of the time. Anyways, I would like to ask what happened to Peg? I have attended several of the McKameys’ concerts, and she has kicked her shoes off at least 75% percent of the time. But I was in awe when she didn’t kick them off when I saw them sing a week or so ago. Although, I would like to commend them on their decency. Also I noticed that next weekend on Paul Heil’s “The Gospel Greats”, Bill Gaither is the featured artist with songs from his solo cd. Can we say blegh!? What is so strange about it is that Bill hosts a weekly syndicated radio program as well. Is this some way off making peace for the favorite radio program award? By the way, have you heard the Collingsworth Family? They are a great group and with a heart to serve the Lord. Their new cd, “God is Faithful”, is extremely awesome! I think you should listen to it,and talk about them more. Well, that’s all. Thanks for the great and true website! AS P.S.-Did the crabby chocolates give you a good day?

On Clear Cool
Clear Cool will be the destruction of all things SG in 10 years. There will no longer be any true gospel music, just a buncha vertical praise nonsense, and the Crabbs are the vehicle that will transport us to that destination.

On TNA and booing
Actually, it may have been Carl Lewis that got booed (@2004) later than Rosanne. And, it was justified too awful. The last star to get booed at Wrigley Field for his rendition of “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” was NASCAR’s Jeff Gordon.

On PDA in a song
Thanks for the good commentary on the “Jesus is my boyfriend” song. Can you imagine the Blackwoods or the Statesmen, or Lord forbid, David in the Psalms coming up with this sort of tripe? Most of these lyrics in the SG world of today would make their forefathers turn in their graves - no wonder the older generation is going so quickly. “I want to lay upon your chest”? Does God have a chest? I thought God was a SPIRIT. He doesn’t have a chest, a beard or anything - He is Spirit - I Cor. 15:45. I guess that is what you get for hybreeding two different kinds of love - Gods’ and mans’. Ugh…

More on TNA
Who’d of ever thought we’d be discussing TNA on a Gospel music website. I thought that sort of talk was reserved for quartets either on the bus or in a Waffle House. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

On the Crabbs branching out with Clear Cool
The news of the Crabb Family group is disturbing to me. First of all the press release which Ed Leonard says that as Daywind’s artists are presented to the Contemporary music genre they win big every time. When has this happened? Can anyone name one Daywind artist that has won a Contemporary music award? Understanding the Crabb Family’s need to branch out is one of only economics. The Crabbs more than likely feel that they have achieved the highest level of success that they can reach in SG. I hate to inform them that they have not. Though they do very well they have not totally won the area of SG. It seemed they were on this path when they had their father with them however that seems to have diminished. Aside from this if you go to their website you see they are still playing some medium size churches and I dare say that contemporary’s Mercy Me more than likely wouldn’t play those type of venues.

On observations from the west
Hope you’re off to a good year, and apparently a very busy one… An observation about how the Gaither deals work: Originally the Gaither sked (as well as some artist friends) showed Gaither homecomings in Mar 24 in Omaha and Mar 25 in Denver. Apparently the advance sale stuff was not up to snuff. The next thing you know, the Gaithers had wiped the slate clean for those two dates. Artist friends still had ‘em. Talked with booking agencies, because I was curious about getting some groups expecting to be in Denver to come up to Montana. I know, cold does strange things to your mind. That didn’t work. But the friends booked other locales on those dates … finally it shows up on Gaither sked that Vocal Band and EHSSQ will do two concerts in Florida on those dates. Just those two groups. Since last posting something to you, we’ve had Palmetto State (October), Legacy 5 (November) and Stamps (Jan) in the Flathead Valley of Montana. Palmettos are much better without Tony, and the lead actually sang some leads. Andrew wasn’t as ambitious as on some other outings, they sounded very good with their new line up, altho the bass, Tex, was amped up a little too much thru the woofer. Leg 5 had a big night here, and one of our best crowds — 500 or so — for touring groups. Stamps came in right after their tenor of a few years, Royce Taylor, had quit in mid December to join a Blackwood group (which one I don’t know) and their young piano player had quit — homesick I guess, so it was Steve Warner’s first gig with them on a short, temporary assignment. They, too, sounded much better than the last time they were here, with Michael Helwig, I think it is, the Canadian guy, who’s been at baritone since the failing Ed Hill was bounced. Butch wasn’t as big and muddy in the woofer as on another occasion. Enoch said he had sent a letter to several folks (groups, I think) about how he saw the state of affairs for SoGo, and I’d like to see what he had to say.

On TNA and freedom
“Oh say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light? What so proudly we hailed, at the twilight’s last gleaming. Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thru the perilous fight, Oh the ramparts we watched, we so gallantly streaming. And the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof thru the night, that our flag was still there! Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave, O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?”

No matter how many times you hear it, it remains inspiring. Enjoy your freedom to rant.

On commenting on Doug Riley’s death
In one long paragraph, you captured the essence of every question, every “why”, and every wondering of my heart since my Dad died, and 24 days later, my wife. Do not ever apologize for tackling the subject, and I beg of you to not ever be loathe to handle the death of anyone in sgm again. Whatever tributes will be written about Doug Riley, no matter how many eloquent eulogies will be spoken… Your words were more honest and more perfectly written, than any others will be. You honored him more than whole videos have honored men and women far more known. And I thank you.

On responding to Doug Riley’s death
I received an email from Southern Spin today informing me of Doug Riley’s death. Now I may be reading too much into the wording and it is definitely not my intention to be mud slinging in the middle of such a tragic event, but I really felt as if the wording in her email seemed a little on the tasteless side. Her email read “Please remember our client, Gold City…” Again, maybe I read too much into it but if it were me, the last word that I would use would be nothing less than “friend” even if it were used as a loose term. I don’t know, maybe I’m alone in this but I hope not. May God be with The Riley family in what would have to be the darkest day in their lives.

On passing the torch
I liked your writing this week on the Singing News’ latest issue. Good stuff. I do want to comment about the Torch video. I’ve … a review coming on my blog (in addition to the Gaither Canadian homecoming videos and the horrible sister of Torch called Having Church), but you and me will be the only ones to read it. If you’re upset with the name, join the club. No imagination at all, but the short DVD is simply wonderful. From the get-go, it’s wonderful. Starting off with Loren Talley, Scott Inman, the McRae sisters, and (of course) Adam Crabb, they do a rousing version of “The Race.” It’s very good, but too much Talley and not enough McRaes. Then we head off to that tired old standard, “Stand Up,” where we see the first of some very promising young quartets. This one includes Jeremy Peace, Josh Feamster, Derrick Selph, and Jeremy Lile (a surprising good bass). Excellent. If they had only done another song. It’s followed by “He Shall Wear a Crown” where host Mike Speck (who rubs me the wrong way-he’s loved by nearly everyone, but I find him obnoxious and too “preachy”-later proclaiming the second coming is just hours away) dips down into the vault for a old Nelon’s song featuring, surprise, Russ Nelon’s granddaughter. I did enjoy Christian Davis’ bass singing on this one. Mike brings up Jason Crabb for Midnight Cry and the kids of gospel music for “He’s Still Working on Me.” Ugh. Then, the program changes and we get the next quartet, made up of John Rulapaugh (in conservative suit), Lance Moore of Paid in Full (this kid is good-he needs to quit his job in Alabama ( the whole group needs to) and hit the road.), Josh Singletary, and Aaron McCune. McCune is probably the best bass in sg today. A real entertainer and I don’t say that because he lives near me. It’s followed by a forgettable version of “Grace” by three youngsters.

On the next song we get to hear Joseph Habedank, Katy Peach, and Jason Waldroup on “Who Am I” with “Oh What a Savior. Just fantastic. Habedank is simply what baritone singing is all about and for his young years is simply unbelievable. Peach is just wonderful and Waldroup, those cardboard-ish does a fine job. Then the Anthony Facello, Josh Gardner, Scott Inman, and Chris West quartet comes on to blow everyone on “Boundless Love.” These guys should form a group. Such enthusiasm! Facello may be sg’s best tenor, Gardner its best lead and West its second-best bass. They brought down the house. The last two songs are Ok, but not great, but it’s worth the price of admission for the two quartets and the trio of Peach, Habedank, and Waldroup. If there was any doubt that sg lacked talent, fear not. A lot of the young singers didn’t get a chance to share the stage. It was too dominated by Crabbs and other Daywind artists (as is expected with a Daywind showcase), but more later.

On letting sg be sg
The other day, while traveling in a new area, I hit the search button on my car radio and it stopped on a country station. I used to listen to country a lot, back in the 70’s, but haven’t really paid much attention to it recently. As I listened I realized the music hadn’t changed from 30 years ago. The melodies and lyrics were different, but the style was about the same. That got me to thinking. Why do some people think Southern Gospel needs to change? When I listen to a bluegrass band it sounds like bluegrass has always sounded. Dixieland is still Dixieland. Reggae and Calypso still sound the same even though new songs come out. Even hard rock hasn’t changed much (I don’t think - I really can’t stand the stuff), and when rap came along it simply was a new genre, not the “change” of an existing one. Southern Gospel is called that because it was necessary to separate the sound of the traditional male quartets from other branches of gospel music. Now we have people wanting to bring all sorts of sounds in Southern Gospel in the name of change, or progress. I say let Southern Gospel be what it has always been. If some artist or some listener wants something different, that’s fine. Just don’t try to include it in those wonderful, traditional, Southern Gospel sounds. I can still tell country music when I hear it, and bluegrass, but it’s getting so I can’t identify Southern Gospel any more, and in my mind that is not a good thing.

On Blurring the Lines
I noticed the Crabb Family’s new c.d. is all old songs. Could this have something to do with the split of Gerald with Kathy? Is there a possibility that he is no longer writing for the group? If so, will they be able to keep their present “fame” status without his awesome song writing contributions?

On gizoogle and other things
My students in class pointed me in the direction of a most humorous website several months ago. It gives you the ability to translate any website into “Snoop-dog.” Me, being the wacky thinker that I am, plugged in the Singing News website. Results were hilarious …. Also, I was going back through some of my contemporary music selection, and noticed in the liner notes of Salvador’s first album a couple of songs–”Cry Holy” and “Hallelujah”–written by Benjy Gaither & Marshall Hall. Great songs, and I wonder how many more “contemporary songs” are out there that were written by those with ties to sg. I mean, we all know Steven Curtis Chapman wrote “I Can See the Hand” for the Cats back in the 80s, but I didn’t know it worked the other way too.

On breaking (and broken) news
What a disgrace. While the rest of the world is learning more and more details surrounding Anthony Burger’s death, as of noon the day after, this is all sogo has to say: “SGN just learned that Anthony Burger has tragically died from a heart attack. He was on a cruise and playing the piano when he died. We will post more info when we learn it. Please remember the Burger family at this tragic time.” I guess Anthony wasn’t buying into the Unthank publicity circle. This is embarrassing for an outfit that claims to be a “source” for information. Even GaitherNet had more information available without a subscription.

On my comments about Burger’s Death
What a nice tribute to one of Southern Gospel’s greatest performers. And what a performer he was!!

On blood pressure
To all the uber-moralistic people who criticized Allison Lynn for shacking up, well, she is now married: http://allisonlynn.blogspot.com/ They need to find some other way to raise their blood pressure now. I miss your regular postings, but don’t blame you a bit for cutting back. The tiny world of So Gospel is an interesting phenomenon, but still just that: tiny.

On losses
It’s been a very unpleasant 2006 as far as sg artists go. Losing Doug Riley and Anthony Burger so young is quite a shock. It probably is safe to say that Burger will be sorely missed. Even though there are those who have compared him to Liberace over the last few years, if you watched closely, here was a master of the piano. A real student of the classics and a very accurate player. The same could be said for Riley, except most thought he only played drums. I understand he was a terrific producer and sound engineer. Someone said he could hear a pin drop in the studio-his hearing was that good. Two very talented people are no longer with us.

On shutting up
It seems to me that someone thinks they are an authority on everything. It would be wise for those who cannot speak well of someone, TO KEEP THEIR POISON MOUTH SHUT.

On charity and the stage
Good thoughts about groups and “It’s for a good cause.” I sing in a local/regional group in west Texas doing about 25-35 dates a year. We’re nothing special and I would be frightened for you to comment on our musical abilities. However, like national touring groups we also have an operating budget and will not go somewhere just because someone says “it’s for a good cause.” While we aren’t relying on the “take” to make a living, we do value our time and our time away from our families and the other things we could be doing. Because of that we do limit the number of pro bono dates we do. Except in one such case here recently we hosted a benefit concert for wildfire victims close to our hometown. A town of 1000+ people lost about 40% of their town. Being that the town is relatively close to our hometown, about 50 miles, we thought it would go well. We asked 4 other artists to be involved who were also from our hometown. We were pleasantly surprised by the turn out 750+ people attended and the concert raised over $6,200. While I agree with you what you said, sometimes it does payoff! But, I would guess a benefit like ours would be the exception rather than the rule!

On defending avfl
I have been reading your website for the past couple months, and for someone who is GREATLY interested in the BUSINESS side of SG, your site is incredible. No more of the sugar-coated, cookie cutter press releases that only present what people WANT you to think (kind of a double standard, if you ask me). I WILL say that, at times, it borders on gossip, but overall, it gives fans a completely different perspective. I’d like to comment on the reader who was recently referred to your site via the Singing News Magazine (Ventriloquist). The easiest way is to tackle the comment a bit at a time.

*/I’m not sure why The Singing News told me to go [averyfineline.com]. /*They never told you to come here. They simply listed sites that dealt with southern gospel music. If the /Singing News/ told you to jump off the steeple….

*/I’ve gone through all your stuff and nothing has blessed me. /*I didn’t realize this was a sermon site.

*/ I don’t think your writing is anointed or you would be singing the praises of my favorite quartet the Inspirations and my favorite mixed group the McKameys. // /**/Now you talk about annointed. /*Love the Inspirations, like the McKameys. I also like The Oak Ridge Boys, Johnny Cash, and Vertial Horizon. Doesn’t mean that everyone has to listen to their music to be a Christian.

* /You go on and on and on but never seem to mention salvation or which group has saved the most souls at its altar calls. /*Maybe you missed the point.

*/ Maybe you better get right with the Lord before you write anything more about the only type of music that Jesus listens to. /*For some reason, I find it hard to believe that Jesus spent every weekend at an all-night sing with a piano and four voices. If I remember correctly, he spent most of his time with drunks, prostitues, and junkies (and I doubt they’d be listening to “God On The Mountain”!).

*Apparently, there are still some people who keep a copy of the Singing News next to their Bible on their bedstand (and I wonder sometimes which gets more reading time!). I guess all-in-all, there will always be extremes. In this case, it’s the ones who feel that those in SG can do no wrong. To those people, I quote Johnny Cash….”You’re so heavenly minded, you’re no earthly good…” KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

On not being blessed
What is the deal with everyone saying that they haven’t been blessed? I read the Singing News and I am never blessed. I read it for entertainment. I get blessed when I go to church or hear a song that touches me.

On theology
Maybe this anointed NG [who wrote about not getting saved by reading my site] should check up on his/her theology and know that individuals or groups of individuals don’t do the saving.

On reading avfl
I really enjoy your website. After subscribing to the Singing News for many years, I was resigned to the fact that post-Cathedrals Southern Gospel music was limited to mediocrity and an extremely narrow worldview. Thank you for making an effort to promote professionalism and excellence in the product and Christian love and understanding in the hearts.

On keeping score at funerals
I don’t know, that’s just a little whack. Tsk-ing over what SG names weren’t at the funeral? Bemoaning the fact there weren’t more piano players there? Etc. etc.? Sheesh. I think she’s overworking herself a little bit.

On the Perrys, This is Day
I couldn’t have said it better. Everything you have commented on the “This is the Day” project is right on. This project should and will do down in Gospel Music history as one of the best. Every song on this project could have been a charting song. Even the ones with the bass lead!! As my dad lie on his death bed, the song “Wish I could have been there” was playing in his ear. As he took his final breath, Heaven’s gates opened wide and into the presence of God he was!! When I think about this project, the excitement of knowing the Lord swells to a depth that’s unimaginable. And knowing that there are groups out there who haven’t gotten to far away from the true southern gospel roots, that present their song with professionalism and crowned with the anointing of God, well what else could you look for. The bad thing is to top what couldn’t have or ever will be any better! The Life of Love was great and as I have heard you say about the song where Libbi goes up on the part “I’ve always had a song”, that too as good as it gets. There’s not a group out there to compare them to.

On the Burger funeral
I was glad to see that someone else thinks as I do. Even if the Kingsmen couldn’t be there in Nashville for the funeral, I think some mention could have been made of them at some time either verbally or in print. If you read all the accounts of his experience, it would appear that he went to a conservatory and there is a gap of several years before he joins the Gaither organization. After all, Anthony spent many years with the Kingsmen. I read today that he was 15 when he joined them and lived with Eldridge Fox and his wife and went to highschool. I don’t know for a fact, but I would venture that he spent about as many years with the Kingsmen as he did with the Gaither organization. Perhaps they were more widely represented and mentioned at the Cleveland service. I hope so.

On Talley’s comments after Burger’s death
How sad. I’m so sad. Anthony was such a wonderful man; it hurts my heart that Kirk is still so callous despite all that has happened. How could he even make such comments. Certainly we have all said and done things we regret. Goodness knows I have, but my mind or heart cannot grasp such mean-spirited venom, especially during a grief-filled time like this. I have said it before, and now more than ever, Kirk needs prayer. To Anthony’s family, I extend my deepest condolences. My thoughts and prayers go out to them.

On star gazing at death
Don’t you find it tasteless that this individual would use someone’s death as an opportunity for “star gazing” by attending BOTH viewings and the funeral?

On replacing Burger
I hope that what I have to say is not premature or dis-respectful in any to the legacy that Anthony Burger left behind but I feel a need to throw in my two cents worth. In Lily Isaac’s interview with I assume some radio station the question was asked of her who she thought would replace Anthony on the Gaither stage. She stated that Roy Webb with SSQ filled in on the remainder of the cruise after Anthony’s passing. It will be a sad sad day in the gospel music industry if some short tied shaggy haired clown from SSQ takes Anthony’s place. Anthony was the perfect example of an industry standard and if Roy does fill that slot then we will know without a doubt that Bill Gaither is not as true to Southern Gospel Music as he is acting.

On none of your bidness
Gosh, Avery….I wonder if whoever this was who gave you the “on the scene” account of Anthony’s funeral ever stopped to think that it really isn’t anybody’s business if someone didn’t make it there. You never know why. I’ve not been able to attend the funeral of some very very dear friends because of various things, didn’t feel I had to justify it to the public. I do know that several friends did attend the Cleveland funeral service.

On the George Younce Gaither video
The ‘Tribute to George Younce ‘ ANOTHER Gaither-make-a-buck event ! I couldn’t agree more. ALL Gaither productions sound alike…… Granted, he and his wife have written some wonderful songs, but this avalanche of Homecoming Videos have ended at my house . Do they feel by changing locations for those, they will be something different ???? NOT !! I loved Anthony Burger and I cringe to think what Gaither will do (OR IF) with a tribute to him…..ALL Gaither, would be my guess.. Is this strictly a ‘make another buck business’ on his part, or what ??? Most disappointing and as for me, I won’t be tuning in any more to the shows or buying another video, or DVD….They all sound the same !!!! How sad !

On pictures
The photo of Anthony Burger was amazing. It was as if he died doing what he loved to do. We hear that so often, but in this case it was true. It’s a terrible loss to gospel music in many ways. How do you fill the holes being made today? There is no one to replace a Jake Hess or a Vestal Goodman. Same is true with George Younce and Hovie Lister. While on pictures, another thing bothered me a bit. I was reading some message board and they posted a link to Mark Lowry’s site which had “pictures” of the Burger funeral. I thought that was strange, but, of course, I hustled on over there to see. Now, I have to admit that in my 50+ years of living I have never seen a camera or anyone taking pictures at a funeral. Maybe I’ve lived a sheltered life, I don’t know, but it’s never happened at a funeral I’ve attended. There are shots supposedly taken by Mark of most of the funeral, including one of Anthony in the casket. That’s just bizarre. It’s maybe uncouth or a southern tradition, but I’ve never seen it. I remember all the controversy when they leaked pictures of Elvis in the casket to the National Enquirer, so maybe it is a southern tradition. Anyway, like a lot of funerals, it was like a big old Homecoming reunion. I saw faces you don’t see in the videos anymore like Jim Hill, Lulu Romans, and others who I recognized but can’t name right now. Mark didn’t sing with the Gaithers. My guess that was because he was taking pictures. I still say it’s strange. And David Phelps singing with the GVB has to be the first time the Homecoming bunch has seen him and maybe the beginning of healing over the hard feeling when he left. I’m sure David could use the income from a Homecoming concert. Enough for tonight. We miss the fact you don’t post more often, but if anyone understands being busy, it’s me.

On what’s in a name
I couldn’t agree with you more on your comments concerning the “big name” songwriters. As a “no name” songwriter myself, I find it incredibly frustrating when groups send out e-mails and have blips on their websites saying….” We have this new project coming out, and it’s got great songs by Joel Lindsey, Gerald Crabb, Kyla Rowland…blah, blah, blah”. So what? Are they any good? Those words tell me that what they did, in all likelihood, was record songs by writers with a nice track history, who didn’t necessarily submit a substantive song. It also tells me that likely they overlooked some great songs sent in by the no-name songwriters. Rex Nelon once said that groups should always listen to every song they get in the mail and every song they get handed in person at concerts. Listen to them all. What have you got to lose? Nothing. What have you got to gain? Possibly a big hit song.

On the other Burger funeral in Cleveland
While that may be the one ‘no one remembers’ because it was not filled with names people know, it was truly the one that depicted Anthony in a complete light, not focusing on him as an artist. Everyone who spoke knew him well and loved him it was plain to see. The pastor gave a message of salvation, hope and comfort. Just thought you might want to know.

On how to cover famous deaths
While this is sad that Anthony Burger passed away, the websites are saturated with it. I have followed gospel music all of my life and have enjoyed him since the Kingsmen, but, there are alot of people who have passed away that were not in the limelight and it is equally as sad for those left behind. I’m not saying we shouldn’t honor him, but, he is not any higher than anyone else.

On that NG comment about not getting saved after reading my site
Ouch! I just want to say one thing here. The majority of people who come to this site aren’t looking for salvation or a blessing, myself included. I come here to get some insight into the world of SGM. If I or anyone else wants salvation or a blessing, we go to church. I appreciate the fact that there is a place like avery that tells it straight and doesn’t care what others think. Plus, from what I’ve seen, everything that comes through is fact. Keep doing what you’re doing and let the nay-sayers go elsewhere. I’ll keep reading!

On the last pic of AB
It may just have been intensity, but Anthony appears to be in pain. A very poignant pic in any case.

On avfl
Hello! I am writing concerning your site. I have to agree about 25% with the letter on your criticism you posted from an appalled reader . Sometimes, it is like you are making fun of artists just because you don’t like them. It’s not right that you criticize an artist just because of one little thing they do on stage. I know you may not like them, but they are just trying to convey the message of Jesus’ salvation. You also need to actually pay attention to the lyrics of their songs (McKameys, Inspiration, Primitives, etc.). You’ll find that they are often better than the Crabbs, Greater Vision, Perrys, JBIF, etc. It makes your site look bad when all you do is criticize the clothes or stage presence, and DO NOT go for the real reason why they sing. It’s not what a person wears, the way they talk, SING, or act on stage!!!!! It’s all about the blood of Jesus and how He can save our sins. So you need to tone down on the criticism and just add some comments-unlike the stuff that has been posted on the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, though, for your strong anti-Crabb demonstration!!!!! Thanks very much!

On Mercys Mark’s sophomore project
I see in the announcement that they will be “working on their much anticipated sophomore project from Daywind Records”. I realize that sophomore can be used as an adjective but why not just say their second ? Does that mean we’ll see a junior and senior project? At least it wasn’t described as sophomoric!

On The funeral sermon at AB’s service
I read the recounts of Anthony Burgers funeral on your website. I thought the comment about Rev. Dan Scott’s sermon being “okay” was way off of the mark. It was amazing! I asked for a copy and received it. I’ve attached it for you to judge yourself.

On both of us being right
You get so many emails you probably don’t remember this, but just after GC hired Bill as their bass. Replacing Daddy Riley, we both thought he wouldn’t last long. You said Tim would fire Bill and find another bass. I said Tim would be back with the group to tour in a year or so. Well, guess what? We were both right. Bill resigned today and Tim going back on the road with the group (though they say they are looking for a new bass).

On linking to myspace sg accounts
I think posting this was a creepy thing for DBM to do. This isn’t something that was intended for EVERYONE to see. It has caused a disgusting conversation over at amgs. (What else is new?) Usually I enjoy everything you cover. This time, however, I wish you would please rethink your link.

On the Imperials
I read where Jim Murray, Dave Will, Armond Morales and Steve Evans have signed a recording contract with Robbie Hiner and Nick Bruno to record under the name Classic Imperials…………and I find it amazing that Joe Moscheo, Terry Blackwood, Sherman Andrus and Gus Gatches are performing as the Imperials…….. http://www.theimperials.us/ And what really gets me is that the present group of Imperials can not get a mainstream record company to produce them and even have to team up with the Unthanks to get publicity…………….Seems to me when Armond retired he should have just retired the Imperials…………..and seems like its Murray, Morales and Will versus Andrus, Blackwood and Moscheo……………. Such an unhappy family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On not messing with Sheri Easter
Can you believe the strong arm tactics used by the little old sweet Sheri Easter?

On good songwriting
Just wanted to say thanks for applauding what songwriters contribute to the world of southern gospel. You are one of a very few who understands the importance of great songs and appreciates the contributions of people like Joel Lindsey, Kyla Rowland, Wayne Haun and others.

On SN Forums
Hi! Just wondering if you’ve really checked out those Singing News forums. There’s some stuff on there that’s a little wild for the Singing News, don’t ya think? I’m talking about the For Men Only and the For Women Only personal discussion parts of the forum. Who’d have thought the Singing News site would become a place to go talk about sex?

On reading avfl and theology and stuff
Have thoroughly enjoyed the blog the last few weeks. Your wit, intellect, and sheer brilliance with the written word never cease to impress me. The piece on ambiguity was especially touching, because I have and continue to undergo changes in my theology. I don’t think I’ve ever doubted my salvation, but more and more I find myself wondering how exactly God works. How is it that a quick “God, help me accomplish this task” prayer can be as “effective” as a devoted time of meditation and intercession? Why is it that God says He’ll give me anything, and yet I feel so guilty asking for somewhat materialistic sorts of things, especially when so many people in my academic circle need salvation? I know God’s ways are higher than my ways, but it still doesn’t mean I don’t try to figure them out, and get somewhat frustrated in the process.

On the Gaither Jessy Dixon video
I saw this for the first time last night. Did anyone else get the impression that Bill and Jessy weren’t on the same page????????? Yea, verily, maybe not even in the same room or the same town? The delivery on both sides was a little wooden. About the only thing we needed was the dialogue in words appearing on the screen at the same time they spoke. Of course, Jessy answered in monosyllables and was something less than a scintillating interviewee. Bill could have done us all a favor and just run the clips and skipped the conversation.

From during the hiatus
Just wondering where you are? Have you ran out of nasty insults? Come on have we gotten a little laid-back and lazy? Maybe God was just sick of your crude negativity.

On Second Mile
Just wondering if you had a chance to hear the Second Mile clips. Curious on your thoughts. I love it. It’s exactly what the name of the project describes without going for the typical “naming the album after a song” thing. The message is very Vertical. Great photography, etc. I look for them to do some major touring as “openers” for your premier CCM worship artists. It’s interesting, Buddy’s voice is very marketable and his wife is very good to. Donny is solid. However, they are one of those groups that together collectively are awesome. Or I enjoy much better as a group than if they were just individual artists. Of course Channing’s not a shabby guy to have on hand either with his producing and arranging capabilities. Not to mention his talent at keys, accordion (which sounds great with this group on several cuts), piano and other synth stuff. Word is the live presentation is something to be seen. Lots of energy. Donny plays some piano, channing plays all of the above and Buddy rocks out on acoustic with some very SCC driving guitar parts. I listen to it all the time on my Ipod. GREAT GREAT GREAT

On vocal troubles
I just read that one of our favorite female vocalists Angie Hoskins has suffered a torn vocal cord? I just don’t understand how something like this could happen! What’s next….Evil Kneival breaks a bone?

On running my mouth
It’s interesting to me how the professionals in the “Southern Gospel field” continue to do nothing accept run Kirk Talley down. The question is, can the blood of Jesus Christ and cross he died on do what it claims it can do or not. Is it up to us to judge Kirk? I think that some of you gospel singers get on stage and talk out of the side of your mouth. If any of you gospel singers are with out sin, cast the first stone. Other wise, keep your mouth SHUT !!!!!!!!!

On mislaid lyrics
I don’t know why this is so funny. Unless your being dirty minded.

From during one of my hiatuses
Too bad the Unthanks don’t teach school!

More typos
Kind of reminds me of something I saw at my cousin’s wedding awhile ago. At the church they were handing out the wedding programs, and on the cover was a lovely picture of rings, and a Bible, and the verse at the bottom said “THRUST in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding………”

On the SGM FanFair
The Fan Fair organizers really were working hard in the ‘wishful thinking’ department the night that I was there. In comparison to their first event just barely 6 months ago their crowd was up. Which really doesn’t say a lot. In August I witnessed the Hoppers sing to 175 (generous estimation) in the larger convention center with 5000 seats. This time I saw Karen Peck and NR perform to maybe nearly 500 in the smaller wing of the convention center which actually had 1000 counted seats. The event organizers really ought to get some experienced promoters like Frank Arnold or Bill Bailey to help them out. I again heard several locals say from the booth area that they had seen no local advertising. I sincerely would like to see an event of this type gain some ground in a different time of year from NQC, but I don’t see how this is going to happen when your biggest profit is to sell booths to aspiring artists rather than tickets to fans. I also noted that there were only 2-3 recognizable name artists per evening in the concert line-up. You could almost describe it as a regional concert with 3 main artists and 20 local opening groups.

More on the Fan Fair
i gotta get this off my chest, so i was hoping you would post something about the sgm fan fair, its poor attendance, and their fan awards……PUH-LEEZE?!?!?! “From reports I hear, the SGM Fan Fair was NOT a very well attended event. Does this not surprise anyone? To even conceive the notion that someone like Mike Shelby, who is best known for his “hip” looking lemon colored suit at NQC, who sings with one of those “we’re a full-time group, but nobody has barely heard of us” called Eternal Vision to win Favorite Baritone, right underneath Guy Penrod winning Favorite Lead Singer, and then to have other members of this “professional full-time” group win awards as well, to me, makes this Fan Fair nothing short of a complete joke. This whole thing stinks worse than a dead skunk in the summer heat.

On my comments about Talley
It doesn’t help to down someone when they are down and sin is sin and God can forgive anyone of sin. It doesn’t help to kick them when they are down!!!

On Blur the Lines
I am not body special in the world of Southern Gospel Music. I’m just an average Joe in middle America who enjoys hearing goods songs presented with a message. I would think above all else that my opinion mattered more than some critic, right? With that being said, let me say how very disappointed I am in the Crabb Family. Their latest project lacks substance, style and is in no way enjoyable. I am so disappointed in them. With Daddy Crabb gone it seems they have lost their direction. Kathy seems to be steering them in way that seems strange even for them. As the preacher’s some time preach, it’s like they are straddling the fence. The song, Friend of God sound just like the folks over at Lakewood singing it, Redeemer, is a fine song, but not an Crabb orginal, I go to the Rock, sound like it’s dragging. And what ever #3 is could be left off. As soon as I hear it start I click next. It’s one of those songs that gets in your head and drives you crazy. If this is the path the Crabbs are taking, give it a few years and they will be no more. Just like the hot shot tenors who leave the Gaither Vocal Band thinking they are the next big thing and within a year or so they are no more, or else the take up home decorating and hawking their wares on some reality show, as was the case with Jonathan Pierce. True Crabb fans will stay for a little while, but we are use to recording that speak to the heart and reflect every day life. This project is no more than a filler, meaning they put it out until they can get some decent songs of their own. Maybe Father knew best, after all. One can only assume.

On avfl
We love you! What would SGM be without you now. You have brought something to SGM that has been needed and it’s called “speaking the truth.” You’re our “Simon” of SGM. Most people think he’s a little crude but they like it because he’s truthful. It takes more to tell the truth than to tell a lie! Looking forward to having you back.

AVFL NOT SUITABLE FOR KIDS
I just opened the history of the Internet usage on our home computer. A practice that any good christian parent should be doing! I saw the usual hits on Gospel sites. Then I saw your site. Curious I opened the site and did not think much other than I confirmed that it just another one of those sites that are a waste of time but oh well. Certainly not thinking on the things the Bible tells us to think on; but, that is what you have chosen and others have chosen to do with their time. I see a negative thought, but, a reference to prayer. Just as I was scrolling down I saw something that solidified my distaste for many of the so called gospel groups out there today. Yes, we are all human and all of us sin but to publish our sin around the world such as you did? The disrespect for the writer of that song. The disrespect to the artist and the disrespect to the sanctity of what God intended to be a beautiful act between a husband and wife. Sad you are. When is the last time you cracked your Bible? When is the last time you were in church? Do you faithfully serve in a local church? Here is the ultimate question, would you want your children to count you as a “hero of the faith”? My advice to my children today, Averyfineline has drawn the line and you are done in this house!!!!

On my hiatus
Dude, like where are you? Even though I disagree with you on many things, your a left wing liberal, I’m a right wing conservative, I still like to hear what you have to say. I mean, the LEAST that you can do is comment on what you think about the new Crabb cd and their pic on the cover of SN.

More on my hiatus
Where have you gone, Professor?! Again, we’re in withdrawal! You’re taking these unauthorized sabbaticals too frequently these days! My fear is that your Avery workload has you burned out - am I correct? I hope you can muster up whatever you need to get back writing again, because you’re missed…

And some more
Where are you these days? I may not always agree with your opinion, but, I still enjoy reading your comments. I hope you are just busy and not ill.

On finding avfl
I just discovered your site, it’s well written, I love your head on approach. I really dislike the Unthanks too, they’re everything why people in Europe sometimes hate Americans…hypocrites, and control freaks, who try to be best of friends with the high and mighty within the industry. And all to profit from it (I love money though, nothing wrong with making it) or to propel their mediocre singing group, yaaagh. Really think the administrators are the unfriendliest bunch of ‘christians’ out there. They banned me for life….to be honest don’t wanna be caught there ever again. I’m from Amsterdam Holland and I’ve been collecting SG-music from the late seventies/early eighties. I loved Ernie Haase up to the Cats - Climbing, Higher and Higher ‘90 album, after that he went down hill. Why is he always, when he finally hits a high power/solid note, taking the mike to his bellybutton level? What’s with that?? I have the same thing with him as Jason Crabb when I see Ernie sing, they look and sing as if, it really hurts. I’m not a bought by the blood bible believing Christian (as Hamill used to put it) but love the music. I believe in God, just never made a decision to …walk the talk, so to say. Imo the best thing that happened in the last 10-15 yrs or so, to southern Gospel music was Gaither hands down. Yet the worst thing to happen was also somewhat Gaither related talking about Michael Sykes …..i like what he done production wise, but the style of the early GVB albums was too far stretched. Dobro, harmonica, B3 organs, popped up out on the woodworks on almost every southern gospel release ever since. All the albums featured the same line up of studio musicians Kelly Back, Terry McMIllan, Bruce Watkins, Bobby All and David Huntsinger.. just to name a few. Only the A cappella GVB album and to some extend the ‘everything good’ album sounded different than others, but still haven’t heard something totally new. The ‘walk on water kinda day’ album of Crossway, had some interesting sounds, but still they choose to play it safe…and didn’t quite hit it off..because of it. The only quartet I really thought were sounding newer and fresher than most were Chosen Few…..still they’re not hittin’ home with the crowds. I haven’t heard a real new sound for over a decade….a shame. Love what you do, and I agree on almost everything I’ve read.

More from another convert
OK, I just discovered averyfineline.com today. Where have I been? You have some fantastic articles and observations. I had to comment on your post about The Perry’s recording “This Is the Day”. I agree whole-heartedly that this album should be a classic for the SG enthusiast. In fact, the last few albums released by the Perrys are all quality recordings. They have definitely found their niche in the SG market. One other classic recording that should be added to your collection with “This Is the Day” and “Preparing the Way” (one of Gold City’s best efforts) is “Travelin’ Live” by the Cathedral Quartet. They are at their best on this one and the songs are lyrically superior to most of their recordings. Keep up the great writing. I enjoy your perspective.

On avfl withdrawal
It’s great to see another post….even if it’s short! I’m looking forward to having your posts back on a more routine basis. I feel like something’s missing in my life when I can’t get new stuff from averyfineline!

On junk peddling in sg
I have always referred to the product table as a Gospel Flea Market, this just further solidifies it. I wish I had someone like you years ago to e-mail to prove “I said it first!”

On Sheri’s bidness sense
Both of Sherri’s degrees are in business (BBA, MBA). Shows doesn’t it. In another vein, it is that you are posting again. You are without question the erudite commentator on the SG scene in the history of the genre. I hope to get the opportunity to meet you at the NQC.

On various things
Good to have you back on a consistent basis. You will never know how wonderful it is to have some intelligent commentary on sg music from someone. This genre just dies without someone keeping all involved honest. Though the powers that be would never ever admit it, they read you and while you were gone they smiled and kept on doing the thing they do best. Vegetate. Just one comment about Gold City to start. I think I told you that Tim would be back on the road mainly because that’s what singers do. Yes he wanted to retire and fish and not be on the road so he could control his diabetes (which leads me to wonder why diabetics just don’t make the arrangements to eat right. If I had a condition like Tim, planning is essential. My wife’s a diabetic and she goes through quite a ritual when we leave to go places. It may mean going to iHop and ordering the coffee and going back to the bus and eating fruit, but you do it), but he’s a singer. They tried Bill Lawrence who dropped off the face of the earth after getting his “dream job” (just have to wonder what happened) and regardless of what super fans said, he was simply not the answer. They say they are looking, but Tim (at only about 60) is the answer and the glue that keeps it together. Since 2003, they’ve lost their tenor (Jay) and hired Steve, who is great, but thin and green. They lost Doug, who had more to do with this group than many imagined. Tim had to come back to make it Gold City. That and the fact that he showed up anytime that the groups legitimacy needed to be shown. GC is in a period of make it or break it. One more loss (Jon Wilburn??) would significantly kill them. Tim holds it together. I say he stays for awhile. We’ll see.

The Easters thing as well as the SSQ thing was bizarre. After scheduling both [at NQC], they disappeared probably because of the Gaither thing (which for crying out loud must be fixed-why?). EHSSQ had held firm to stay away, but the Easters found a way in. Would someone tell the NQC folks that they are not in the position to decide who and who cannot sing? One of the highlights of the NQC for a guy who wasn’t there are the DVD’s we can buy of the main program and the showcases. I keep going back to the Torch DVD. On there was excellent bass Jeremy Liles of Crystal River. Talent like that needs to go on the main stage and yet, they get dissed. Why? Their dress. I lived through the 60;s when my long hair (it really wasn’t that long, but I lived in rural WV where anything other than a buzz cut was long), bell bottomed pants and mutton chop sideburns were considered of the devil. That was over 35 years ago. It’s time they change.

As for MMQ, I am really upset. I don’t know why Chris West left (that family thing is getting old), but that guy needs to be singing somewhere. And Anthony is just too talented to sell real estate ( I’ve done that and the feast or famine thing will get to him after awhile). The replacements don’t thrill me and though they might make it, my guess is that the all-star format of the original bunch will never be duplicated. Christian Davis is OK, but West’s stage presence was a lot of MMQ’s appeal to me. And they do need to hire a legitimate baritone. All this is academic. If they’re singing by January, I’ll be shocked.

On my Crabb wedding crack
I take offense to your comments about Kathy and Steve’s wedding. … I hope Kathy can finally be happy with her new husband. … I hope every one will pray for them instead of being so critical of every thing they do. I would think that the divorce was kept quiet because of the children . I am sure that living in the public’s eye and have everything you do critiqued by people like you must be very hard. Especially if you are trying to live for God and help people when you feel like you need help most of all. I am sure that this has been very difficult for everyone concerned. If they had wanted to have the reception at the Golden Nugget with the Crabb kids in baby-blue tuxes and pink chiffon dresses, so be it! Some how that doesn’t seem to be any one’s business but the concerned party.

On finding avfl
I just found this site and have bookmarked it. I get tired of being “in the dark” about stuff. When someone suddenly drops out of a group or drops off the radar, often nobody says why. I feel like the big SG publications are only telling the sugar-coated side of the stories. I want to know what is really going on. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

On Chuck Peters
Is it just me or does it seem like around a year ago that Chuck started being “goody-goody” on the SoGospelNews.com message boards? He used to be a little more argumentative/differing in opinion with the staff in some of the posts and there were some pretty strained exchanges in the past but now everything seems to be “Sunshine and Roses” all of the time between the two internet SGM media members. Of course, Chuck does seem to spend more time in self-promotion of his internet business than sharing opinions these days with fellow message board members.

On visiting a Gaither Homecoming show
I recently attended the Gaither Antique Traveling Carnival of Hucksters in Winston-Salem, NC (April 22). This was my fourth GATCH show in approximately seven years and will no doubt be my last unless the format changes. Although I’m not sure how it would change with that many “artists” in tow. Anyway, it was my first exposure to the side-show of Ernie Haase. EHSS have been in the area a couple of times recently, but I wasn’t in a gospel concert mood at those times, so I passed. However, now that I have seen them, I can honestly say that I am thoroughly bored by them and their act. This is definitely a case where once is enough, if not too much. Obviously, I am in the minority in my opinion, but these guys are just exceedingly tiresome on stage. By the way, is this clear nail polish or just the way the light is shining in this picture? http://www.pbase.com/maryh/image/59101647 Not to mention that, vocally they aren’t really any better than, say a group like the Anchormen, or for that matter any 4 random guys that sing at Anytown Church of Christ Baptist Church of God during a Sunday morning P&W service. Then during the obligatory “break” they are hawking their product like the Miracle Tonic salesman in a bad episode of Gunsmoke. Which reminds me to ask, why is there the need for a “break” in a GATCH concert anyway? The “artists” only perform 2 songs then go sit down, for crying out loud. Maybe it’s more tiring than it looks? I don’t know. Why doesn’t Uncle Bill just say: “Everyone on tonight’s roster has performed, go jam the halls and buy some product while we set up some chairs. Then we’ll sing for 30 more minutes to make you feel better about the $35.00 ticket you bought and the $7.00 you paid to park.” Other observations from the evening:

* The pre-show emcee, a DJ from the local gospel radio station, seemed to be thrilled that the concert had moved from Greensboro to Winston-Salem…. not sure why, but they “plan to keep it in Winston-Salem”. I guess if we turn back and look toward GSO we’ll become a pillar of salt??
* Mercifully, there was no “Christian Comedian” at this show to bore the crowed for 15 minutes or so as in past concerts.
* Kevin Williams was absent, which was a let down. He’s a fine musician, not to mention that his one-liners are usually humorous. His straight man roll was relegated to the sound man.
* The Hoppers weren’t around at this concert right in their back yard. (In at least 2 past GATCH concerts they have brought up the “Original Hopper Brothers and Connie”).
* Russ Taff’s placement on the program provides a great opportunity for a rest-room break. Someone really should tell this guy that those black peg-legged pants and black pointy shoes are not a great look for him. Which reminds me, “What Not To Wear” could film an entire season with this Gaither bunch.
* Referring to the above point, most people in the crowd seemed to prefer a break during the Jessy Dixon segment (at least 150 people, by my estimate)
* Becky Isaacs appeared to be so bored to be there, that had she worn a placard declaring her boredom it would have been less obvious.
* The “bonus” CD, commemorating 10 years of GATCH is bound to have cost Uncle Bill all of 13 cents to produce - - glad I got mine!!

On Gayther and stuff
Although I don’t always agree with you (which I know you would not want), I thank you for these comments and think they are right on the mark. I had always been very encouraged that Mr. Gaither had not at least openly condemned gay people. It saddens me some now. It may sound blasphemous, but I can’t help thinking it may boil down to concert attendance and record sales. … Southern Gospel Music is my “church” and has been my connection to my faith for many years. I don’t attend concerts anymore of the groups who in my opinion are openly expressing hate. This includes the Steeles, the Dixie Melody Boys, and the Pfeiffers to name a few. I am certain that I will encounter more in the future. My biggest pet peeve with a lot of concerts is they don’t seem to know that their ministry is their music, and they feel the need to preach. That is not what I am paying for. It also seems to me to be like “preaching to the choir.” It is not like these concerts attract alot of heathens or people who don’t attend church regularly.

On ambiguity
Could you have made your “few comments about ambiguity” any lengthier or any more….ambiguous?

On thoughtful ambiguity
Just thought I’d drop you a note to let you know I think this is your most meaningful post yet - for myself anyway. I don’t think you’re the only one out there who has to let things go, sort things out, rebuild bridges . . . there’s lots of us out there who don’t necessarily “believe” strongly or easily in the things we’re supposed to - and I’m being ambiguous here because I suspect that my tradition dictates somewhat different cultural absolutes than yours. But we all have the search in common. I hold that if God is faithful and true, he will faithfully reveal himself to those who seek Him stubbornly, and Him only . . . and don’t too easily fall back on laziness or iron manmade absolutes. He has promised to reveal himself to those who seek Him with their whole heart, and I’ve found so far (though I’m merely twentysomething) that He does, just not always how you would like Him too, or how you’d expect. Thanks for the post. It takes a bit of courage to bare your heart online - but I suppose you’re getting somewhat used to it by now.

On what an idiot I am
you know, when you comment on Southern Gospel, there is no one better. You are cutting and insightful. Enjoy it thoroughly. It is what you do best. When you comment on politics and social issues, you are well below the level of moron. Best to stick to what you do best. Your comments on homosexuality would be mildly amusing if they weren’t so sad. Whether you intend to or not, you come across as blatantly pro-homosexual. Before you get on your little high horse and hammer me, I cannot tell you how many homosexuals have attended the services I run. I have publicly stated that they are welcome to come and hear the preaching. But I’m not going to back down from the fact that their lifestyle is an abomination. I’m not a Gaither fan nor am I his defender. He got himself inot this mess, he can dig his own way out. I am just suggesting that you do what you do best - biting, relevent commentary on the Southern Gospel industry. Politics? Go back to school, kid.

Parsing my ambiguity
Hello Mr. Harrison, it is very late, and I have just read this entry with understanding, and it’s very sad. With this entry you have shed your tough outside layers. At first, I loved your tell it like it is hard nosed way of thinking, but then you got off the music, and let us know that your a liberal, (of course, you’re a college professor) and now your defending homosexuals any chance you get. So at this point, I am taking your comments fwtheirw. But with this new entry your really letting us inside your heart.

“Lately, though, I’ve found myself not just listening but thinking - specifically, contemplating a question that I’ve vaguely batted around for years: what is so captivating about this music, this style, this genre? This isn’t just an intellectual exercise for me. One of my favorite jokes is that I’m a recovering Baptist, but I’m only really half joking, and in part that means I have a more complicated relationship with things like faith and theology than I once did.”

Complicated. That’s what your problem is. Your making the gospel too complicated. It really is very simple. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

” A lot of the things that used to “work” for me spiritually, religiously, theologically don’t any longer.”

In other words, all the things that you thought made you a believer, you are finding that they don’t really make you believe any more.

“Except gospel music. I know this to be true, and yet it’s not at all obvious why this should be so.”

You don’t understand why your still able to listen to gospel music when all the rest of the religious stuff doesn’t affect you anymore, yet the music still does.

” It probably won’t shock regular readers to find out that easy answers don’t satisfy me much.”

This is called pride and rebelliousness. And lack of faith.

“By this I mean no disrespect to people who possess the surety of faith and unshakeability of belief that I’ve always only read about or heard others describe.”

It’s sad that you have never experienced surety of faith or unshakeability of belief. But this explains why easy answers don’t satisfy you much. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

“But neither do I mean to surrender or disown the authenticity of my feelings simply because of their unorthodoxy.”

Surrender. That’s an excellent word. That’s what you need to do. Surrender to Jesus. Your knowledge, career, life, sins, whatever it is that’s keeping you from child like faith.

“Something that I don’t get anywhere else keeps me returning to the staggered endings and suspended harmonies and I-IV-V and turnarounds and glorious encores of gospel music, and since I’m not given to disingenuous commitments, I assume that that something is of at least a little significance.”

In other words you feel like your so far away from God because your faith is so weak, and you feel like at least the music connects you to where you know you should be.

“At this point I begin hearing voices: “You just need to get saved” (any number of concerned readers’ - in the past and, after this post, probably in the not so distance future). “That’s the convicting power of the holy spirit” (my father). “I’m not the only one, though, right?” (my own).”

I don’t understand your question. You’re not the only one to what?

“For a long time, I asked this question haltingly, feebly, a little defensively, shamefully almost. The sum of what I believe and don’t and can’t”

Can’t. What is keeping you from having a relationship with the Lord?

“puts me beyond the pale of anything like the “simple faith believing” that’s so often interpreted by fans and artists of gospel music (and evangelicals more generally) to mean “don’t ask, don’t tell, keep your mouth shut and your head down, young man; just toe the line.” This kind of interpretation only worked for me so long as I internalized the self-denial embedded in it”

Thats what the gospel of Jesus Christ is. Deny yourself and live for Him. This is the foundation of being a christian. I am saying this in the most loving way honestly. I think you need to take a look at your surroundings, what you feed into your mind and your heart. Certainly the enviroment in which you work in can’t be good even for a strong christian. Do you want to go to heaven? Do you want to go to hell? Seriously. It’s that simple. Where will you spend eternity? Who rules over you? Do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and everything that He did or don’t you?

” and for a long time I did. And then I didn’t (the old way stopped working),”

Maybe the old way wasn’t the right way. But just because your old way didn’t work, doesn’t mean that God has changed or is no longer there. Jesus said I am the WAY, the truth and the life, no man can come unto the Father but by Me.

” which meant a lengthy period of exile from just about everything I had known and much of what I loved: family and family traditions, some friends, the familiarity of fitting in, of knowing “my place” without thinking about or working at it. But spiritual ex-patriotism has this benefit: you learn to rebuild bridges to the parts of the past that are worth reconnecting to, to grieve but ultimately begin to let go of what’s lost or unsalvageable. In my own experience, this has been my real salvation: a genuine process of regeneration rooted in the necessity of coming to my own authentic terms with questions of (un)belief and what it means to live justly, love mercy, walk humbly. ”

Are you turning gay?

On ambiguity again
Just want to say that maybe this is one of the few times in your blog where the “real” person is allowed to be seen. Couldn’t agree with you more. Faith/belief is not a simple formula.

More on ambiguity
I loved reading your thoughts on “ambiguity”. I, too, have been a lifelong Baptist, but find myself increasingly unable to reconcile some (not all, but some) of my deepest beliefs with what I have seen as a tremendous move to the political right by my denomination. Okay, I guess it’s always been there, but maybe I’ve just noticed it more in the last few years. This questioning of whether or not I belong in a Baptist church, however, has not caused me to question or doubt the basis and root of my faith. Rather, in an odd sort of way, it has caused me to grow stronger, and more determined to walk closer with the One who saved my soul. I guess I’ve just been rebelling against what I see as the unquestioning and lockstep approach so many of my fellow Baptists have toward their denominational leanings. That said, I fully agree with the Baptist belief in salvation by grace through faith and eternal security, and I fully intend to spend eternity in heaven with Jesus. As to your thoughts of SG music, I agree. I’m a listener to all types of music (as I gather you are) and I find much in Southern Gospel to recommend it to (1) the already saved, (2) the unsaved but seeking, and (3) the merely curious. Thank you for your thoughts. I always enjoy reading them.

On … well, I’m not really sure
Wow, it is great to finally come across a web site that I can go to and laugh at. Seems I had a co-worker invite me to a singing the other night and I went. Being a musician, I knew the group because I got the invite to play on their last recording. They seemed to be very genuine in their actions. But after reading your blogs and other SO CALLED CHRISTIANS, I can see that we aren’t different in any shape, form or fashion. You people just put the title of CHRISTIAN to your name. I can go directly to the bible and quote you scriptures that tell people not to use their tongues to put their fellow brothers in Christ down but to uplift them. And if I remember right, doesn’t it talk about the tongue being a two edged sword? So, as a NON CHRISTIAN, I have to ask you and the other SO CALLED CHRISTIANS out there, WHY? Why should I become a CHRISTIAN when in reality, I am one. I’m no different than you people. I can critisize with the best of them. I am e-mailing all my friends to let them know about this web-site just for their enjoyment. It’s not often you get to see other SO CALLED CHRISTIANS putting each other down and then calling it reviewing and blogging.

On flaming ambiguity
Your latest writings finally convince me you are a Flaming.

More on finding avfl
I love your site! To me it is the testicles of Southern Gospel Print ( he he). I have sang most of my 35 years and have actively sang Bass in various quartets for years. I tell you this not to gloat but to further by saying I have seen both spectrums of the ball, part-time and full-time and there both an emotionally challenging roller coaster, BUT over the last year I have seen soo many groups hang it up ! With the pioneers of this industry passing on and NEW groups seeming to be going more progressive sound where does the standard traditional SG male quartet stand to succeed? … I do want to thank you in advance for reading this “redneck’s brain drewl”!

On strange things
About two weeks before AB’s untimely death I drove over to Tyler, Texas to hear him with Kirk Talley and Shane Dunlap (The Trio). During the product pitch Anthony already had his “Best of” DVD for sale and during his pitch made the statement “Gaither did a “Best Of” DVD of Vestal and she died. He did one for George Younce and he died. Then he did one for Jake and he died. You might want to pick one of these up tonight, if you want it autographed.” I guess it’s just one of those things that makes you go “Hmmm.”

On “Much Too High”
“Much Too High a Price” changed my life. Thank you for reminding us all of this milestone in Christian music. Oh that we could somehow return to this level of musicality and spirituality.

Your assessment of the dangers of doing tributes is accurate. You inevitably run into criticisms for the tributes you did not do. We decided to make an exception for Anthony for two reasons:

1. In the case of Anthony, we had a 20 minute performance slot set aside for him during the Thursday showcase. We felt like simply replacing him with another artist in the wake of his untimely death was a little calloused. It seemed most appropriate to utilize that 20 minute slot as a tribute presentation to Anthony. In all of the other cases you mentioned, there was not a scheduled performance slot left completely vacant by their death. I feel this is an important distinction.
2. In many of the examples you listed, we had the opportunity to give those people their flowers while they were alive. You might recall Rex Nelon’s retirement presentation in 1997, the Speer Family retirement in 1998, Glen Payne’s call-in performance of “I Won’t Have to Cross Jordan Alone” in 1999 (maybe the most moving moment in NQC history,) and George Younce’s performance of “Supper Time” in 2003. With Anthony, we never had that opportunity.

Steinway played no role in this decision. Our sponsorship for NQC pianos this year is actually with Bosendorfer and Samick. We are simply allowing Steinway to display a grand in the South Wing A Lobby in memory of Anthony. We are supplying this space in the lobby for free.

I hope this explains our decision.

I guess it is true what they say: No good deed goes unpunished.

That’s a good point, about giving flowers while they were alive. I do wonder about it as a reliable strategy or policy, since it means that only the most tragic or sudden deaths will ever rise to memorializable (yes, I made that up) status. Another way to say this: poignant though all those moments were, it’s not at all clear that people consider them the equivalent of a memorial. The other problem with this approach is that there may some cases when “flowers while they’re living” simply won’t be enough or, as in the case of, say, Bill Gaither (as reader RF pointed out to me), flowers at NQC while they’re living won’t be possible unless something major changes. Still, a good point. Also note that I stand corrected about the sponsorship thing (and I probably stand somewhat justly accused by that no-good-deed line … can I blame Republicans for that too?).

Next up, a reader who was seriously not happy with my post about BFA and their life-changing vitamins:

It’s unfortunate you criticize things you don’t thoroughly research first before you so eloquently speak. But anything for a hit on your site right? Maybe you should look into it. It might “change your life” as well.

A few minutes later, same writer, another message. “One more thing,” its subject header read:

I also thought you might have to have a list of just a FEW other artists and people in this industry who take Vision For Life so you could slam [them] all at once … [The writer then gives a list of a ten or so groups or industry types at this point but I have deleted the list because as far as I can tell none of them officially associated themselves with the product, as BFA does] … and as I said those are just a few so hey get [them] all at once. They may not have it on their website, but they all sure push it on the road so maybe you should revise your post. I wouldn’t typically have even emailed you about anything you say because in reality, who are you? What have you done to gain the credibility in this industry you think you have? Why don’t you get out … on the road … and pay your dues? THEN you can speak in an educated manner. It was just the blatant attack on … BFA. It was the comment to the effect of “Well what does that leave for Jesus to do if this changes your life?” Come on buddy. You write amazingly well so I know you’re educated enough to compare apples with apples, so how about doing that? Keep up what you’re doing on the site. You have your own opinions and you are allowed to write them. Just don’t make comments about artists that allude to some sort of blasphemous thing that you take out of proportion. That’s crossing the line. You will have to answer for things that that one day anyways so really who am I to say? Thanks for your time.

Apples? Huh? I thought we were talking about vitamins. Seriously, though:
“change your life” (which was BFA’s phrase, not mine) is pretty strong to toss off casually. Obviously I don’t think BFA is suggesting that vitamins = divine redemption. In fact, that they are vastly different things was (and is) the point: using the hyped language and overstatement of a door-to-door salesmen is fine if you’re Ron Popiel peddling hair paint or Sally Struthers hawking mailorder diplomas, but using the excited sales-pitch language of MLM (it’ll change your life! even though you probably more accurately mean it can have a positive impact on some aspect of your daily life … which is NOT the same thing) … I say, using that kind of talk when your day job involves matters of the soul (that is, potentially real life changes), you run the risk of impugning your own message, of cheapening it a little (just as it’s a little silly and wearying to claim that only “real” people “on the road” are legitimate commentators … come to think of it though, traveling all the time and not getting getting a chance to exercise and eat properly is actually a pretty good reason to take something like vitamin supplements, but I’m not sure that’s a reason for fans to want to buy them). Really, though, let’s be honest: fair or not, there’s a certain image out there of the kind of people who get involved in MLM … the kooky guy who thinks this box of detergent will change your life, or the strange woman who drives a pink car and gets a little too excited about exfoliators and mascara. It’s difficult to take these people seriously. Their outsized enthusiasm for something so pedestrian suggests a tendency to self-delusion, a naivete or gullability that’s being exploited, or else greed so craven that they’ll feign faith in a product mainly for the money. BFA doesn’t have to fit any of these descriptions to be lumped in with the kooks and crazy ladies. And these perceptions don’t have to have anything to do with the product itself. But this context is real and considering all this, it’s probably a good idea to think (more) carefully about the way you frame your association with a MLM product, no matter how strongly you believe in its effectiveness and value.

Finally, smart reader SM in radio wrote with this response to my GMA comments about the Crabbs:

I went searching for the website, and a Google search of Clear Cool led me to this web page. First thing I noticed - it’s from Australia and it doesn’t have Martin Roth’s name on it (unless, of course, he’s using a nom de plume). Second, has anybody mentioned anything about this trip to Morocco? I highly admit to crawling under the proverbial rock the past several months, but even still, no CrabbNews on it that I can remember. Third, it seems like this story confirms everything that’s been rumored, gossiped and innuendoed about the Crabbs for the past several months. They’re trying to break out of the mold, Kathy Crabb’s the business-minded mastermind behind the operation, and even still building off the songwriting of Gerald; nothing new, but mildly intriguing to finally see in print form. Fourth, they’re taking this whole “involve the family/showcase the kids thing” to the next level with this new CrabbKids album they mention at the end of the story, though, in all honesty, there is a niche market in the industry for good children’s music that can be very lucrative if you get noticed by the right people.

Finally, though, it appears to give some evidence to something I’ve suspected for a long time - the beginnings of a traveling Crabb roadshow. The second-to-last paragraph mentions the new spring tour “that will give fans the option of buying tickets for a solo date or a pair of weekend shows. ‘Friday nights are always going to be Southern nights, which includes the McCraes, the Mike Bowling Group and the Crabb Family,’ says Kelly […] ‘Saturday night is the more contemporary night where it’s Julian Drive, the Crabb Family, the Katinas and NewSong.’” The concept is nothing really new for sg, because Gaither has brought in the Katinas and other non-sg talent to perform for the Homecoming vids for quite awhile now. In the context of the Crabbs, though, this new roadshow may have some significance. Potentially, the Crabbs could be trying to bridge the gap between the “progressive southern gospel”/”mild contemporary Christian”/”mainstream praise and worship” audience that may exist somewhere in the Christian music genre. More likely, though, they could be testing the waters to see where their biggest audience and opportunities lie - southern, contemporary, or P & W. I just wonder how long they can stay in limbo without making a move to one side of the fence or the other. As a great philosopher once said, “He who sits on the fence generally finds pain in the” ..well, you know.

The plan seems to be to make a fortune out of fence riding and a new existential category for professional musicians out of limbo. It may just work. Listening to the Crabbs sing “Shout to the Lord” at the Guild concert (or hearing “Friend of God” on Blur the Lines), you can get a sense of what permanent stylistic limbo might sound like, and it ain’t all bad.

On “God Bless America”
My trio wanted to sing this song. I couldn’t convince them not to, so I got the hymnal out and READ them the lyrics. That’s all it took!

On discoveries
I’ve been reading your blog since last fall, and Easter seems as good an occasion as any to tell you — as a personal note, really — what a delightful discovery your site was, and how satisfying it has been ever since. My first reaction was, “About time!” Yours is the only Southern gospel site I know with truly intelligent commentary on the artists, history and current scene. I gave up on Singing News a long time ago — it’s hardly more than a fanzine.

Your thoughtful, tolerant discussion of Kirk Talley’s homosexuality was my first real cue how different your whole attitude is. And it was such a relief to find a kindred spirit out there. I grew hearing my father’s Statesmen Quartet, Blackwood Brothers et.al. records (with some Mahalia in there, too), and those groups are my measure for contemporary gospel — especially the Statesmen, who as far as I’m concerned are to Southern gospel what the original Allman Brothers were to Southern rock. My father died 4 years ago, and his old Statesmen albums are one of the treasures of my life.

On rolls (drums and otherwise)
“Johnny Minick Reaching Lives In Irag” …. but the big question is (drum roll please) … is there a Cracker Barrel restaurant in the area???

On pet peeves
A huge pet peeve of mine is incorrect grammar or someone trying to sound professional and thus sounding ridiculous. If you’re a webmaster there are a few basics you should know about writing. If something is mistyped or mis-written it makes your client look ignorant. Here are two examples that I found that bother me:

#1 on www.theimperials.com
“Ian and Megan Owens are proud to announce that they will soon be parents of their first child. Ian and Megan’s first child is expected around the first of September. Ian and Megan as well as all The Imperials appreciate your prayers during this time!” IMO it should have been written as follows: Ian and Megan Owens are proud to announce that they are expecting their first child around the first of September. The Owens’ appreciate your prayers during this time. For crying out loud….do we really need “Ian and Megan” at the beginning of every sentence? I’m sure that in itself is breaking a huge English rule. We already know after the first sentence that this is their first child. Does that need to be repeated in sentence #2? And why on earth do the Imperials need your prayers because Megan is pregnant? I’m sure Megan needs the prayers more than the Imperials do.

#2 on http://www.singingnews.com/news/sg_wire/index.html
“Most of the times, these packages include bibles and recordings.” This could be a simple typo, but nonetheless it looks ignorant. “Most of the times”????

On not so good Fridays
Do you find it interesting that both Daywind and New Day are open for business on Good Friday? I mean……the stock market is closed…..as is every Christian label, distributor, church, etc., in this town. I find it odd that the employees are forced to take New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day as a vacation, but these so called Christian companies can’t observe such an important day for believers.

On spelling it “Irag”
I tell ya, you just kwack me up. Do you really expect the “National News Magazine” that thinks “Superfan’s granddaughter dies” is news is really gonna use spell check? C’mon, are you a newbie?

On the Lesters
I totally, totally agree with you. I am a native of the St. Louis Metro East and have followed the Lesters’ career all my life. They are some of the kindest, most down-to-earth people I have ever met. You are so right about their store on South 39th Street. It is a credit to them to have maintained their home there. I remember several times going to get concert tickets and walking over to the house and being made to feel like family. They are a rare breed and a breath of fresh air in the music field of sometimes over-hyped “superstars”. I wish them success for many years to come.

On refreshment
I heard a short segment of the show as I was driving and thought the Booth Brothers rendition of “I’m Wearing New Shoes” was a refreshing break from Jessy Dixon’s hog-the-mic and scream.

On hard working guys
Say all you want.. but if my goal were to get SG radio to play my song.. I would hire RICK HENDRIX in a heart beat.

More on hymnody
In 1633 William Pynne (English Puritan) questioned, “Whence hath the Church so many Organs and Musical Instruments? To what purpose, I pray you is that terrible blowing of the Belloes (bellows), expressing rather the crakes of thunder, than the sweetness of voyce?”

Prynne also stated, “If they want music let them sing psalms like rational beings, and not too many of these. But now a-dayes Musicke is grown to such and so great a licentiousness that even at the ministration of the the holy sacrament all kind of Wanton and lewde trifling songs with piping of organs, have their place and course.”

He continued, “AS for Divine Service and common prayer, it is so chaunted and misused and mangled of our costly hired, curious, and nice Musitians (not to instruct the the audience withall, nor to stir up men’s mindes to devotion, but with whorish harmony to tickle their eares) that it may justly seem not to be noyse made of men, but rather a bleating of brutish beasts…” Taken from: Tracing the Roots of Southern Gospel Singers by B. F. McLemore. 1988

On that Irag thing again
Who is the data entry person? If spell check isn’t an option, how about hiring a proof reader?

On bad dates
Not actually the first time the SN hasn’t got the Suwannee River Jubilee dates to align with the DE’s page. You’d think they could get it right at least once.

On things Ernie might say to himself?
“Hi, I’m forty, but want you to think I am the Dick Clark of sg. Once George is gone, I will then have to work for a living. The coattails will no longer be available.” - EH

More on EHSSQ
I enjoyed your piece on Signature Sound Quartet. … I do think they have one very fine group, but the dancing and hair styles are a bit hard for an old fogey like me to accept. I really see nothing wrong in what they do, but for me personally, it is a bit over the top. But they can forevermore sing a song.

And some more on EHSSQ
SSQ diminishes their influence by trying for the “boy look” that you described so well in your recent comments. Ernie himself looks ridiculous with the poofed-up hair and snapping his fingers, etc. when he has got to be approaching 35-40 years old. He is a man, and a man trying to look like a teeny-bopper always flops and looks silly to the people in the age group he is trying to appeal to. It’s a real shame that SSQ resorts to so much 19-year-old antics, too, because they are second only to GVB in regards to talent. If they will lose the silly stage frollicking, SSQ will heighten their measure of respect within the industry, and most importantly, likely influence lost souls more than they are now.

And since we’re on a roll
“The challenge for the boy band, of course, is that boys will be boys … until they grow up. And then there’s something not only difficult but also unseemly about overgrown kids trying to play the boy-band image that once came to them naturally.”

The best description of SSQ that I have seen.

Everybody … all together now …
Thanks for your comment about SSQ. I thought it was just me that thought it was a little weird seeing these guys act like they were reliving their high school years. At one of their appearances I was at their table browsing and I heard them talking between them about “chunky highlights”. These guys need to take GVB as a role model for their look and stage presence. You can still be edgy without reverting to “boy band” theatrics. Besides SSQ shouldn’t have to rely on it - they’re pretty good. Ernie needs to also put the tan in a can down. He’s beginning to look orange.

On competitive stupidity
Until just today I coulda matched this one….. The Mid American Gospel Music Assocation (MAGMA) had on their website the dates for their fall convention wrong. It wasn’t last year’s convention dates, it wasn’t this year’s convention dates, it wasn’t the weekend before or the weekend after….any of these coulda happened to anyone…. Nope it was just two dates pulled outta the middle of the week in the month of October 2005. Special kinda stupid. And I hate to admit this, 5 of those board members are personal friends. Special kinda stupid, oh but I repeat myself.

On EHSSQ and the bigger picture
The problem with Ernie Haase is basically twofold:

1. He has always had a penchant for the immature, i.e., the ‘Elvis-lookalike thing’ from his days with the Cathedrals. I remember hearing complaints about it back in those days, even from some insiders among the Cathedrals themselves!

2. As a tenor he is very good but certainly not the best…not even among the best the Cathedrals ever had. Funderburke, Talley, Mack Taunton, and certainly Bobby Clark, were all much better. Having a ’signature song,’ i.e., ‘Oh What A Savior,’ that you sing every night for over 10 years does not automatically make one a star, particularly since that song was the signature song for Rosie Rozell, the famed tenor of the Statesmen! ‘Oh What A Savior’ will always be Rosie’s song, not Ernie’s. At the height of Rosie’s career, he could sing circles around Haase, even on a bad night. Listen to the original Statesmen recording of the song with Rosie Rozell, and you will see what I mean.

Signature Sound Quartet is certainly good enough to be top tier, but the mere fact that they are lighting a fire right now is not automatic entry into that elite grouping. I think the verdict is still out on them. On the other hand, Scott and Roger seem to be the ones who truly matured on the road with Payne and Younce, taking the hard lessons of road life to heart. Although Haase may be Younce’s son-in-law, Younce’s and Payne’s true musical sons are definitely Roger Bennett and Scott Fowler. Legacy Five is the group that is taking its cues from the success-map of the Cathedrals in that they are laying a solid fan base among some of the larger churches in a slow, consistent fashion that will stand them in good stead many years from now. Rather than going for the ‘flash in the pan’ gimmickry, they are mature, consistent, persistent, steady, and faithful to their identity. If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Legacy Five remaining a top tier group for 30+ years rather than Signature Sound. That goes for the Crabbs as well–another flash in the pan gimmick that will probably create a lot of noise and excitement for 10 years at the most, but then fades as quickly as it rises.

Look at the groups that are still around and doing well after 30+ years, and you will get a good idea of what it takes–The Florida Boys, Palmetto State, Dixie Echoes, Dixie Melody Boys, The Melody Boys. the Hoppers, etc. Even the Inspirations are rich with many good lessons to be learned. Theirs is a mountain sound, to be sure, but look at their enormous following after 40 years! These particular groups made their mark by a steady consistency, a commitment to staying close to their fan base, a mature knowledge of their identity and uniqueness, and a dedication to sticking with it through the grueling years of ‘working the trenches’ and slowly building a following by fostering trust.

On those odd Triumphity bios
That’s hilarious!!! It’s amazes me how adults’ actions are so similar to the 4 year olds I teach! Keep up the great work!

On Kim Hopper solo
Being a big Kim Hopper fan I bought her cd and was underwhelmed to say the least. Her voice certainly doesn’t shine on any of the songs the way I thought they would. I’m not sure if its Kim’s fault or the producer for not talking her into picking different songs.

More Kim Hopper
Thanks for turning me on to the cross rhythms site. I love well-written album reviews. as for Kim’s voice change. I think it’s just a matter of age (i.e. Sheri Easter/Janet Paschal [seriously, listen to Sheri Easter on their first few albums]). I think her range has lowered which is tough for a soprano. Listen to “I’m Going on with My Jesus” from the Greene’s album, “When He Sees e.” I love her voice on that album. It’s probably the best studio album she did with the Greenes. She wails on “I’m Goin on.” I think she’s pushed her voice to keep the highs. A few years ago she admitted to never having vocal training and that probably has a lot to do with it. I don’t like her version of “While I Wait” from her album. I think it was pitched in her upper range purposefully to show her range. It sounds forced. The main thing I don’t like about this particular cut is the way she sings the word “celebrate” the last few go-arounds is too sg for this pop-country ditty. The LordSong version of the song is perfect. There are a lot of stronger cuts on her disc than “While I Wait.” There are a couple written by Cindy Morgan (who is a favorite of mine) that are awesome. Cut #2 is worth buying the disc. I like her better in her lower range on the album. There are a couple of great slower songs like “Peace” and “Springtime’s Coming.” But much of it wouldn’t appeal to “Shoutin’ Time” fans.

On soloists
Your comments regarding Kim Hopper are right on the mark. I don’t recall her from her days with the Greene’s, but the shrillness she has now makes the entire Hopper group almost “unlistenable” as far as I’m concerned. That’s too bad, because I don’t think there are any nicer people out there than Claude and Connie. Someone ought to tell her the great singers didn’t sing at maximum volume all the time. Unfortunately, it’s an affliction that many of today’s SG singers have. David Phelps, Guy Penrod, Karen Peck and several other tenors and sopranos come to mind.

On that Heirline thing
If Ken Kirksey is telling the truth about SN being oblivious to Mr. Hendrix “working” Heirline’s “You’ll Never Run Out Of The Blood”, I wonder what we can expect to see on the June chart regarding this song? I’ll go ahead and make a prediction: Instead of the standard 3 or 4 notch drop, “You’ll Never Run Out…” will go down 10+ spots on the charts, just so SN can show Hendrix, the evil radio DJs, and fans in the know that SN is in control. At that point, who would be “working” the charts? Answer: Singing News Magazine

On the SN chart
Wow. When did the SN chart ever have any integrity. Won’t have until they chart ALL artists and songs even crossover artists as is done in other genres.

On Heirline
One DJ noted that Heirline “can’t sing, can’t find the tune/key?” Sure, they don’t fall into the category of a polished quartet; but to say they are out of tune is completely unfounded. I’ve heard them compared to the McKamey’s. The McKamey’s don’t have pretty voices, but they’re not out of tune for the most part. If you don’t care for the down-home style, don’t play it. But don’t be so ignorant as to say it’s not in tune. I don’t have Heirline’s track record in front of me, but this is not their first chart song. Heirline has had several top 40 songs over the past 7-8 years. It’s not like they appeared out of nowhere like the Haire Family (who have since mysteriously disappeared) a few years back with their #3 song (also promoted and written by Hendrix). Hendrix is not the only promoter who consistently asks for chart positions. Crossroad’s Jim Stover and Susan Whisnant are equally as guilty though more mild in their approach. A radio promoter asking for a chart position is no different than an artist or record company blatantly asking for SN fan award votes–which they do every year with each vocal part of the group clearly marked with each current group member all throughout the SN. Not to mention Daywind’s usual suggestions attached to the ballot. What’s the difference? I do agree with Kenneth’s current stance that the fault does belong to the DJ’s who don’t report based on airplay. I have no doubt that Rick Hendrix has swooned many DJ’s to play the Heirline song (also written by Hendrix). But that only shows he is an effective promoter (with questionable tactics) and that there are a bunch of buyable DJ’s.

On radio and charting
Preach on brother!! I manage three full time FM sg radio stations. Soon to be 4. I can’t get anyone at SN to give me the time of day. It’s not that I want to be a “charting” station. But when I see some of the stations that are it just amazes me. We met and talked to Danny Jones last year and asked him to do a story on the growth of internet radio. He basically blew us off.

On Hendrix again
I am not for sure about this, but didn’t Rick Hendrix write this song for Heirline. He also wrote a song about three years ago for the Haire Family called “Sheltered” that went to number 3 on the singing news charts. There seems to be a pattern between both of these accounts. The problem is that the groups end up looking bad, when in fact they do not always know what he is up to. Mr. Hendrix seems to have an answer for everything
On DW’s PW to US from UK from a PD, MD, DJ
As a PD, MD, DJ and Christian bookstore owner I wanted to comment on the P&W at New Day/Daywind. First New Day’s sales people for the most part are P&W/CCM’ers. Second, as for my store, if it does not have the words Crabb, Gaither or Isaacs on the CD, it won’t sell. The way commissions are set up at New Day, it takes 9 indy titles (Gaither or Isaacs) sold to equal 1 Daywind CD. This P&W stuff is licensed to New Day, so the sales people are able to make more on each piece of product. By the way, great web site, the anti-christ… err Rick Hendrix was the one to give me the link. Keep up the great work.

On hypocrites, perhaps
Here’s a thought.. If the SN holds onto its chart for 6 weeks to drum up an ad purchase from the #1 artist, will they go after Heirline to buy an ad for the May edition? And, if they do, doesn’t that make the SN a tad hypocritical?

On bribery
There IS bribery going on every day in radio–especially in the rural small to medium markets–if we want to call it that. At least 50%, and probably far more, of those stations are set up as 501(c)3 non-profits. They remain on the air by “the prayers and support of our listeners…”, so to speak. Sister Suzie, who faithfully sends in her $92 a month as a member of the “Heavenly 92FM Angels Club”, can call in as many times in a day as she wishes and request any songs she pleases (or the same song several times in a day) or request that a song NOT be played. To be sure, many non-supporters probably also make requests, but common sense would indicate that requested airplay largely follows the money. That’s why Mo Templeton’s view that chart action reflect listener requests, even if true, is a total joke.

It’s tough for a small station to work in new releases in airplay when they’re bombarded daily with repetitive requests for the McKameys’ “God on the Mountain” and the Easters’ “Roses Will Bloom Again”, not to mention the lackluster material released by the middling local talent. In this environment, slick radio promotion can propel a song to the forefront of a playlist that is sorely lacking for new material. However, when airplay is essentially auctioned off to a select few contributors (which both squeezes out most new material and effectively skews perceived requests), why not play fast and loose with the charting? A root problem is this: when your station is not playing for Arbitron ratings (and a large percentage of small-market sg stations are not) and not seeking out advertisers who are interested in seeking large audiences, where is the motivation for a large, quality playlist? When your “ministry” of selling a few timeslots to preachers and talk shows and relying on contributors and underwriters for income, the entire premise of relevant airplay of quality music to reach the masses is not nearly as strong. We would surmise that the premise of fudging the chart sheets is simply done out of embarrassment for airplay that woefully lacks new, quality material (an accurate chart of which would be just as counterproductive as what we have today). The promotional antics of Hendrix and others simply make the fudging easier.

Some more on EHSSQ
After reading your most recent post about EHSSQ, you have some very interesting takes on things. Of course it is perception really. My perception is quite different. Let me comment on some things you wrote. I think this 3 paragraph entry was your way of saying SOMETHING about SSQ, not one of your more well thought out pieces. LOL…Were you tired of picking about the Rick Hendrix stuff and SN?…I figure you knew you would get REACTIONs out of writing about SSQ.

Again, I think alot of this post was to fill a void and try to stir the pot. Those guys ARE classy and CAN set a house on fire no matter the hair or suits or ties. Their choice in clothing is refreshing to say the least! I am a fan of fashion. I loved the new suits at NQC. They are bold but not overly trendy. The style is not immature or juvenile. If that were the case they would be wearing your jeans, flip-flops, ruffled and untucked shirts and hiking boots on stage. That sounds like the style preference of a family group that owns any SGM website they can register the name of. LOL I think that EHSSQ should just keep doing what they hear God telling them to do in their hearts and they cant go wrong.

Just thought you would like to hear another angle on it all. Or not. LOL

On credit and deans
Just read your mini-dissertation on the streamlining of the SG blogosphere…and noticed your comment about John Crenshaw being the “dean” of SG historians…and while I gladly concede and assent to the fact that he is probably the foremost authority of SG history and certainly, recordings of it, in this country…the “dean” of it would be our mutual good friend, Dean Adkins, who I know has been a contributor to your blog! Dean has close to 5,000 SG recordings, and he is a man that both Crenshaw and I consult on a regular basis about SG historical matters … in fact, I consider Dean second only to Crenshaw as an authority on SG history! Just wanted to put in a deserving plug for a deserving person!

On radio promoters
So the SN is ranting about a promoter who is…well…promoting? Wow, must have been a slow news day. The intended victim of Kirksey’s missive was surely Hendrix, but here’s what happens when you don’t think things through: were I a DJ/station manager/owner, I would quickly take offense being told that I haven’t the intellect to spot marketing tactics, that I am easily susceptible to the ether of propaganda, and that I can’t be trusted. There’s nothing like a good dose of alienation that will have a spouse looking around for another lover. Also, Kirksey’s soap box has become a witness stand. By threatening Hendrix & every sg-charting station, he has simultaneously revealed/admitted to the inherent problems with his chart model.

You commented that promoters have long been wining and dining radio stations for years. Hendrix’ practices are no different. Something tells me there is more to the story than we are being told. There are usually two truths in situations like these: the one they want you to know, and the one they don’t.

On my loudmouth
Before you pipe off the mouth you need to make sure you know what you’re talking about. The title to the song [”You’ll Never Run Out of Blood”] causes me to praise the sweet name of Jesus. This song has a powerful message. Ernie Dawson is one of the good guys in gospel music. You need to take your Howard Stern approach and attack something else. I have personally seen … ballot stuffing a male vocalist of the year. Singing News is aware and they promote the ones who play their game. All of this is many DJ’s desk in America.

On charts
I’ve rolled this whole thing over in my mind and still go back to the SN chart which is simply ludicrous. Why on earth would you have 20 stations in Southern markets decides what chart position the various “single” cuts are in when you and I both know there is no such thing as a “single” in music anymore anyway? Regardless of the answer, the system is flawed, unreliable, and only a figment of the imagination of SN and certain fans who buy into it. Ridiculous.

Anyway, since we only have Solid Gospel affiliates in my area (1 FM and 1 AM), they must not have followed the Hendrix call. I have not heard the song [”You’ll Never Run Out of Blood”] once. I finally went to their website and downloaded the snippet of it last night and was appalled. They can’t sing nor are they attractive. The fact that this song can become [No. X*] on their chart should convince SN that something is wrong. My guess is that any number of Greater Vision or, heck, anyone’s songs would sell much larger amounts even if you had to buy a whole $18 CD to get it. It is time for retail sales to determine chart position in SG. Like the clerk who wrote in other comments on another blog, there is no promotion of sg anywhere, so only us fanatics know what’s going on. Since that is the case, it’s easy for something like this to happen. And that means Palmetto State’s recent #1. And the Perrys recent chart success is simply fable. That’s sad because both of those groups deserve better.

Finally, this whole fiasco tends to make sg look a little foolish. I don’t blame Rick Hendrix for doing what he does. In my business, I get this kind of promotion all the time. … That’s the way it goes. But, then again, we go with quality regardless of who gives us what. It appears many in the industry are not concerned with quality but recognition (whatever recognition they might get from doing what Rick said in his “personal” note). How can this form of music we all love be taken seriously by even the mainstream Christian community when things like this happen? Sometimes, I just shake my head.

On the Anchormen, a dissent
Went to hear the Anchormen last night. Going to disagree with your
recent post about them. They sounded pretty good to me. Bryan was as always, quite enjoyable. Very pleasant young man that looks like he loves what he does. Bryan and Will did the sales pitch last night…what a RIOT!!

Will has greatly improved in the year since I last saw them. He managed the mic very well and was right on. He didn’t hunt the mic questioning pitch or anything. He boldly went where no man dare go. His bottom end has improved nicely. I see Will uses an ear monitor so maybe this corrected what you had seen prior.

Michael Hayes did a great job. I like him as a tenor. Not the highest around but certainly well capable of anything he needed to do. As much as I get tired of “Oh What a Savior,” he did it well. I was overly impressed that Michael preached a bit, at the invitation and 4 people said they made a decision for Christ!

What a great guy Jason seems to be. Of course in public, they would be stupid to give off any other impression, if they knew what was good for them. It certainly seemed genuine, we chatted about the industry and things a bit. As lead, he did a good job. His mic level could have been a little better, but nothing serious.

Chad just gives off an enjoyable aura. He has an extremely good personality and is a pleasure to chat visit with. He does a great job at baritone as well. You just cant get around his exuberance. He puts out like he is the happiest man alive. He closed with “Runnin my Way Back Home” or whatever the title is, it eludes me now. All in all, I gave them 5 stars all around for the evening. That’s is, that’s all…from this part of the island.

On last chances
Here’s what I don’t get…I haven’t seen any mention of this in your exhaustive blog about the SN/Hendrix deal, but has anyone brought up the “last chance” letter that Kirksey sent to Hendrix and all the SN charting stations last summer? The three-page edict was dated July 19, 2004, and went into great detail about how SN would no longer put up with Hendrix’s antics. Sounds like he’s getting another “last chance” for the umpteenth time. I have a copy of last summer’s letter. Let me know if you would like me to fax it to you.

On the top 10 songs
I am very disappointed in the top 10 song nominees. “Long as I Got King Jesus” by Brian Free & Assurance is a joke to Southern Gospel. Well done, mind you, but it does NOT belong in our genre. And of course, I am ALWAYS disappointed whenever a song by the Crabbs shows up either on the chart or on the list of most popular tunes.

In addition, I am disappointed in tunes by the McKameys and Mark Bishop showing up on that list. I know that both have their fans, but I can think of LOTS of other songs that are much better.

I know I am probably being a bit paranoid, but it seems to me that increasingly the songs that show up on the Singing News charts and ‘fan lists’ leave much to be desired. The better songs are strangely absent from both radio play and the charts. I have heard some songs by the Florida Boys, for example, that are better than 99% of anything out there, but they are nowhere to be found on a chart or on the “fan favorites.” I simply have a hard time swallowing it.

In spite of my disagreements with you in the past concerning the Singing News, THIS is a matter on which I think we both are in 100% agreement.

On Kirk Talley
I was recently introduced to your website and I like to viewpoint and comments. I’ll be checking back often, keep up the good work! I wanted to let you know that I voted for Kirk Talley on the Singing News…Why? Because I noticed that they don’t list or recognize him anymore. I’ve listened to Kirk and own almost every CD that he has produced his entire career. I believe that God has used him for so many years and he’s not given up on him. As a Christian, it embarrasses me to see organizations/people turn their back and judge others for their mistakes. The Bible says that we are all sinners but only by Gods grace can we be saved! I believe that Kirk has rededicated his life to God and he has a specific message/testimony to bring to so many people. God’s not finished with Kirk and neither should fellow Christians, Southern Gospel Music and Christian radio stations.

I’d like to ask for your support to help keep Kirk’s ministry alive so GOD can use him to his fullest potential.

On writing and stuff
I always thought Kris Kristofferson could mold a lyric very well. Even Jimmy Webb. But, on occasion, both would use the wrong tense and wrong pronoun. I’ve never understood that for a lot of reasons. Many times, I think they did it for effect. always thought Kristofferson was pandering to his country audience or at least the audience that he was trying to sell songs to when he did that.

I don’t for a minute think the sg writers are doing that. Sad to say, but I don’t think they know any better. Kind of goes along with KK’s series on leaving your brain at the church door. How do sg artists and songwriters expect to woo the intelligent with this? I don’t think they even care. Look at Mosie Lister’s songbook. Find a grammatical error. You might, but it would be rare. Quality? That’s another thing that scares me. Mosie is past 80. Bill Gaither is nearly 70. ho’s going to fill those shoes? Becky Isaacs? Sobering at 3 AM, isn’t it?

On grammar
THANK YOU!!!! As an English teacher and a composer, it drives me absolutely nuts when I hear grammar used incorrectly in the lyrics of a song. It’s nice to know that there are others who do feel the same way. Great article.

On “God Bless America”
Amen to the ubiquitous GBA - give me “Take Me Out To the Ball Game”. The time it takes (especially in Yankee Stadium) is enough for a pitcher to lose his edge too. BTW, vocal gymnastics on the National Anthem should be charged as treason.

On calming down about artistic stuff
Hey puddin’….it’s just music. It’s supposed to soothe the calm, make the feet dance, make the mouth sing…..it ain’t no place for edumacation…… Chill my good brother!

On GBA again
It’s an elegant desire for God to bless us and our country, what’s jingoistic about that? And not “because” we have mountains, prairies, but rather bless America FROM the mountains to the prairies to the oceans to every far corner, the whole thing.

On charting and being a dj
The post on the “no-backboned dj” made me cringe, mainly because I admit to fulfilling some of the criteria. I started working at the afore-mentioned station straight out of high school doing, of all things, afternoon drive. But I had a wee-bit of the over-inflated head, the over-estimated “star power,” the over-calculated clout with the artists, and the under-paid salary. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t, depending mainly on the artist. I fully admit to being male and wanting to help Lauren Talley, Misty Freeman, the McRaes, the Lesters (because of Tricia), etc, in hopes of being recognized and winning their affection. Alas, it didn’t work.

It took several years to break out of the funk I called “rookie-ness.” As I did, though, my airshifts got better (because I realized the fleecing of the employees that was the mindset of the station ownership-paying them chump change because “it’s a ministry;” realizing there was no future for me at the station, I started doing radio for the love of radio and the personal desire to be better than anyone else on the air), and my list of “playable songs” shrunk for the better. Gone were the days of trying to work in requests to make the vocal minority happy; if the song stunk, it didn’t get played. Gone also were the days of playing junky current singles because “pm drive is suppose to be top 40.” If it was slow and not a “power ballad,” it didn’t get played.

I probably went over the edge a time or fifty, but I didn’t really care (see above for the reasons–i.e. chump change and a disregard for the “ministry mindset”). As a collegiate in his early 20s, I had a strong desire to attract people like me (18-35s), and it wasn’t going to be done with poorly produced music, the weepy-whiny funeral-ish songs, and everything else you’ve already noted is wrong with sg radio (which makes a kid wonder, why do promoters even release some of this stuff to radio in the first place? Are they only concerned about getting an artist’s dollar or are they actually wanting to do a good job of promoting the artist?). So, while I turned into a typical progressive radio junky (all Crabb Family, LordSong, Martins, Talleys, McRaes, Crossway, GVB, etc., all the time), to me, it was the only stuff out there worthy to be played regularly during the drive time shift, and the only shot I had at attracting my desired target. Never found out whether it worked or not.

“I noticed your comments on the DBQ at the church in your area, and realized that the problem with them is that they’ll die before they embrace anything unique or different. The trouble with the Doves and others in the genre is that everyone is afraid to go against the traditional for fear of making someone at the top (NQC, Jerry Kirksey, or whoever) mad.”

Perhaps, they are not afraid to go against the traditional. Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, they like the traditional? Why can’t people just get that not everyone is gonna be the Crabbs, Gold City, or SSQ? They’ll die before they embrace anything unique or different? That’s their problem? C’mon… As for me, I’ll take tradition any day.

On replying to replies
I was just reading Chris Unthank’s blog www.gospelmusings.com. I feel the need to defend myself about my nomination for the Imperials fan site as worst site. First of all, am I the only one that gets a serious craving for pumpkin pie and cranberry sauce after looking at their site? It’s hideously ugly. I love the Imperials and I love their music. So this is no attack on them as a individuals. But, I think they made a huge mistake when they signed with SS. A group with the heritage and talent of the Imperials deserves so much better. I don’t think anyone in the industry or otherwise is going to take them seriously as long as Amy, Chris, and Scott are riding their coattails. About the lack of updates, I check the Imperials site often and certainly do not see updates on a regular basis. Why is it that SGN posted a press release about the bass singer and his wife expecting a baby three days ago [as of the time the letter was submitted] and it’s still not on their official site? The first thing people are going to do after reading a press release is go to that artists’ official site for more info. It’s not there.

On the Crabbs
I noticed a recent letter that stated something like “the Crabbs are a joke in Owensboro.” That made my blood boil! I have been an avid Crabb follower for years, so I am going to defend them, but they have certainly merited defense! I began following the Crabbs when they first started, when they were “screaming” as the letter states. For the one child who asked to leave, there are hundreds, even thousands, who look up to the Crabb Family as role models and as a result choose to serve God. During my “Crabb Days,” I have noticed something:

Why is it that when someone steps out to follow God with an anointing and a sincerity such as the Crabbs, they are criticized for every move they make. Is it jealousy or just the price they have to pay for faithfulness? If they are a joke in Owensboro, it is news to me. Crabb Family Owensboro loves you! Keep up the good work! We’re proud to be home to CrabbFest! Don’t ever leave!

On my problems
What is your problem? If you have nothing but bad things to say about gospel music, then get out of it all together. Quit listening to it and quit being so negative about everything in it! Every time I go to your website there is nothing but bad things about groups and this industry. Why are you doing this? Until you have made it in this industry, you have no reason to talk about it! Another point that I would like to make is that you are a COWARD!!! If you have a problem with people in this industry then be MAN enough to talk to them face to face instead of hiding behind your website. The word of God clearly says in Matthew 7 verse 1: “Judge not, that you be not judged. For what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.” And that is in RED! So until you have walked where they walk and your life is blameless, then don’t judge. I am not judging you in calling you a coward, everyone can pretty much see that you are one!

As a Christian I am saddened to see what people live like in the industry, But this is not the way to help this industry grow or become spiritually better. This only hurts SOUTHERN GOSPEL and it turns people off to this music that you and I both love and this is one reason why its declining! People like you do nothing but bad for this industry.

I challenge you to examine your own life, and until you do that and you find no blame, then don’t put everyone else down whose is trying to get over their past and their sin. Everyone in the industry has their faults just like YOU DO! Just because they sing for a living and have been called to ministry full time, doesn’t mean that they are blameless and their temptations are gone!

In closing, all that I am trying to find out is why? Did someone do something to you that has made you bitter? Could you not cut it in the full time ministry? What is it? I will not look at your website anymore because it does nothing but harm. Furthermore, I will do my best to tell people to boycott your website, until changes are made and good things are said about Southern Gospel. I look forward to your response.

On Rulapaugh and politics
This is the perfect example of what harm to folks who may be seeking God can be done. I went out of my way recently to encourage some young people to go hear PSQ at a local church. A couple of them were skeptical because of the “ultra conservative” reputation that sg has. The boys came through with a good but short program that was pleasing to everyone. Now, John has to go and do this. I won’t mention it, but it just goes to show you that the unlearned should keep their mouths shut.

After fully admitting that at 14 he really didn’t know the ramifications of his actions: “At his age, 14 if I’m not mistaken, I certainly did not understand the ultimate and lasting consequences of my actions and how they would affect the lives of others.” But, this kid should be put to death (the one who killed the bus driver). Then he goes on about the ten commandments case before the Supremes and uses his illogical reasoning to say the following: “Fortunately I was raised in a home where such (apparently far fetched) ideas as Thou Shalt Not Kill were taught and well understood beginning at very young age. I say “far fetched” because of the case currently pending before the same court. I am anxiously, if not nervously, awaiting their decision. I fear that the consequences of their latest decision bore fruit long before any of us would have hoped or expected.”

Huh? What am I missing here? Most folks, if not all, are taught not to kill. It just might be the most common denominator in homes across America. Even non-Christian, non-religious homes teach that. Even if they happen to be from broken homes and there is only one parent, I find it hard to believe that anyone teaches their kids that killing is OK! John has assumed because the Ten Commandments are not on every wall in our country that this kid killed his bus driver. No matter that he might have been taught the right thing at home or that he just went bad for any number of reasons, the reason the kid killed his bus driver was the Supreme Court decision on juvenile executions and a lack of seeing the Ten Commandments in print everywhere as if most of us (the vast majority) didn’t know what they are anyway. I wonder what part of Thou Shalt Not Kill (in the good King James Version language) applies to executions? Oh, I forgot. It doesn’t (this is not to say I don’t agree with the death penalty generally-I do think that a civilized society takes into consideration certain situations that might require such a sentence, but to make a blanket statement like Rulapaugh did took a lot of guts or ignorance-you be the judge [no pun intended])

It’s gotta be the Kool-Aid. I had heard that PSQ was losing dates over this. I asked a member of the group and really didn’t get an answer (he didn’t know), but I can guarantee one thing. If this kind of thing got out to some of our more reasonable folks-the ones who don’t happen to believe what he does or maybe do-to stay away from sg in general and PSQ specifically. You know, the thought probably never entered his mind. He left his brain at the door.

On me and the SN
Wow, you read a lot more into this column than I did! I think his whole point was just to show there was a time and place to speak his mind about his beliefs and that particular point in time wasn’t one of them, especially vis-à-vis his employer. And I don’t think he was implying anything racist on the part of Les Beasley at all — just pragmatism about getting his bus fixed without spending a fortune. I also don’t think he implied that his support for the civil rights movement was an immature flight of folly. He’s just saying he didn’t handle his “outrage” in a very mature manner in that context. You must really be spoiling for a fight with the SN folks! Seems like you’re looking (hoping?) for peccadilloes in everything they do. That’s my take on it, anyway. Later!

On Three Bridges
You are so right about them! Lotsa fluff in the bios. I’m sure if I look hard enough I’ll find where one of ‘em sung backup with Elvis

On Rulapaugh and politics
What struck me about this column was his comment that the judges had based their ruling on world opinion and not the Constitution. I will get my copy out and look at it again, but I really don’t recall that the Constitution actually prescribes a death penalty anywhere. The Bill of Rights prohibits “cruel and unusual” punishment, and lack of due process, and justices would have to interpret what “cruel and unusual” would mean in today’s context, since the constitution doesn’t define it.

Although the author says, “let’s don’t go there” I think the underlying theme is exactly what he names, the “legislating from the bench” complaint that conservatives rail against. Other examples are abortion being permitted, with restrictions, because of a right to privacy, or desegregation of public accommodations, because of the equal protection clause, etc. But courts also might interpret the second amendment to allow everyone to carry handguns or NRA types to own Uzis…because of the need for a “well-regulated militia.” The legislating can swing conservative on some issues just as easily as it can swing liberal…and sometimes from the same group of justices.

On SGN, the world’s biggest
Man, talk about hype. This almost borders on lying! I am almost embarrassed for them. It is ridiculous!

On sponsors needed for SGN’s fan festival
This is really something. I think www.averyfineline.com should be a sponsor of such an eloquent event. It is almost too comical to laugh. First they say: “We have several sponsorship plans available, some even include being a sponsor of both the Awards Gala and our huge 4 day 4 night Fan Festival held in July.” Then they say: “We only have room for one or two sponsors so be sure to contact me as soon as possible for full details.” Going on: “There will be heavy advertising done for this great event and becoming an official sponsor is a great opportunity to help you increase awareness of yourself in the Gospel Music arena.” INCREASE AWARENESS? is SG a disease? Talk about bad choice of wording. My question is, where will the “heavy advertising” take place? Who will read the advertisements? WHO KNOWS? Finally, the event is SO BIG, SO GRAND.. it’s next month and the event’s location is still in the finalizing stages~ lol Help all involved.

On me and T
I am hooked on your website…I have to keep checking in every day! Keep up the great work! I can’t believe this guy [Tony Gore]. I was reviewing the website…I mean, I quote: “This bag is just TOOOOO CUTE! Great bag, great colors, great for spring! You can’t BEAT this price!!!” What kind of guy actually talks like this? I find it repulsive, but then I can’t stand him in person, either. I saw him in concert a few years ago. He proceeded to tell the audience that he went to Meijer’s for a “weiner”, and no word of a lie, he stretched out the word as he said it - “Weeeenerrrr”. Really weeeeirrrrrrd…he grosses me out.

On BFA and live projects
You are right about a not making a live album, but a live album happening. [Our group] did one about 5 years ago and are thinking hard about doing another complete with DVD probably in early 2006 in Florida. (All the snow birds from the north are there then and the venue is packed). The first one we did was far too perfected. We fixed every note that did not fall dead on time and pitch wise and it took the feel right out of the project. Next time around the approach will be far different. Love your blog, keep up the good work.

On live stuff
To fairly rate SGM live albums through the years, you have to go back to at least the 60s. Most long-time fans familiar with recordings through the years rate the best ones as the Statesmen On Stage (their first live album-1960) and the Imperials (Gospel is Alive and Well-1969) . Those two albums also get a lot of votes as best SGM albums ever. Oak Ridge Boys (Performance - early 70s), Stamps (Live at Murray State University - mid-70s) are also terrific but the Stamps’ one would have been better as one record rather than two. Singing Americans’ first live album (with Strickland and English) is first-rate. Speers did a good double record one called In Concert in the early 1970s. You mentioned the Kingsmen who made some great ones but tended to get weaker as time went on. The Cathedral ones you cited are both super. It’s possible the earlier ones sound fresher and more exciting because they were “live” and not overdubbed and fine-tuned in the studio.

On BFA live
I like your commentary about Brian Free and Assurance’s latest recording, ‘Live in Brooklyn.’ You hit the nail on the head. It is just too smooth and ‘perfect’ for a live recording. With so much popular music these days relying on the well-scripted choreography and ‘lip-sync,’ even during live performances, one of the things that is appealing about Southern Gospel music is its authenticity…what you see is what you get, warts and all. Live performances are not meant to be perfect. Why? Because NOBODY is perfect! Even old Glen and George were known to wonder slightly off key every now and then. The studio can do wonders, even for a poor-to-mediocre singer. The truly outstanding singers, like Glen Payne, George Younce, Gene McDonald, Glen Allred, and Gerald Wolfe, are excellent, but excellent does not mean ‘perfect.’ Live performances in Southern Gospel involve so much more than the talent on the stage. The pathos, the interaction between the fans and the group, the spontaneity, are all part of the mix. This is why to this day some of the Kingsmen’s old live recordings are still very moving to me.

I will add something to your commentary, however, that will surely bring protests from some quarters–I think that the cut ‘Long as I Got King Jesus’ is absolutely atrocious as a radio single! Yes, it is well done. But it is NOT ‘our kind of music.’ This cut sounds like something that should have been released to an African-American radio audience rather than to a Southern Gospel audience. To me, it goes a bit too far in the direction of ‘black gospel.’ There is nothing wrong with it, it’s just not my cup of tea. When I hear it played on the radio, I simply change stations. I had much rather hear Brian & company sing ‘For God So Loved.’ I understand the group had to do some things that would appeal to the audience up there in urban New York City. But i think it was a mistake to release that to the Southern Gospel audience. We can do much better…and BF&A can do much better.

On Jerry Kirksey
I think you missed the point when you commented about Jerry Kirksey’s story about the bus during the Civil Rights Movement. I didn’t read his remarks as saying he regretted his stance on rights back then, but rather, that Les Beasley taught him a valuable lesson that anyone in the music business need to learn in a big hurry IF THEY WANT TO SUCCEED! And that is, STAY OUT OF POLITICS! At least when it comes to public pronouncements, stay out of it. You will alienate at least some in your fan base. This is a lesson that, regrettably, some of the big names in the music business turned a deaf ear to, much to their peril. One can only think of the misguided and plain STUPID remarks of the Dixie Chicks! Musicians are not experts on politics. I do not pay my money to hear them spout their political bias. I go to hear them SING (or play). If they get too grandiose in their assumption that their views are so all-important that they simply MUST lecture the audience about it, I will get up and leave. Simple as that. Les Beasley was RIGHT. And Jerry apparently learned his lesson.

On hair and clothes
Taking Danny Jones, Jerry Kirksey, and Roy Pauley to task over their comments about dress and hair style is a very misguided course of action! THEY HEARD FROM THE FANS ABOUT THESE ISSUES! Year before last, at the National Quartet Convention, SN and the NQC heard so many complaints FROM THE FANS about these issues that they HAD to be addressed! This DID NOT arise from the ‘insiders’ or the groups. In fact, immediately following the NQC that year, Jerry, Danny, and company POSTED two full pages of excerpts from some highly irate fans concerning dresses too short, hair styles that looked too ‘funky’ for SG, and the like. The FANS spoke loud and clear. To make this an industry-driven concern is a big mistake. If we listen to the FANS, you will hear these negative comments about dresses so short you can see butt cheek up on stage, and hair styles that look like they belong more in a punk rock dope orgy than on a Gospel music stage! Think about it!

On Kirksey and Rulapaugh
Yes, Brutha Jerry’s latest entry left me scratching my head (casual observers might wonder if HE got terribly sick on last November’s Singing at Sea since that was the date of most recent entry prior to Monday). As many stories as I’m sure Brutha Jerry could tell, I mystified as to why he would first seek to get on the wrong side of civil rights issue. Beats me. However, he misses the boat (no pun intended).

First, Kirksey associates his liberalism with being “Mr. Democrat” in the early 60’s. As an avid student of political history, I can firmly assert that Democrats in the South in early 60’s and before were NOT liberal. It was the party of George Wallace, Ross Barnett, Marvin Griffin, Strom Thurmond, and Lester “Ax handle” Maddox, and that southern wing was filled with KKK. Those cats would make GWB look like a flaming lefty. It wasn’t until the McGovern campaign that the South finally launched its exodus of the Democratic party, the Dems turned left, and we got the ideological order that largely remains to this day. Thus, Kirksey’s effort to stereotype a 1962 southern “Mr. Democrat” as a liberal ring a little hollow.

I wonder why he would roll of the perceived “sin” of making nice with a good old U.S. of A. soldier, given today’s uber-patriotic sg world? I can just see Jeff Steele with his red, white, and blue suspenders raises his eyebrows over that as he writes yet another ditty that rails against everyone that is different from him. I suppose I am giving too much thought to a man’s (Kirksey’s) writing when clearly doesn’t think too much before hitting the send key.

Rulapaugh…well, what can I say? I have no idea why he would choose to weigh in (no pun intended) on the subject he chose. He case rings hollow, as you say. It is, however, interesting to see him deviate from the meat-and-potatoes sg soapbox issues (gays, abortion, school prayer,
ten commandments, et al).

On BFA Live
Found this review very enlightening. I share your concerns about the redefinition of “live.” I haven’t bought any “live” albums lately in the genres of music I follow, but I have a few older ones and they all share those endearing “not-quite-perfect” qualities that you mention when talking about the Greens. I thought you made a great observation when you said the energy between BFA and the crowd was so tight that none of it could escape to the rest of us. I’m a writer, not a musician, but I think that this is a problem with a lot of art I see today, and especially a lot of contemporary literature. Whatever it is that so captivates the writer fails to rise up off the page and enter my consciousness as a reader or listener, so that I can feel it too. And I think that may be what you are referring to about this so called “live” project that has been coiffed and wardrobed and polished so thoroughly that not even a teeny tiny hair is out of place. This is going to sound gruesome, but that’s what undertakers do.
On the Greats
Here goes. I just received my copy of the DVD recorded at NQC where they did a tribute to the greats. I was wondering if you attended that, since you were there. Anyway, just to show you how deprived we are of sg music even here in WV, I got my first listen of Triumphant’s “Terrible Time Down There.” For some reason, and I find this difficult to swallow being a Statesmen loyalist, I don’t remember them singing the song. I had heard that Integrity (there I go again) had recorded it, but hadn’t heard it. It was striking to say the least. I found it fascinating and brought forth some questions. I can’t imagine why the song didn’t go number one and I can’t imagine why their stage antics have gone unnoticed. Reminded me of SSQ so much I wondered why they hadn’t done it.

I noticed your comments on the DBQ at the church in your area, and realized that the problem with them is that they’ll die before they embrace anything unique or different. Of course, Integrity might die by being so bold as to bring out a 40+ year old song that’s not well received (and I don’t think it was). The trouble with the Doves and others in the genre is that everyone is afraid to go against the traditional for fear of making someone at the top (NQC, Jerry Kirksley, or whoever) mad. It is what has kept the Inspirations in business even though they are so second tier. Old age. I know at my age (I’m 56), I should be leaning toward that traditional music (and make no doubt about it, I love the old songs, but I thirst for the new songs and styles), and even though I do, I want this genre to survive and it’s not going to do that if we continue to do the same old stuff. I found the whole RTS program really invigorating in many ways. Even though the music was a tribute to the greats, you had Joyce Martin, Karen Harding, Reba Rambo, and LordSong up on the stage doing contemporary things with old songs. The thing that concerned me was that I didn’t hear a lot of response from the crowd. The crowd looked old and sat on their hands (except for the Rambo-Harding duet). And, once again, these were old songs.

I guess it just gave me a shot of reality tonight. Sg must evolve or die. There will always be a place for four part harmony. At least, I hope so. And I certainly hope there is a place for the old songs and the great hymns of the church. I also think we need some more groups like the Statesmen. SSQ has aspirations in that direction, but Ernie continues to push them toward old songs (I did notice that their Christmas album has some excellent new songs on it, though). Mercy’s Mark (who also had the wild hair like SSQ-maybe that was Garry’s idea) is doing the same thing. Maybe we need a new Lee Roy Abernathy?

On Dollywood in the fall
I just looked at the Dollywood sg schedule for the fall. Looks like sg every weekend, but only one group at a time, and a lot of those are second, third, and fourth tier groups (Angelina McKeithen? The Peasal Sisters? Jerry & Tammy Sullivan?). I’d say DW probably hit the point of diminishing returns on its mega-gospel weekends. You’re looking at a pretty small fan base with finite ability to make that trip. Also, there comes a point when Dollywood’s fall gospel festival starts to cannibalize the multi-group events at SDC at Branson during the same weekends. There’s probably some concurrent market strategy in play (I think SDC probably does it right: two long weekends–Fri.-Sun. & Wed.-Sat.–with two guest groups per night + the Cumberlands.) However, I still say sg (the way they package this year or in previous years) is very bankable and lucrative for these family values-oriented parks. (An aside: will Tony Gore be allowed to bring his flea market into Dollywood this year?)

On old stuff
Enjoyed your review of the Anchorman/Dove Brothers. I feel the same way about the Anchorman’s pianist. As for Dove Brothers, I rate them highly although they are doing nothing new. They are doing it well. Hester is great and Eric and Jerry have improved unbelievably since joining them. I don’t know if McCray or someone else should get credit for that. As for audience’s age, I’m 60 but am open to some newer forms of music (no rap, hip-hop or heavy metal). For example, I’ve been listening to the White Stripes and Jack White’s work with Loretta Lynn. One of the problems in trying new things with traditional music such as quartet southern gospel and some country is that it becomes a different form of music. Some country becomes pop or rock and southern quartet gospel becomes contemporary for want of a better word. It’s a very fine line to improve a type of music with new approaches but to not completely change the original so that it is no longer recognizable.

On the SN and (lack of) reporting
Just think about the amount of speculation and rumors that could be put to bed once and for all with an annual Q&A feature article with Clarke Beasley in SN. It could include questions about group lineup selection, Nashville vs. Louisville, future plans, board dynamics, and whole host of subjects, even if you avoided sensitive topics like finances and personality conflicts. Then again, that would be real journalism.

I often think that many of these sg principals must be buying into the end-times rhetoric a lot of pastors rail about. Perhaps they truly believe that the end is near, so there’s no need to worry about the genre’s viability in future generations. Just do all you can to enrich yourselves and your buddies, have a good time, and don’t worry about a tomorrow that’ll never come. Chilling, but possibly true.

On concerts and letters
I really enjoyed your review of the live concert on your site. I live in a SG deprived area and also some health issues prevent me from attending many concerts but I still enjoy reading about what is going on….Good job !!! I spent a couple of hours pouring over the new letters that you have posted. I was glad to find that other SG fans shared so many of my feelings about certain things. On the Inspirations a few others wrote in with the same question that is churning around in my mind about their having to buy a “larger” truck to take their “weekly” mail order shipments to the post office. As anyone that attends SG concerts knows the groups sell the majority of their products at their table after a concert. If the statement that the Inspirations made was accurate they would need an 18 wheeler to follow the bus on the road to carry enough product for their table. I’m sure that the truck driver would have on a matching suit though…..(I couldn’t resist that one)

On Dolly, MIA
I got the latest Singing News and noticed the Dixie Stampede advertisement inside. It seems awfully funny that it now doesn’t appear to say “Dolly Parton’s Dixie Stampede” and her picture is gone from the advertisement all together. Parton still owns the theater but did Singing News refuse to run the ad with the picture and name? Could this be due to the Valentine Kingdom Heirs and Dolly recording for gay marriage? All previous advertisements said “Dolly Parton’s Dixie Stampede” and included a photo of Parton.

On the SN
Your writing on Danny Jones and journalism hit the nail on the head, as you so often do. However, your friend KM misses the point by saying that we try to hold Jones to a secular journalistic standard which he doesn’t aspire to. Bullfeathers! Have you read a state Baptist newspaper lately, or any denominational paper, for that matter? (MO Word and Way, TX Baptist Standard, NC Biblical Recorder, et al.) These are the papers that churchgoers depend upon to report the religious news–free, faithful, and fair–that needs to get out. Do their editors “cozy up” to the convention officers and leaders and only pump sunshine and roses onto the pages? Except for a few shill PR rags out there (MBC Pathway), no. Baptist papers, from the Baptist Press on down to the states, FOUGHT for the right to get inside the executive committee meetings of the SBC and state conventions to report the goings-on. Can you imagine an SN editor angling to report from the inside of an NQC or SGMA meeting?

Denominational papers and magazines report the good stuff–to be sure–but they also tackle subjects such as declining attendance and tithing, sexual abuse scandals, bitter theological debates, lawsuits, etc. If a denominational paper questions a religious college president over declining enrollment, should they be ashamed of “tearing the man or woman down”? Certainly, the college president must’ve done many, many good and Christ-like deeds in his or her time. I could go on and on with examples of quality journalism measured on any scale, both secular and Christian.

It all boils down to what kind of respect you have for your readers. Where does your loyalty lie: with your readers or with the subjects and people you cover (and sell ads to)? Do you respect your readers as thoughtful and discerning of the news they digest? Are you tough enough to take a little negative feedback on controversial subjects? I think I would prefer your answers to the ones I would get from SN!

On another angle to star gazing
[KM] makes a long argument that won’t wash. If you are the self-proclaimed “Printed Voice of Southern Gospel” and expend a great amount of energy to get a lot of people to actually believe this, then what? You have to live up to that claim and represent the genre fully, completely and honestly. SN does neither one of the three. This has nothing to do with ministry which by nature is incorporated into the music.

On several things, including SN
There was lots of good reading today from you and your audience. As for the pair, I assume the church sign is referring to Eve and the Snake. Couldn’t be Adam and Eve because Eve was to blame for our downfall according to the many of the churches which put up those signs. Biblical defense of the Singing News policy on its editorial material by your reader was well done. I personally prefer the commercial defense. Singing News is not going to be tough (with honest reviews and stories) because it depends almost 100 per cent on artists, record companies, promoters and SGM affiliated businesses for their advertising. It is not going to criticize artists and record companies who give it songs to put on those CDs and videos you get for taking out an SN subscription. SN also puts out commercial recordings — Top 10 SN songs of the year or decade — and it needs record company co-operation. Its owner runs a travel organization which operates cruises which uses the artists the magazine loves. Of course, those artists know where their bread is buttered which is why they sell SN subscriptions and allow their songs to be used on freebies. Its owner is on the board of the National Quartet Convention which can also help to keep artists, booking agents and record companies onside with what SN wants to do. The SN folks are involved in the Southern Gospel Music Association. Everybody knows everybody and is buddy-buddy with a lot of folks.

Of course their fan awards tie into all of this. You have to subscribe to SN to get a vote for fan favorites so it helps groups to sell SN subscriptions to their fans. SN also controls the major chart in SGM but it is not based on sales but on play by certain radio stations which makes it meaningless except to the artists. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this (even if you and I don’t like it) because the SN has never pretended to be anything other than a magazine doing everything it can to promote what it considers to be Southern Gospel Music. If anyone wants hard news or unbiased reporting or a different definition of SGM than they should not read SN.

SN also knows its audience based on the letters published and the fan favorite voting for groups like the Inspirations. Some folks think the fan voting is rigged because there are no independent auditors. Some think SN publishes only letters that agree with its views. I am not one of those people. I believe SN caters to its audience and gives them what it wants. If a lot of folks were not voting for the Inspirations or were not writing letters of praise, then SN would be fools to alienate its audience.

And the SN folks are not fools. They are most successful in their limited area. Trying to expand their current base by publishing negative stories and reviews or by suggesting the quality of SGM their readers like is not good or expanding coverage to include artists aiming for the country field or contemporary Christian market would lose them more readers than they would gain.

On several things
Just a few comments:
1. Pair probably means Adam and Eve (not Steve :-)) and references original sin. At least my experience with these “signs” means they are trying to be cute and not place too much burden on your brain.
2. Product unfufillment - I think SR did a great job and she was spot on in her comments. I’ve found the best artist sites to order from are Legacy 5, Greater Vision, and, of course Gaither. GV always gets me stuff in three days. It never fails and I order via the web all the time. Gaither is usually quicker by a day for some reason. If I order something on Monday, it gets to me by Wednesday by USPS! That’s amazing. I tried Legacy Five last week when I ordered the “Remember the Greats” DVD. I ordered last Thursday and got it on Monday. Not bad, I’d say, so they get special mention. BTW, I called the one in to L5 because the item wasn’t listed on the webpage, so that might have sped things up a little. SSQ ranks just below them at four days. Others do worse. PSQ - a week is the usual time via the web, but still better than those examples SR cited. As for the retail guys, Amazon is the best but they have little selection. Beware of the Christian sites. … [ie] Juniper Square, … Music Christian is only marginally better at 7 days.
3. Star gazing - I’m sure you going to write off anything else I send to you, but I have first-hand experience in another field that may apply to sg also. I have for the last 10 years had a hobby. In 1995, I started covering NASCAR races for a forum on the old CompuServe on-line service called Racing Information Systems. It’s on the web now and totally separate from that old service. It gave me access to press areas and allowed me to do some very poor writing for the “goobers” out there. It’s fun. In the beginning, most of the “name” reporters ( and the “non-name” reporters) were like SN and SGN. Not a discouraging word was printed. Everything was beautiful and if it wasn’t, they just didn’t mention it. In the press box, I’d hear this and that and ask why didn’t you print that. The response was always that they were afraid they would lose access because NASCAR was a dictatorship. Something changed about six years ago. Some new blood came along (somewhat like you) and started questioning everything. Guys like my friends Monte Dutton and Ed Hinton started asking questions and pretty soon it had everyone doing it-and printing the not-so-pleasant answers (or more accurately, the not-so-pleasant non answers). Now, you can read these guys and they are getting into each issue in detail and NASCAR doesn’t like it one bit. In fact, a couple of them have been banished to the infield media center instead of the press box for events (where the food is horrible and the view is non-existent). Access is not as good as it was, but it’s still not bad. And the truth is being reported. Might we not be seeing the beginning of that in sg? Oh yeah. Those early reporters also thought they were doing God’s work. Bill France told them so :-).

One more thing. Tonight I was able to watch the new Gaither videos on DVD called Israel and Jerusalem. Watch out for the firestorm. Hardly a tint of sg is in either DVD. There’s a lot of CCM and a lot more of Jewish sounding selections. It’s not going to be popular with the faithful. I enjoyed it. The sound is wonderful, the scenery is beautiful and the music is good. I did notice that none of the real “homecoming friends” made the trip. You know, the old folks. There’s no Mary Tom or Rosa Speer. There’s no Florida Boys (in fact, the only two basses I saw were Mike Allen and Tim Duncan). Nowhere to be found are Squire Parsons, Calvin Newton, Eva Mae, or the Hayes Family. If he can sell this one, it will prove one thing. The sg crowd likes the Gaither show and the Gaither personalities. It should be interesting to see the sales figures. My suspicion is that the reason the T.D. Jakes tapes are usually on sale is that they didn’t sell. This one may also find a quick trip to the bargain bin. I think bill is slowly leaving sg. We’ll see. Thanks for wading through this.

On signs
I’ve heard preachers use this saying, but it went like this:
“It wasn’t the apple in the tree that cause all the problems, it was the pair on the ground.” I think we are both getting the same meaning out of that!

More on that sign
Simple - I think. Off course referring to the fall of man. The apple (fruit usually typified in the garden) wasn’t at fault - meaning that we can’t blame our sins on a temptation. But rather it was a pair(pear) - meaning people are responsible for the choices they make

On that sign and T’s Treasures
I can’t really help you out on the church sign you mentioned, but I thought I’d share with the best sign I ever saw. It was a few years back on one of those blinking-arrow commercial signs in front of a double-wide modular church building (I think the name was like “Solid Rock Fellowship” or something like that). It said, “TURN OR BURN!”. I laughed so hard. It was so simple, yet it clearly conveyed the message I’m sure the church wanted to get across. I used to drive that route about every month or so, and that church wasn’t there much longer. I can’t say if they moved to another, more permanent location or folded up.

Going back to the Tony Gore cyber-junk store, I saw recently where a disclaimer was added to the front page: “All items presented by Ts Treasure Chest is in no way affiliated with, associated, sponsored by, or represents Brighton, Burberry, Channel, Coach, Dooney & Bourke, Fendi, Flori, Gucci, Isabella Flore, JP Todd, Prada, Versace, Louis Vuitton or any other above mentioned name brands or their copyrighted products. We do not represent our products to be original nor do we represent that they are exact copies; therefore they do not violate any copyright laws. We ask potential customers to compare the price, quality, and style of the other brand names to ours. Any reference to a brand name is made only for comparison. All Items are available on first come, first serve basis only.” I guess someone got them the word about how to properly sell fakes.

On the Crabbs
Once again …great site! The Crabb Family has been around for many years in this neck of the woods. The Crabbfest is huge in Owensboro. Although it’s in our hometown, very few Owensboro residents attend the fest. Around here, The Crabb Family is a joke. Many remember them singing at the local county fair or local opryhouse. My niece, who was 4 years old at the time, and I saw them perform in an outdoor event with about 25 people in attendance about ten years ago. She looked at me and said “Why are they screaming?” She cried and wanted to go home. Granted, they’ve come a long way, and Jason Crabb is by far the ’show’ of the group. It’s amazing what good producers, stacks, promoters, and a huge dose of delusions of grandeur can accomplish.

On that sign about me
…and to think, after all the talk about settling for a free-will offering……you whore!!

On how mean I am
I have bitten my tongue off now for several weeks while you have made disparaging remarks about my friend, Gerald Wolfe and Greater Vision. Now, you do not like where they eat, what they write in their journals or anything that they do. Did they write the article to please you? I have always thought that a journal was for you to put the happenings of every day and, in my humble opinion, this is what they did. Have you made the effort to get to know them as people or do you consider them just artists? These are three of the finest men that I know. When I have needed prayer, they have dropped whatever they were doing and prayed for me and mine. When my mother passed away, they told me to use any music that they had ever recorded or ever hoped to record. I think that I have said enough.

On Pentecostalism
I read with great interest your take on the Crabbs musical evolution from their Pentecostal beginnings to a slick new “crossing over” style while going for a larger audience and how this might affect sogo music. You asked where does the Pentecostal/Charismatic style sogo performers fit in sogo music. It seems to me that there is less of what I call Pentecostal music today in sogo then the mid to late 60’s to the mid 70’s which I consider the ‘hey day’ of Pentecostal performers in sogo music….

I’m talking about The Goodmans, Hal Kennedy, The Rambos, Joel Hemphills and The Hemphills, The Hinsons, Jimmie Swaggart, Joy Dyson-McGuire-Gardner from The Downings, Andre Crouch and the Disciples, and later Lanny Wolfe Trio, Sharon Haygood, Janet Paschal, Geron Davis, just to name a few….many of these either came out of the United Pentecostal Church or The Pentecostal Church of God….I mean hardcore Pentecost!!-not that there’s anything wrong with that!!….In the early days they had a more country gospel shout your hair down sound that evolved into a “Greater is he that Is In Me” sound….

Their influence dominated gospel music during this time frame and pushed quite a few artists/quartets away from the mainstream or forced them to change their style more like The Kingsmen i.e. Statesmen/Blackwoods or forced them to leave gospel music altogether i.e. The Oak Ridge Boys/Thrasher Bros. …During this time period the purpose for singing changed, as you are well aware, for better or worse, from a “profession” to “ministry”…

During the late 70’s to mid 80’s Pentecostal music seemed to leave sogo…maybe due to the success of PTL and The Jimmie Swaggart TV show Pentecostal music moved away from sogo to early charismatic music?? Also, contemporary Christian music was on the rise during this time and Pentecostal artists, ever so slowly, started moving that direction, i.e. “More Then Wonderful”…Today, the Pentecostals have more of a “Black Gospel” or Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir sound to their music…..

Today there seems to be a few leftovers from this era as you mentioned - The MacKameys and The McGruders. It will be interesting to see if as you wrote the Crabbs evolution from being “too Pentecostal” to this crossover style is the new formula for success … I’ll be watching with great interest…keep writing….

On Dolly … oh my
“This month, Dolly Parton is not front and center in the advertisement. In fact, she’s now nowhere to be seen in the ad”

Well if Dolly was there, her front would certainly be centered!

On buses and eating
I’ve been on several quartet buses, and they’ve all had a front lounge, a back lounge, and bunks in the middle. If there are enough bunks, they sometimes turn a couple into a closet. The bunk area is usually closed off by doors at front and back of it so as to be dark when sleeping (particularly since they need to sleep sometimes during bright daylight). I’ve spent about 10 nights on quartet buses and I think the layout is very smart. Some turn the back lounge into a video game or video watching area, some to an office, and others to a large bedroom.

In regard to GV’s eating habits, just because they eat at those places doesn’t necessarily indicate their diet. Gerald was diagnosed as a diabetic (diet controlled) a couple of years ago and follows his diet very strictly - to the point where many think he’s too thin.

On health and reading and eating
Yo Avery, nice job getting the subject filled in the e-mail rely! Throw those interns an extra bone or two! Regarding the traveling groups’ choice of restaurants. yeah, I agree they are variety and health-challenged. Why do they favor chains so much? And chains that ladle the grease? They should watch Food Network’s “$40 a Day with Rachael Ray” and learn how to find the good places. Here in California, it’s absolutely laughable to subsist on a meat and potatoes diet. Where’s the sushi? Man, find a place that serves a great chili relleno!

Keep it going. Yours is the only sg website I check daily anymore. The attitude dished up by the Unthanks is like Cracker Barrel - ultimately unhealthy for the blood pressure.

A nominee for best website
Best website: http://www.janetpaschal.com/

Even while she is under chemo, she still keeps her site updated. I like the idea
there are short movies on her site, letting us in on her life off the road…and I
believe that is the greatest gift of an artist…to let the fans in on behind the
scenes.

On more bad websites
I’m astounded that no one has mentioned the Greenes. Their site is not only bad, but rarely ever updated.

On GV’s bad site
I completely agree that Greater Vision needs to improve their site–mainly the pictures section. The only thing they really need to change is to make an unbreakable rule: Drag from the corners ONLY when sizing the pictures. Dragging from the side or top distorts the picture. Greater Vision is one of my very favorite groups and I love to see pictures of them and their family! But please don’t distort them!

On my Crabbs concert review
Excellant a-mundo.. I have been.. and yes.. I wanna go.. again!

On free association
Maybe I’m just stupid, but I have one question about the GV article in SN. Each of them mention the internet. Gerald’s answering mail (he’s never answered me, and I’ve written him a few times), Rodney’s getting emails and doing business. How do they connect up? Cellular modems? Satellite dish on the bus that gives them both DirecTV and DirecWay internet? Just curious.

Another thing about their diet. Eating so late (it seems they eat both before and after their performances as well as breakfast and lunch), how do they stay so skinny (Jason looks like he’s getting a little chunky, though)? If I ate like that, I’d weigh 300 pounds. No wonder Tim Riley had to quit and developed diabetes. Wow!

Speaking of Gold City, with all the hype written about how First Class was selling so well, I picked up a copy along with Integriphant’s latest. I was disappointed to no end. Bill Lawrence is just abrasive and the new tenor doesn’t blend in like Jay Parrack did. The songs were not well arranged (unlike Walk the Talk last year), so I don’t see why it’s such a hit. Reputation? Triumphant’s album is super, if not traditional.

Thanks for the Crabb review. I attended their show in Beckley, WV a couple of months ago and I have similar thoughts. I also attended PSQ at a local church last nights. Good but not great. It may show where sg is going, I think.

On sg: steamier than Dallas
I recently stumbled across your site and started reading through your archives. Call me naïve, but I never realized that there was so much intrigue surrounding gospel music. Sort of makes Dallas in 1988 look boring. Anyway, I noticed that in most of the two-week post groupings that there was at least one mention of a member of the Hoppers. I travel daily on Highway 220 where their office is located. So, I’ve noticed the Corvettes and Hummers parked there when they are on the road. My mind started questioning whether this is a ministry or a business. I guess there is no simple, correct answer. People can have more than one income stream. I’ve seen them in concert several times over the last couple of years (with the Gaither bunch and without) and I have come to the conclusion that they at least appear to be sincere.

On signs
I saw this one over the weekend and thought of you.

“God wants full custody. Not just weekends.”

I knew you would love it.

On paths, almost crossed
Note: the writer attended the same Crabb concert I reviewed last week]
This was my 11th Crabb Family concert. I was impressed with the growth of their stage performance, I think. I’ve heard all those songs before. Some I’ve heard them do better. But I have not seen them so at ease without Gerald and Kathy before. I think the biggest thrill for me was watching Jason, whom I know pretty well, as Adam and Aaron ‘took over’. When they led the group, when they took off on one of their solos, sermons, etc. The big brother just relaxed, it’s not all on his back anymore, and I’m sure that relieves alot of Mike Bowling’s burden too….enough that he doesn’t have to travel with them full time anymore and is able to help The Bowlings out during their time of need. Having been a fan since the early, early prehistoric days, I’m sad to see them grow up…but man oh man what they’ve grown into. Sound? A live concert is never what the album is, that’s not what you go for. You go for the performance, for the sincerity, for the laughs, for the tangible….we were not short changed. And I liked the praise band, looked like the crabbers did too….did you see them filing in during the second song and filling the doorways and the stage edges? I did. The Pattersons coulda stayed home…but from what I understand, they raised the most money toward sponsoring the concert….so they had to let ‘em sing. ha. I wish I coulda met you in person….I look forward to your articles. c’ya

On how I need to pray more
I was reading what you had to say about, well everyone in Gospel Music. I wanted to remind you that the very ones that you are trashing and belittling are the ones that are out on the front lines of the battle. There are people that are dying everyday with out JESUS, and we (Gospel Music Industry) are reaching out and telling the world about HIM through music. What are you doing? I wonder just how people would take it if you were slamming soldiers that are overseas fighting for our nation, even if some of them weren’t the greatest marksmen. Well what you are doing is the same thing! I don’t know where you stand with your salvation, but I wanted to remind you of some scripture. I Chronicles 16:23-25 says ‘Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.’ This may be something that you should consider before ridiculing others in the ministry. We aren’t singing secular music; we are presenting the greatest music of all, GOD’s music. Choose it or not choose it, that choice is yours, but stop trashing what we do. I am praying that you develop a relationship with GOD and find what HE has called you to do.

On babies
What is up with all these older SG artists having babies? Jeff and Sheri Easter are going to have one, Kim and Dean just had one … who’s next Bill and Gloria? On Jeff and Sheri’s website it says that their baby is a surprise to them … don’t believe I would have said that.

On being wrong
You wrote: And second, how sad that he and I (have to) feel this way. How sad that living within a long day’s drive of Nashville, the “epicenter” of sg, we might as well be seventeenth-century Americans settling the first rugged outposts of the British colonies in New England for all the connection to or value we have represent for the vital center of sg.

Uhhh. Better think again. Yes, there are studios on the outskirts of Nashville. Yes, there are artists (ministers of song) who live on the outskirts of Nashville. Nashville does not have SG concerts. It is one of the hardest places in the world to book concerts. Most of the people in Nashville have never heard of SG. It is a true center of CCM music. Not sure if it is Boone or Asheville but the center of SG lies somewhere between North Carolina and North Central Georgia.

On being overworked
Although he (Clarke) has been “shuffled” around in positions at NQC he will still remain in control. (full time position) Which requires numerous hours of work. ( I would think so). Now, onto his new position he has accepted with the State of Kentucky. (Which is described in the link provided) This, also, is a full time position. Which will also require specific work hours set by the State of Kentucky. As I was thinking, I have worked two full time jobs at the same time (prior to being married and having a family–when I had no life, lol) This can take alot out of a person. Mentally and physically. Let me go ahead and get to the meat of the matter. When he gets home for the office (Convention and Trade Show business) will he go straight into working on his NQC business. How much time does overseeing the NQC take? AND, will he be doing NQC business in the State of Kentucky’s office?

On being longwinded
Just a few comments while they’re still fresh in my mind. I was at first shocked that Farrar and Cumbee left the NQC advisory board. It appears that Russ, who was lauded by everyone as the legal guru of sg music just a few months ago, has fallen from favor in the industry. Why, I don’t know. I know you’ve commented on his problems with Ernie Haase, but it is curious to me that a man can fall so far so fast. That is, unless it’s all a part of the theory you present in your article today.

I see the adding of Wolfe and Fowler as another example of “taking control.” The NQC people are very paranoid and it all comes down to money. The NQC is a money-making event and they are doing everything they can to keep the cash cow going. Using the old theory, “you’re either for us or against us,” the first target was Bill Gaither (who never really threatened the NQC except in popularity, which bothered them a lot, I guess) and now their extreme paranoia has led them to shore up the conservative votes on the advisory board. I can hear it now. They see all the things going on - the Crabb Family making noises that they plan to move into other genres as well as sg, the continuing popularity of Gaither and the outpouring of rage when it was reported that their style and dress would not allow them to be on stage (something of which I’ve never gotten the complete accurate story told to me), and the move of many sg artists to explore new and different kinds of music. “We’ve got to keep everybody in line, boys,” is probably the saying most heard during the discussions.

In an earlier entry you mentioned your friend’s note to you about the confusion on why sg artists and the industry stay in the same horrid business cycle and don’t try to market better and offer a better product to people so the industry can grow. This all relates to the same conclusion. The “powers that be” in sg want it to stay small and regional for several reasons. First of all, guys like Danny Jones and Jerry Kirksley like it because they know everyone by name and that they are “good old boys,” who they can understand. Keeping things like they are means Danny can mooch at all the concerts because he is the Singing News. Expand this industry to the left coast means old Danny can’t be the kingpin anymore. They want to keep it in the Southeast, especially North Carolina and Kentucky (maybe Alabama and South Carolina) so that everyone is close and the true formula doesn’t get bastardized by those other parts of the country. I don’t know Gerald Wolfe or Scott Fowler, but reading their email list and some of their comments tells me that they are true believers of this credo. Imagine if sg caught on in the Western states and even (shudder) California. Why, some of them might not have voted for Bush! Can you imagine that? I think you see where I am going here. To sum this up, I just think they are ridding themselves of their perceived heathern and protecting themselves from what they consider the great Satan–”Gaitherizing” the NQC. I may be wrong, but I’d bet that seeing Alicia Williamson, Don Francisco, the Katinas, all the artists on that whole Bishop Jakes two-part Gaither video, and David Phelps scares them to death. What scares them even more is that those DVD’s and albums have sold more than what their traditional artists could ever hope to sell. It scares them so much, they think the solution is to bully those artists who have bought into the sg “formula” (you and your friend outlined it pretty well). The only defense these people have is to say that Gaither is all about the money and is not really a ministry because he doesn’t preach and he doesn’t take political stands (and BTW, what is it with folks today who think you have to take a certain political stand to be a “true believer?”). Fear, buddy. That’s all it is and they are reacting just like scared people do.

Just want to comment on your review of the “Remembering the Greats” DVD. First of all, I agree with 99% of it, though I did enjoy it. I agree that the highlights included Libbi Stuffle’s performance along with the quartet that backed her up (big grin here). Putting Mark Trammel, Gerald Wolfe and husband Tracy behind her was genius. The acapella singing was superb. I also liked Wolfe’s reading of “Champion of Love,” (along with the stacked vocals). For a traditional sg group, the Florida Boys are into a youth movement and the group sounds good. I am convinced that Josh Garner is a very talented man. I also liked Joyce Martin’s take on the Goodman’s theme song and the Perrys’ stab at “I Was There When It Happened.” I also agree with you that Loren Harris is THE reason for the Perrys’ rise to prominence. To disagree with you a bit, I thought Triumphant’s read of the old Lee Roy Abernathy song was a highlight. The stage antics reminded me of something Hovie would have endorsed had he been 30 years old in 2004, and I’ve always been impressed with their singing. Abernathy was a character, apparently. He wrote, “I Found Jesus in Mexico,” and “Terrible Time Down There,” and talk about non-conventional songs. Wow. … Mercy’s Mark is wonderful. They’ll go far. Garry Jones, IMHO, is a genius.

I hated what the program did to the Rambos. LordSong wasn’t well suited to the song they did, but the Crabbs did justice to “Homesick.” The marching out of Karen Harding to sing with Reba was high crime. The Rambos wouldn’t have recognized that. I noticed the crowd was less than enthusiastic, even though the canned applause was evident. The Stamps need a new tenor and bass. To be frank, Ed Enoch and Ed Hill can no longer carry a group like they could in the 70’s. It’s time to make some changes, boys. Ed Enoch can still sing, and Hill can hold his own, but the blend isn’t there. I also think the Statesmen got the short end of the stick on this video. There were much better examples of the Statesmen style than what was done. Did I mention that I liked “Terrible?”

Sorry to be so long winded. You’re doing some great stuff these days. Thought-provoking, hard-hitting stuff and you are to be commended for that. I’d volunteer for your “intern” position, but I just don’t have the time right now, though I’d love to do it. Keep on keeping on. I love it.

Just to segue back to my political comments above. WV voting for Bush must have had its effect. I logged onto the Crabb site to vote in their poll and looked at the schedules posted there. Our state has long been neglected by sg groups. Guess what? The Crabbs are going to be within 40 miles of me four times in the next six months including tomorrow night. I’m heading over to the concert and I’ll be sure to take earplugs (it’s a real small venue). Added to the PSQ concert last week and GV two weeks ago, I may be broke before this is all over.

On clarifying the Greats
I just wanted to clarify on the comments of the person who was questioning why there wasn’t any artist on the showcase except Daywind artists. This was a Daywind Records Showcase. Most record companies have a time set aside during the week of NQC for their showcase to feature their artists. Last year the Daywind showcase was the Greater Vision Quartets Live. I really don’t think that the person who made these comments understand that this was a record company showcase.

Also, The Stamps Quartet was on the RTG showcase and they are not a signed Daywind group. Just to explain the money comment….Daywind does not receive any of the money that people paid to attend this showcase. Again, this showcase where Daywind came up with the concept and put it together to feature our artists.

On terrible songs
I’ve read all the comments on “Terrible Time Down There.” The huge thing that bothers me about the song is it’s a fun song about h - e - double hockeysticks. How is the non-Christian supposed to take the reality of hell seriously if the Integriumphants are doing their stage antics that come off to me as mocking the thought that there is a hell. Heck.

On The Freemans and DW
I’m sure you’ve heard about it by now, but in case you haven’t, The Freemans have returned back to Daywind after a hiatus of a few years. Their new Greatest Hits CD (2004) is on Daywind, but their previous 2 projects (Closer and Highway) were indy releases. I believe “A Way With Words” (1999) was their last original CD with Daywind before leaving.

On SGN having it
I know as of 3:30pm EST, there is nothing on Brian Free on the SN website, but as of 2:24pm EST, SGN has got something on it!

On Daywind’s shrewdness
Was just reading your post about the Daywind project in tribute to legendary groups. You said it best when you said that some of the Daywind artists could have been out sung by other label’s talent. Daywind in it’s shrewdness has really been a big self promoter with it’s projects.

On the NQC, last to know
It amazing when you consider that the Grand Ole Gospel Reunion is breaking new acts, strange as that sounds. Both the Booth Brothers and Dove Brothers made their first big impact at GOGR based on what I’ve read.

On the site, for better and worse
I have several observations to make about your site and your comments.

First, I think you have a wonderful site, and I like the basic idea behind it. It meets a definite need, and I think you do a commendable job in addressing issues that are not presently being addressed anywhere else.

Second, having said that, I will have to say that I disagree with you much of the time and find myself becoming quite irritated at some of your suggestions and assumptions. In no way does this cause me to stop visiting your site. On the contrary, I take your opinions seriously…including those of the ones who write to you.

Third, you halfway redeemed yourself by your positive, complimentary statements about the legendary Florida Boys. Les Beasley is a musical and marketing genius and does a fine job behind the quartet on the bass guitar. The present lineup of talent puts the Florida Boys in a very elite category of traditional quartets. They are perhaps the best traditional quartet on the road today with Gene McDonald (the finest young bass on the road), Glen Allred (the finest baritone EVER!), Josh Garner (an awesome lead), and Harold Reid. And Derrell Stewart is just as solid a pianist as ever…and just as funny. So, thanks for recognizing their tremendous talent and saying a few kind words (minus your rather abrupt quip about the tenor).

And this brings me to my points of disagreement.

1. You say the industry is in deep trouble. Well, it always has been ever since the mid-1970s. With the advent of ‘contemporary Christian’ the naysayers were saying back then that ‘quartet music’ was on the way out. To quote a famous person from the past, ‘The news of my demise is greatly exaggerated.’ Such is the case with traditional quartet music. Christian music will always be on the peripheral in terms of public recognition and sales. That is a simple fact. Can we broaden the audience? Sure we can. But to expect this industry, ANY segment of Christian music, to take the music world by storm is a pipe dream. Look at the demographics, for heaven’s sake. The Church itself is NOT keeping up with the growth of the population. And to a rather large segment of the Church (such as the liturgical denominations), Christian music in its popularized version is a non-entity. They simply do not listen to it and have no interest in it except at Church (and then it is ‘high-church choral music). So what? Somehow or another this industry finds a way to survive. And the particular ’style’ is not the key ingredient! If the music is performed well, it will sell, regardless.

2. You say that creativity is lacking and this will do us in. Balderdash! You mention as evidence the fact that most of the audiences are made up of older people. Well, here again, so what? It has ALWAYS been that way as long as I can remember, and I have been following this music since the early 1960s. As people get older they tend to get more conservative. There are people today in their 60s and 70s who love traditional quartet music who would have NEVER admitted to it or listened to it back when they were in their 20s.

3. You assume that in order attract a younger audience the groups must somehow cater to them with a new sound that denotes innovation and creativity. Well, explain Glen Payne and George Younce, then. Their concerts were FILLED with younger people. Did they come to see Ernie and Scott? NO!! Ask ANYBODY and they will tell you that they were there to see Glen and George. Yes, they could be creative and innovative, BUT WITHIN CERTAIN BOUNDARIES AND LIMITS. They never lost their love for and adherence to the standard quartet sound. They were just better at it than anyone else, and THAT is what attracted the audiences, young and old.

4. Your obsession with the Crabbs gets on my nerves. I can’t stand them. Musically they are mediocre at best. I hope that is NOT where we are headed as an industry.

5. Gaither’s problems with the NQC are of his own making to a great degree. I remember he once placed an add in the Singing News years ago promoting the latest GVB recording that claimed, ‘The GVB is Southern Gospel’s top selling quartet.’ This brought howls of protests from people all over, fans and insiders alike, including ME! GVB has NEVER been a Southern Gospel Quartet! They are a contemporary male group that sometimes sings southern gospel quartet music. I was livid that they would make a claim like this when the Florida Boys, Cathedrals, Gold City, Kingsmen, and others had been out there night after night building their southern gospel fan base in the trenches, while Gaither had been out in the hinterlands of contemporary music and then comes back expecting to receive the accolades of the fans when he had essentially forsaken us for about 25 years! And here again, Bill’s present difficulties with the Homecoming Reunions stem from the fact that so many of the QUARTET greats are DEAD. THEY are who the people wanted to see! (Note my earlier statement about Glen and George).

6. Concerning your relentless attacks on the Singing News, remember that SN was NEVER envisioned as a true, objective journalist newspaper of detached ‘reporters’ who deliver hard news. When JG Whitfield first started the tabloid in 1968 or so, he did so in order to ‘promote the concerts.’ That was HIS statement of purpose. Whit at that point promoted concerts all over the south and had at one time owned both the Dixie Echoes and the Florida Boys. He used the publication to promote his groups and his concerts. Thus, the purpose of a mag like SN is NOT to report gossip, bad news, etc, etc, but to promote the concerts and the groups who sing in them. You are setting up an expectation of SN that was never intended to begin with. To report the news, reflect on it objectively, even when it is bad, may be YOUR purpose, but that is NOT the purpose of SN! It never has been. And this righteous indignation of yours concerning SN being in cahoots with the NQC or whoever, is misplaced, since, as I said, their purpose has ALWAYS been to promote SG and the concerts and groups. Big deal.

Thank-you for letting me get this off my chest. Southern Gospel Music is my passion, and I had these things on my heart that needed to be said. Having said them, let me reiterate my initial statement that I do appreciate what you are doing. You are keeping our music and people who sing it at the forefront of our thinking, and that is good. Keep up the good work. We may not always agree, but I am glad you are there.

On labels using their own writers
This is nothing new. Elvis Presely management insisted writers turn over half the publishing rights of songs he recorded. Initially, because he sold so much, many writers agreed. As time went on many wouldn’t and he ended up recording a lot of bad material. Jake Hess felt the Statesmen’s recordings in his later years with them (first time round) were not as good because they did a lot of songs written by group members. Hovie said there were a few complaints but the guys loved getting those royalty
checks.

On what a tier is and does it matter?
As usual, you make some good points. However, I am at a loss at who or what decides what is top tiered or not. As far as I can tell several of the groups listed are way under the industry radar. I don’t believe there is any excitement about a lot of groups that are so called top tiered. I don’t hear of any companies trying to acquire these types. They probably do not sell enough product to pay for fuel. Their singing ability not withstanding. I suppose any one with a blog can say what tier any group is. I do agree that the NQC is becoming irrelevant. I have several artists(tier?) that are not going to NQC this year. The board is trying to beat a dead horse in my opinion. Falling attendance for the last several years should be an indicator that something is wrong.

On sameness and miracles
Has anyone else noticed that Wayne Haun, who produces much of the SG from Daywind, is suddenly a “much-in-demand” songwriter on Daywind projects?. His compositions are on everything coming from their stable. Not only is Daywind excluding outside, talented songwriters, Haun’s own pen (he no doubt has strong coersion powers since he’s already calling the shots on many areas of each project) is alienating the writers that Daywind has on staff, even. If any songwriter not connected with Daywind gets past Haun, Lindsey or Griffin and actually onto the project, miracles have happened.

On press releases
I suppose your writing has influenced how I read all press releases by southern gospel music artists. When I read the YH release about their “invitation” to join the President at the inauguration, I immediately was drawn to what it did not say. Just like BC I noticed that it “did not” say they were in invited to perform at the inauguration, only that “Plans are also under way for a performance at the White House by Young Harmony.” All this led me to believe that they were getting no more attention from the white house than I could get for my $25.00 contribution to the RNC. Not everyone read the release the same way BC and I did. One of the comments posted to the release says, “Congratulations on singing for the president!” I guess you can’t say Rick Hendrix doesn’t get results from a press release, but I think there are better ways to promote an artist. I have my doubts about things that Hendrix writes.On history
I believe we need more SG history available to everyone, especially those full of youth and desire to be in SGM. It should be mandatory that they learn where this all got going and why. It is very hard to build on a foundation if one doesn’t know where the foundation is located. I have little patience for anyone wanting to be a “SG Artist” and not be willing to learn what the term means and where it got its start. I find that attitude cavalier at best and hopelessly lazy at worst. Keep up the good work. I love your comments, agree with you most times, but always have been made to think.

On the Crabbs’ label switch
This is a might touchy subject with ton’s of Crabb fans but I think it’s another sign of the Crabb’s departing from the SG path. With Gerald & Kathy gone it’s all for the fame…………….

On press release writing
Your discussion of the Hendrix press releases reminded me of an assignment that I used in my Principles of Biology (for majors) class. The students were to select an article from that reputable publication “Weekly World News” - home of the articles on the infamous Bat Boy. Anyway, they selected an article that had some biological basis (Man cooks hamburgers on his bare hands) and I would approve the selection. They were to briefly summarize the article, discuss the biological principles related to the article and finally look for fallacies (appeal to authority, appeal to emotion, appeal to fear, hasty generalization, etc.). It was a good exercise and (hopefully) gave them a basis to critically analyze articles. Obviously this practice isn’t followed on certain SG News sites.

On sg death and dying
I enjoy reading your website. I am afraid SG is doomed. My brother and sister and I went to the Gaither Homecoming here in Phoenix and I was shocked at the absence of young people. They were ALL old. I think it’s a wake up call to SG to get its act together. After the old are gone, who is going to be listening? Unfortunately, I do not like the music right now. I have been going back and listening to my records of the Goodmans, Blackwoods, etc. of the 70s and 80s and I love the old sound. The music is interesting and the singing is awesome. I wish music was like that today! I don’t understand why it was so much better back then. Getting back to the Gaithers, David did AWFUL. The Vocal Band was not that great. They did not sound all that good. David sang “End of the Beginning” and it was like he forgot his words, his tone was lousy. I was shocked because I just love the Vocal Band and he and Guy are my favorite singers. It was very disappointing. Also, Ernie Haase was there with his group. The dancing cracked me up! I did enjoy the Booth Brothers and the Isaacs were classy. I was impressed with Mark Lowry, he sang “Jesus Laughing” and it was good. The Easters got on my nerves and I was glad when they were done, which was a surprise, I have always loved them! It was really hard to understand the words. Charlotte Ritchie sang a solo and I still am not sure what she sang.

On being invited
I had to laugh at your expose on Hendrix, Young Harmony, and the Inauguration invite. It’s amazing what the old press release mill will churn out, and it’s sad that many readers will buy the hype hook, line, and sinker. I can identify with YH and their invite. Back in September, I was invited by a friend who was a client in my previous job to attend a fundraiser for Bush. He had paid for a number of seats for the event, and offered two to me. I didn’t blink about attending (the price was certainly right!). I can’t even tell you if the fundraiser was for the President’s campaign directly, one of his PAC’s, or a layer of the GOP. It didn’t matter much.

After that and up until the election, I found my mailbox bombarded with Bush fundraising letters and the like. A couple of weeks after the election, I received a mailing from the President’s campaign which included a letter from GWB (appearing to be handwritten but certainly mass-printed) thanking me for my support. It included the sentence “Laura and I hope to see you in Washington at the Inauguration.” In the envelope was a postcard that included a hotline for “Inaugural travel and event information”, but it didn’t include or make any mention of any invitation or tickets to any official or VIP events. I assumed it to mean the President would be pleased as punch if I flew up to Washington on my own dime and stood in the crowds and frigid cold with everybody else, but that was the limit of his wishes for me. He’d probably be tickled if I occupied an airplane seat and hotel room that might otherwise be taken by a protester who might want to spoil the Republican fun. I trashed that letter and though no more of it until you raised the Hendrix issue. Using his logic, I suppose I received an “invitation to join President George Bush and his wife Laura for the 2005 Inauguration Ceremony held in Washington DC.” Aren’t I special???

On Young Harmony
I don’t doubt their sincerity they seem very genuine, but obviously have the money to promote their careers however they want. They apparently haven’t thought long term though. Do they plan to change their name as they age?

On diversification
Looks like Southern Spin is diversifying. How thin can crap be spread?

On Gaither
First of all, I want to say how much I enjoy your website! Keep up the great work. On another note, you are 100% correct about Gaither and his great business strategy. I have just recently attended a Gaither event (2005 Sunshine Tour) and he entertains the audience. And like you say, He “sells” southern gospel as a popular music form. Even the workers in the arena were stopping to enjoy the music and laughter. It goes to show that you don’t have to “shove” the gospel down a person’s throat for them to see the message. I believe that there is room for pure ministry groups and groups that have Christian entertainment. We must embrace both of these techniques if we want to see southern gospel pushed into the mainstream. Thanks for your time and your website.

On church angles
I read an article recently (when I find it I’ll email it to you) that reflected some concern by the networks (can’t remember if it was Fox) about a possible conservative viewer backlash against reality TV shows in light of some of the recent more over-the-top offerings out there. Perhaps such a fear is driving the churchy angle on American Idol.

On the site
I love your column. Your comments about the Jim Hammil era Kingsmen were great. I agree with your remarks. I always like their rough-edged and hard-hitting sound. A lot of today’s quartets are too smooth in my opinion and hence - boring. Of course I also like Russ Taff and Bob Seagar.

On American Idol
I was amazed, as you were, at how articulate and intelligent Gene Simmons seemed on the show. I guess I expected a little more of an “Ozzy Osbourne” type. Good for him. (I guess). Anyway, I realize that what I’m about to say borderlines on sounding a little bit like a Pharisee and that is NOT my intention. I thought it was a little sad/embarrassing that Gene Simmons was the one who had to put things in perspective for Jeffery Johnson. I’m not saying I think auditioning for American Idol was inherently “wrong” or “sinful”. That’s between him and the Lord. Just goes to show that as much as the “world” hates Christianity and what it stands for that they are watching and do hold us to a higher standard than we sometimes hold ourselves to.

On why they use “Indian” in their name
Possibly, the appeal of the Indian family name to those white southern gospel types is that many southern whites (at least with roots in TENNesse, KenTUCKy, Georgia, Alabama and the Carolinas) actually have one or more drops of Indian blood running around in their veins and there may be some kind of under-the-radar genetic/familial appeal there. Just a theory.

On Hendrix
As for Hendrix, he many very well be performing a great and valuable service in his business, but the press releases are clearly over-the-top. It’s a wonder I ever get a look at your site, since the Unthank clan probably jams the server by reading and re-reading your material and dissecting it for things they disagree with.

On feuds
I’ve never commented on this whole averyfineline.com vs. the Unthank thing but something has really struck a nerve with me. On Amy Unthanks blog [a recent] post bashes you for your avatar (the guy at the computer with a bag over his head and bottles everywhere). Has she read any of her brother’s blog posts???? If she’s going to condemn you for the way you “represent SG music”, she needs to look a little closer to home. In some of Chris’s posts he uses language that I consider profane i.e. “mofo” (we all know what that means). Not only that, but Chris makes no qualms about his dislike for SG music and the industry. Then why on earth is he involved??? It makes no sense to me!

On Brad Hudson
I think that this is an opportunity of a lifetime for Brad. He is gonna be supported by alot of young Southern Gospel fans & I know I’m gonna support him to the best of my ability. He is not gonna forget about God. God give him his talent…he is not stupid. If he makes it thru to American idol, I truly believe that he will be able to make a difference in the Music industry and all young people. That’s what he wants more than anything. I know!! I have known Brad even before he joined 3 for 1!! You people are downing Brad right now, but you need to really think…what about all the other SG groups?? Just b/c they don’t try out for American Idol, they still LISTEN to, & BUY, & SING other genres of Music. Yet they try to minister to others a few nights out of the week and when they are done ALOT of them do their own thing. I know for a fact alot of the SG singers have attended Country and Pop star concerts. Everyone needs to take a chill pill on Brad Hudson. He needs the Love and Support of people who believe that he can make a difference. Thank You!!

On T’s Treasures
I read with interest the material about the new merchandise Tony Gore is hawking these days. I find this whole “enterprise” disgusting. Let’s call a spade a spade: a large faction of sg fans are not all that sophisticated. I can respect that and a big part of me would love to simplify my own life in manner so common among many of these folks. What I don’t respect is trotting out a bunch of junk and passing it off as quality at a bargain, taking advantage of these people, if not preying on them. My girlfriend was over here earlier and I let her take a look at T’s Treasure Chest. She (being the savvy shopper) noted that a number of products are labeled as “Brighton look” purses, wallets, etc. I didn’t know this, but Brighton is a high-end women’s accessory line. My girlfriend showed me her $100 Brighton sunglasses and $75 Brighton wallet she bought at Nordstrom. We couldn’t tell if Gore’s products were direct knockoffs or clones. His were “Brighton look” which he said compared nicely to “original Brighton” in price. This could certainly lead a not-so-savvy shopper to think this was some sort of improved Brighton line.

On women’s work and that Sound Garden ad
I guess that wickedly funny comment about “someone who comes out of a bottle and calls you master” was too much for them! Have they never heard of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission…someone could have sued their tails off over that…never mind that it was just a stupidly sexist thing to say, even though you and I both now that the (now) fulltime executive assistant will still be female, and probably gorgeous! Keep up the great work, and keep everybody on their toes!

More on Tony Gore
Until now, just a lurker… but I do appreciate your insight with respect to some “ministries.” Even the integrity of someone who would say, “This extensive travel has allowed me to discover some of the best places in the world to find quality products at unbeatable prices” seems to suffer from common sense analysis. Is this J. Peterman? Do I really believe he discovered anything? or that these are unbeatable prices…? oh well…Guess I may not book a stay at Toney’s Smokey Mountain Chalet after all…. [I see it’s for sale now…]

On SSQ and label switching
I thought it was quite obvious that Ernie had moved from Cathedral Records to Gaither music. The Christmas album was with Gaither music. The press surrounding the name extension was attributed to Gaither. I didn’t realize there was any question. There probably wasn’t an official release since the “great love” record is still fairly new and is currently being promoted.

On Dollywood cutting sg acts
I think you are partially correct about Dollywood, in that, the changes may have been necessitated largely by the bottom line. On the other hand, I think that the changes may have a lot less effect than Dollywood’s management may hope. I was and still am disappointed that the Hall of Fame was moved to Dollywood, and I won’t see many concerts there either - and here’s the reason why: admission prices. I’m not going there and paying upwards of $40 per adult ticket just to see concerts, regardless of artists featured, and the utility of paying that price is very marginal when I consider the other attractions in the park that interest me. I suppose some folks with season passes might offset that, but those same people probably are of marginal benefit to the Dollywood profiteers. Dollywood may want to look in the mirror before making drastic changes.

On editing that women’s work ad
At least Sogonews is admitting to editing this, instead of editing it and saying nothing which is their usual modus operandi! Keep it up Avery.

On two things about Ernie Haase
I spoke to Ernie at a concert quite some time ago when the group started going by EH&SSQ and he indicated then that they would be leaving Cathedral Records. If you noticed, the Christmas Project was released by the Gaither Gospel Series. It would have been a hard personal decision for him to make but unfortunately Todd Payne is not the business man his father was. Another comment relating to Ernie: There has been inquiry as to Ernie lowering his mic when singing and there being no apparent change in sound. I was at a concert March 2001 when Ernie’s sound system went out. He stood center stage and sang “Little Is Much” without any amplification and he could be heard throughout the auditorium. The man has power.

On the Crabbs
I have to agree that they may make a larger impact for Jesus Christ in a music genre that is not Southern Gospel. There are other forms of music that uplift and encourage people and turn them to Christ that are not SG.

On Crabbs again
First of all I want to make it clear that I’ve never been much of a Crabb Family fan and I’m still not. But, for cryin out loud! Who can blame them for wanting to switch over to CCM. Any SG out there would do it given the opportunity. The truth is, The Crabb Family is probably the only group in SG that has what it takes to make it in another genre. And, I certainly can’t blame them for wanting out of the trash that goes on in SG. Man, the more I read about the SG industry, the more I want nothing to do with it. I hope they leave SG and do very well in CCM. And you know what will happen when they do? SG is gonna go down the tubes. The Gaithers are slowly abandoning SG, The Martins are split, and when the Crabbs go there won’t be much left.

On websites
Triumphant must have the same webmaster as Cathedral Records. They have been coming soon for 3 or 4 months at least.

On charts
When, after a long hiatus from sg music, I finally came back, I noticed first that there were several charts and none of them agreed. Just as a for instance, although the Perrys celebrated a No.1 single with “I Wish I Could Have Been There,” I never once heard the song until I got the NQC DVD which was Volume 4 or whatever. Not one time did our local sg stations play it and I listen daily to them and Solid Gospel. I guess what I am saying that the pop folks have Billboard’s charts and maybe Cash Box (does it still exist?), but there is no one way of formulating an accurate chart in sg because of the table sales and the bogus radio information. There should be a movement to standardize the “charts” into one industry-wide chart to be recognized by all. I suppose that isn’t possible because if that were done, no one could claim a charted or ever #1 hit at the Southside Baptist Church when the 200 people show up for the “concert.” You might guess that I have the Inspirations in mind on this. They hold “album of the year” and “best selling album” awards or claims, but I don’t know any sg fans that actually buy their stuff. I’ve read where they send out a “pickup load” of stuff every day to mail to fans, but where are the real numbers? There aren’t any and I guess everyone who wants to be dishonest or pragmatic can claim a charted or #1 hit if they want to. That plays into the mindset of groups who want to legitimize their existence. All it does is continue to dilute the genre so that nobody makes a decent living. I hope you can badger the “powers that be” into doing what is right and sensible. Standardize a chart for all of sg music and have everyone go by it. It’s the only solution that I can see.

On something I wrote
SG isn’t the only genre in which “you can be a star….even if you sing averagely or even poorly….” Witness Anne Murray, Amy Grant, Reba McIntire, Ashlee Simpson; the list goes on and on. The only genre in which this might not be true is Opera. I enjoy your site and can’t seem to refrain from checking it a couple of times a day. Just don’t get too full of yourself. That would spoil it all.

On promoting to radio
While I agree with the majority of your thoughts, this [entry] bothers me. I’m a member of one of those groups who sing nearly a hundred dates a year yet work full time jobs. This is out of love for the music and the fact I can’t go to my wife and say, “I’m gonna sing SG music for $500 a week”. We have charted in the past and I know it took a lot of promo to get it there. While I’ll never spend that much money on an endeavor like that again, it was a learning experience. I too have seen songs move thru the charts by unknowns remarkable fast and never know why. Here is where you and I differ in thought. It seems that you were implying that only headliner groups would and should be able to chart because they sale more product or sing to larger crowds. I’ll say that there are part-time, mid-level, semi -pro or however you want to describe them that can and do sound and perfrom as good as those you seem to allude to. Though not a big fan of the Crabbs, I remember them in a little 10×10 booth right behind us at NQC. The way they made it through marketing is great, but I remember them early on them being slammed by others in the industry for the way they got and received favors from DJ’s. (i.e. giving free concerts for airplay). Don’t know first hand that this actually happened, but there was alot of talk about this sort of thing. We’ve recorded, and had airplay of a song, only to have it released and go to #4 on SN charts by another group at the same time. I never, ever will get over the fact that we had a good recording worthy of charting. I felt the other group rode the coat tails of a headliner to accomplish their chart success and that particular songs success established them.

I was told early on that, “you want increased airplay more than you want chart action.” When I look at my monthly charts that’s what I look for, medium and heavy play. We get a smathering of heavy and medium plays and a handful of actual charts. We want and will chart again, I just want it to be on the songs merit and not that we are singing before 5000 or selling thousands of dollars in product. It would be nice, but sometimes we don’t have the promoters or outlets for this to happen. As a thought, if we would have had an assist from promoter, DJ, or another artist with our version of the #4 song, where would we be? Your blog is still the best out there, so keep up the good work.

On charting again
You hit the nail on the head. SG radio and charting are in bad need of an overhaul. It is a mess. Meaningless garbage taken up 2 complete pages in the SN news and not one item on that list has been determined correctly. It is time for a change. Maybe a sales driven chart?

On charting again
This Rick Hendrix must be a genius! Just a few weeks/months ago, YH was selling their bus on the SN website. Did they get one nicer than the one they were selling? I cannot find the link anymore, but it looked like a pretty nice ride. Perhaps Kirk Talley bought it to replace his car! (Tongue firmly planted in cheek.) As for the dissertation on the SN charts, the chart(s) in sg are about the good ol boys club, plain and simple. It’s good to be the big fish in the small pond. Obviously people with real ministry ambition (and desire to make $$), like Gaither, take calculated risks to “spread the gospel” and sell a few more videos. Their concern about chart topping in minimal. Local groups step out on faith with your latest #1, rent an arena, call up a couple of your buddies’ groups to open for you, and SELL THAT PUPPY OUT! Now THAT would be a real test of your popularity!

On Kirk Talley and Noni Juice?
I just got the latest (Feb 3) Kirk Talley newsletter. I’m sure you’ll get yours soon enough, so I won’t cut and paste it. If you don’t get it, I’ll forward it. Anyway… SOMEbody just HAS to ask what the heck he is trying to sell to horse farms and why on earth it matters to his fan base of SG music folks. Is he telling us he is starting some other side-line business besides the Noni Juice? Or is he feeding it to the animals if the people aren’t buying it? And when the car runs out of gas, what kind of gentleman would brag on telling a woman passenger that SHE gets to push the car while he steers???? (thankfully he got out and walked for gas, so why share a private joke that’s only funny if one were actually there to witness the event?) Anyway, because of your stellar reputation for such things, I nominate you to do the asking.

On paper hits
Greetings Oh Masked Oracle of the Southern Gospel Blogosphere: Let me begin by saying your “Get it on Paper” article may be the best, most succinct and intuitive article I have ever read on the subject. I loved your “paper hit men” and “make your own change night” metaphors. It is indeed a problem that dates back to the very beginnings of modern custom recording in the SG industry. There were companies who for $5,000 would make a group a record and almost guarantee a charting single from that record. Some of these groups were staggeringly pathetic. Some of these pathetic groups went on to legitimate success in the SG industry. Is this a great country, or what!!!!!

On country charts
About Carolan Freeman charting… Notice that it is the Country Gospel 100 Chart and not Southern Gospel. I didn’t realize there were 100 different singers/groups in Country Gospel. Apparently there are at least 55.

On charting … again
I think that you missed something about the charts. There are some artists that the SN will not chart no matter how much airplay they are receiving or how high they are ranked by the station managers. These are crossover artists or what the SN considers crossovers. They will not chart the Oak Ridge Boys because they say that the oaks are not SG. Same thing with Randy Travis and Ricky Skaggs. Either of these artists could have the most played song on SG stations and that song be charted by managers but SN would ignore them and not chart the song.

On Kirk Talley
The Kirk Talley situation was in my area, right or wrong. It’s not my decision to make only GOD but I personally feel that its wrong. But I will say this he was wrong for hiding his personal life because and I say this very strongly, We can’t lead one life and pretend to be in another life. So if he is gay and I say if then why did he or does he live a life as if he is right with GOD cause I assure you of this GOD does not agree with being gay. We have two choices to make: either live what we preach or just pretend, which one did Talley do?? He knows what damage he has done.

On this site
Just wanted to let ya know I enjoy your postings and thank God that somebody will be honest in SG. I’ve been involved in sg my whole life (I’m 33) and look forward to read your post everyday. All my friends and family (also involved in sg) love your site. Awesome Job!

On Kirk Talley
KT is so at odds, which entirely makes sense but which is terribly off-putting. When I saw him last summer he was still trying to carry off that innocent boy thing but he looks worse for the wear. Lots of denial–not so much of his sexuality but of his role in all of the events that transpired. Sounded like he’s spent far to many hours with a well-meaning but misguided Christian counselor.

More on charting
Your observations are right on. Not to mention the chart is 2 months behind when it is published. Numbers from stations given to promoters in February will not be published as the Singing News chart until April. The April chart, however, will be provided to promoters shortly after the 15th of February. The April chart will be published in the March Trade Review. If the chart derived from the February numbers from radio can be in the March Trade Review, why can’t it be published in the march Singing News? … Your blog is obviously getting read by some gatekeepers in sg. You are making an impact. Way to go ave!

On the state of the industry
Most likely the industry is ripe for a weeding out process that will totally separate the “artist” that step up and make the product they sell appealing to a larger audience and the sangers who show up and present SG the same way it has been presented since 1842. There is room for the conservative SG groups but there is no market for the gluttony of groups that are out there now competing for the good dates and the limited sales. The Crabb Family should be the poster child for taking a good product and systematically improving every aspect of their music. Most groups just sit back and are willing to re-book every date for the next year and be satisfied with recording mediocre material and equaling the mediocrity with there vocals and production.

On the Valentine Surprise
All I can say is WOW!

On that Valentine’s Day cd with Dolly Parton
It won’t be supported by a purchase from me!

On getting it backwards
Methinks you have it backwards. The charts (Southern Gospel) needs these high profile artists when they do make a crossover song that would be on the charts. The second point is that if these are not charted, then the whole process is a lie. It does not represent the music as SN claims it does. If SN is to be the “Printed Voice of Southern Gospel Music” as it claims to be, then it needs to be the voice of all SG music not some filtered, selected portion of the music.

On the cognitive dissonance of the KH singing with Dolly
Cognitive dissonance, indeed. It has long intrigued me how often many traditionalist SG fans and insiders have ignored their usual “sensitivity alarm” over encroaching worldliness within SG, since their longstanding, tacit fear is that SG could easily risk becoming sullied by its various flirtations with secular music, specifically when Elvis Presley or Dolly Parton have been concerned. Witness how many times SG types have mentioned (with obvious pride) that Jake Hess was “Elvis’ favorite singer” or how the Stamps Quartet still play up their long ago association with Presley. Who, pray tell, could have been more “of the world” than Elvis during those years the Stamps were his backups? Do the Stamps have so little to “sell” nowadays that the “Elvis connection” is their most effective marketing strategy to the buying public? Whoever the secular icon involved (Elvis, Dolly, etc.), it seems as if many SG fans and artists hope some measure of respectability will rub off on the genre as a result of these associations, regardless of how vague or tenuous. Folks who are not staunch fans of SG tend to see such things as misleading and desperate, just a step beyond that of an old innkeeper who may have advertised “Washington slept here” in an attempt to suggest an endorsement which did not truly exist.

On tongue, in cheek
My brothers and I (really big sg fans an now big fans of your blog) have been discussing what you look like. The consensus is you are on the biggie size; probably much like the pre-diet version of Jeff Steele. Since sg is known to be on the biggie size (Jerry Kirksey the torch-bearer on this one) we figured it would be only natural for you to be cast in the same mold. Don’t pull off an Ernie on this one; we want to know height and weight-I’m just kidding.

On Crabb questions
Does the number of categories in which The Crabb Family find themselves nominated show just how “undefined” Southern Gospel music is? Are they a picture of what emerging Southern Gospel looks like or would they fit best in an emerging genre of Christan music that is yet to be named?

On why Gaither isn’t on the Doves nomination list
It doesn’t surprise me that the Gaither vids are not getting any attention. They had their hay day back when Jake, Vestal, Hovie, Howard & James were living and appearing but now the videos have no real drawing cards. As for me I have heard all of Jessy Dixon, Ann Downing, Sue Dodge and especially the Gaither Vocal Band that I care to hear. I applaud Gaither for his work in the earlier years but he is just not that effective to me anymore. I would however like to see Bill have to try out for a group instead of buying a group to take up his slack and fit around his sound. Kind of harsh comments but sometimes the truth is just that.

On the worst site: this one
This is the worst site I have ever visited. I’ve been trying to find certain lyrics for several songs, and when searching your site, everything must be brought up in a new window. I do NOT allow pop ups on my computer since I have small children. And since I don’t know your site, though you claim to be a Christian site, I will not allow pop ups here either. Your site is very difficult to navigate and even more difficult to find what is needed. I will not recommend this site to any of my southern gospel loving friends or family.

On Dollywood and sg
We were at Dollywood for three days this year and had great crowds in the Celebrity Theatre. The weather that time of the year is usually dreadful and inconsistent which really places Dollywood in a tough situation. They can have three to four SG groups in the park for $6,000- $8,000 a day and not have much overhead. A country act will cost $8,000 and up per day and will have problems doing three -four stands without wanting more money. They really do not have a place to put a huge act other than the Celebrity and it seats 2,000-2,500 I think… My point is that SG is most likely the best draw for the park for that time of the year and provides the miniscule overhead that helps them make some cash or break even…..

On several things
On Dolly Parton, it’s easy to see the connections. Country music historically (except for the “outlaws” who came on the scene in the 70’s) has had ties to country and western music. At one time or another, nearly every country star has done a gospel album. You can do down the list starting with Dolly and add the Gatlins and many others. It’s no surprise because most of them grew up in the South and, as you know, you had to go to church and listen to this music. It becomes a part of you. Also consider the fact that a lot of sg music is just c&w with “religious lyrics,” and there you have it. As much as sg would like to appeal to the sg core of Southern Baptists, Church of God conservatives, and independent fundamentalists, the market that includes gays, Democrats, moderate liberals, United Methodists, Presbyterians, and any number of other groups is out there with money in hand. Dolly’s pretty smart. Let no dollar go unspent and let no lover of the music be denied. It’s just bidness, I reckon. And I really do think Dolly loves the music. Those who question that or her faith may just be the core who will let this music be confined to several states in a certain region of the country. Like Charlie Waller? I imagine the Kingdom Heirs will ignore this recording and continue on-they really have no choice. To bring attention to it means they’ll ruin their good gig and most people won’t even make the connection. Unlike our friends Gerald Wolfe, John Rulapaugh, and Scott Fowler, I think Steve French will keep quiet about it and hope it goes away. What do you think? On the websites. Apparently John [Rulupaugh] is doing PSQ’s website, or at least he seems to be doing it, and I guess he’s been too busy to work on that. Gold City seems like a professional site, but maybe this is the first sign that Bill is not measuring up to Tim Riley. I finally got their new album and I can say this-if there’s a more abrasive bass in sg music, I don’t know who it is. Surely, Tim will make a change soon. Or maybe not. Who knows? The other sites just aren’t very good and that means they must have hired some kid from their hometown to do them. The GV website works three days and doesn’t the rest of the week. The DMB’s sits looks like the same deal. You gets what you pays for, so they say. BTW, I really enjoy this give and take on sg music. I may be off base on what I think, but you make me think. It’s a joy and thank you so much.

On reactions
You are brave to put up Susan Unthank! I wonder what her response will be? I am sure Dolly would think it was a hoot! Kirk, not to sure about what his reaction would be. But all are good laughs.

On Dolly Parton
“The PR Dolly will embrace sg all day long (and obviously she knows enough about her house quartet to use them on a recording, a much more flattering recognition than, say, Louise Mandrell’s habit of commandeering the stage during Triumphity’s performances at her theater and forcing them in BGV formation right there on the spot.” Have you ever seen Dolly sing with the KH? She does the same thing with them too, uses them as backup. Also how did they sing there before she did use them on any of her albums? Also when was the last time she did this? Was it not before Integrity/Triumphant was formed? Just something to think about.

On who was first with the reunions
Spending a whole lot of time on this (which you alluded to) can be awfully short sighted. Did Henry Ford rip off the Karl Benz? Ford may have developed the “first” automobile, but he used Benz’s internal combustion engine! Should we call the Japanese rip offs? Many products that come out of Japan have taken a basic American invention and made it A WHOLE LOT BETTER! Whether people like it or not, Bill Gaither is one heck of a businessman. In an industry that seems lacking for any entrepreneurial spirit, Bill has stepped out, taken a good idea and made it better. Like him or not Maurice Templeton has done the same thing. MT has taken a fledgling magazine and made the default source “for all things sg.” Of course the NQC, SGMA, and any other ABC outfit want to be associated with him. I have had personal dealing with MT and this guy is sharp! MT and BG have a whole more in common than most people in sg would wish.

On firsts and lasts
First of all, reunions of old singers did not start in the 80s or 90s. There was an old-timers, night on the first night of the National Quartet Convention in 1972 and 1973. I was there both years. I think JD noted in one of his columns that there had been reunions before that. I was at the 1989 Grand Ole Gospel Reunion. Gaither was there. He and black man who I believe was called Shorty Goodfellow and had worked with the Statesmen (not on stage but writing songs) led all the old-timers there that year in some group numbers. I don’t know if Gaither attended the first GOGR in 1988 as I was not there but I do know he is not on the video that year. Gaither came back and led a group sing in the early 90s but I think that might have been after he started his videos. As noted, Gaither mentioned the first reunion video was simply a shoot for one video. But the group started fooling around and Gaither was smart to tape. Larry Gatlin, who said he planned to do a reunion like Bill was doing but never got around to it, says in his autobiography that he started the group sing that first time and didn’t get the credit he deserved. The bottom line is that Gaither through his connections got the first video on to TV religious shows and created a demand. Singing News put the story on the front cover and Jerry Kirksey raved about being there that day before the video even became available. Waller made videos on his GOGR but they were complete and lengthy in the early years (1988 is 5 video tapes) without editing. Quality doesn’t compare to what Gaither produced. Even the first unprepared Gaither one was pretty decent. I love what Waller does. But Gaither had the connections, more money (from his writing and Gaither Trio days) and added non-SGM artists (Black, contemporary, etc) to make it a variety show to appeal to a wider audience. Waller is no dummy and has learned over the years and now runs much more tightly controlled programs (SGMA Hall of Fame show) and puts out better edited video. But he still has not put out any DVDs. One example of Gaither’s effect: I know a man in Toronto who doesn’t go to church, had never heard of SGM but saw the show on TV one day and loved it. His favorite artist is Jessy Dixon. He has bought every video and now goes to Gaither’s Praise Gatherings even though he still doesn’t go to church.

On having good ideas
I have heard Bill talk about the first HC video at a Homecoming Concert in Sept. and he has mentioned it on several videos when talking with performers. He stated that at that time the GVB was kind of in limbo… should they continue or disband. He wanted to pay tribute to his heroes by having them join him on the song “Where Could I Go”. He invited legends and friends. They recorded the song video in the morning then ate a dinner of KFC. After eating they sat around and told stories and then Eva Mae went to the piano and started to play. Everyone gathered around the piano. The lights and camera was still set up so the cameramen were told to keep it rolling. Bill was going to keep the footage just for himself but after viewing it decided that what had spontaneously happened was such a blessing it needed to be shared thus beginning the Homecoming Series.

The Cameras and tape were being paid for by Bill so the footage belonged to him but Larry Gatlin tells that he was the one who told Eva Mae to keep playing and the cameras to keep rolling. He was upset with Bill since he considered it his idea and he should have been compensated. Larry Gatlin was not involved in the videos for quite some time. He stated that Bill wasn’t even aware of why he was upset with him at the time. All is behind them now and Larry has been involved in several of the later videos. ( I heard the latter part several years ago when the Gatlin Brothers had a Theater in Myrtle Beach.)

On the numbers and the Crabbs
From the “press” release” announcing the Crabbs new marketing firm “…and on tour — with nearly one million attending Crabb concerts last year.” Let’s see, three concerts per week, 50 weeks per year…hmmmm Isn’t that 6-7 thousand folks per gig? (That’s if they really did 150 shows in 2004, which is giving them the benefit of the doubt.) I seriously, seriously don’t think so. Looks like the guys and gals over at Creative Trust may be pulling our Southern Gospel legs just a tad. Everyone likes to stretch mess, now don’t they? Maybe more like an average of 1,000 or less, I suppose, per concert. But maybe my math is all wrong. If they really had ONE MILLION at their concerts last year at say $10 bucks a pop and they sold to 5% - 15% of their audience then they should be rolling in the dough.

On the Three Valentines
Of the three valentines you picture……there’s only one I would buy a box of chocolate for. Yeah Dolly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Gaither and other stuff
Wow, I have never heard it put any better re: Gaither. You described it exactly as I wanted to. A muddy bass voice covering up a true Baritone. As for your question I really don’t have an answer. My big problem that even I openly admit is that I just can’t find anything new and innovative that suits my taste in the SG music arena right now and I will be the first to admit that’s a sad state to be in. I try to like the Perry’s a lot but some personal things have happened that is driving me away. As far as the Crabb’s I realize that I am the only one with this opinion but I just can’t really go ape over them right now. I guess I remain in the “old” frame of mind with them, I liked them a lot when Gerald and Kathy were actively onstage. Keep up your “great” work you have the best site around by far.

On degrees of charisma
FYI-the McKameys are Baptist. 100% Independent Baptist. I was raised Independent Baptist, and a lot of IBs do shout, run the isles and holler and scream and cry. The BIG thing is they do not believe in speaking in tounges. You will never hear Peg do anything like that. They are not charismatic, though you may call their delivery somewhat charismatic. The McGruders, on the other hand, are United Pentecostal. UPC people don’t believe in women wearing makeup, women wearing pants at all, no TVs, women never cut their hair, men do not wear long hair, etc. They are a very Apostolic type faith. I think the Crabbs are a variation of Church of God/Assembly of God.

On nominating
It IS an honor just to be nominated. But those of us in Southern Gospel want that Grammy. We don’t want it going to Gladys Knight, we don’t want it going to Randy Travis, and believe me I’m a big fan of both….We want that Grammy going to someone who’s actually doing the job. Making it work, taking the genre a step outta the box, and most of all staying SINCERE. As a fan, I want that Grammy to go to someone that I can say “sure Driven is a great album, but I have CrabbGrass, Pray and Living Out The Dream….do you?” We really really want that Grammy. Nominate ‘em again….please, but rally the vote too.

On a charismatic trend
Well, none of this charismatic trend, if correct, seems to have had any influence on the success of Bill Gaither, the most successful artist/promoter in the history of SGM. I certainly don’t see many signs of charismatic behavior on his tapes. He doesn’t do a lot of preaching and stays away from politics. He’s in the Christian entertainment business offering a variety of music. In other words, he is not limiting his potential Christian-based audience. If you get into charismatic areas or do too much preaching and shouting or take political stands or denominational stands I believe you limit your potential audience as many SGM groups do and have done. There’s nothing wrong with that especially if you believe it is God’s calling but it sure limits your ministry (for those folks who seem embarrassed to call it entertainment).

On easy solutions for the future
The solution is simple. Perform high quality progressive SG music. Market yourself to non-SG audiences. Simply call what you do Christian music to eliminate the SG bias. Do NOT say that you are going to have church, just give a knock down, first class performance. Don’t worry about having to preach and minister to the audience. Have enough faith to let God and the Spirit minister through the music that you perform.

On church music and sg
My thoughts are these: in addition to CCM being an ever-popular choice of those oh-so-reliable music-buying teens (and, of course, suburban youth group teens have plenty of dough to spend buying CD’s and filling their iPods), it also has a bright future because praise & worship is taking over in churches from formerly stoic Presbyterians and Methodists all the way to the charismatics. I was stunned to learn that a middle-aged female co-worker of mine (a Methodist) listens to p&w compilation CD’s all day every day at her desk, and she fell in love with the music at their weekly contemporary worship services. My sister and brother-in-law attend a conservative SBC/MBC church whose song service is 100% p&w. My moderate SBC/CBF church is half p&w/half hymns. The songs performed by Mercy Me, Michael W. Smith, et al, are being done every Sunday morning in a ever-increasing plurality of churches, while sg is not. Surely that–in and of itself–is a barometer of the future.

Of course–as I’ve stated before–the rise of p&w and the corresponding increasingly informal musical environment in so many churches today (moving away from hymns and pipe organs toward full bands, drums, and upbeat songs) creates an opening for sg to slip back into churches and markets it has long departed from, only if the powers that be within the genre gain the foresight to go there.

It’s important to remember that the Crabb’s–should they cement a move to more contemporary or non-sg shores–are not exactly trailblazers in the endeavor. Go back to those rollicking (pre-retreat) 70’s. The Imperials, LeFevres, Speers, various Blackwoods, Bill Gaither Trio, and others at least dabbled in CCM waters (and, of course, various soloists have done so then and since). To be sure, at that time, there was very little developed CCM infrastructure in terms of recording, promotions or an established concert circuit, so each was met with varying degrees of success as they “straddled the line”, so to speak. J.D. Sumner and the Stamps’ affiliation with Elvis can certainly not be classified as an exodus to CCM, but it was a calculated career move outside the realm of sg. This all happened before the backlash against CCM/Christian Rock, etc., truly took hold. Other than with your rock-ribbed, most fundamentalist sg fans, it would be hard to whip up that backlash again when that very music is being played/sung in so many of our churches today.

To me the most likely scenario is a Crabb move toward more Christian Country/CCM recordings and concert dates. They can do that while maintaining the Crabb Gatherings (a proven, road-tested sg promotional vehicle) as the angle into sg.

[As for Susan Unthank’s new blog], I cannot imagine any material Deon/Susan Unthank could bring forth that couldn’t otherwise find an existing platform in their majestic cyber-empire, but I will wait daily with baited breath to see what jewels of wisdom they spew forth.

On being a star
Hmmm - Jonathan White snags surprise nomination for SGN Award; his song was #1 on the sogo chart; and he’s represented by __________ (fill in the blank).

On Dolly
In looking back at some of the factoids you received and published re Dolly and sg, I couldn’t help but chuckle a little at some of them. The following could be said about almost all country music entertainers of Dolly’s generation:

* Singing in church and gospel music was a key musical influence in their upbringing
* Many have had ongoing relationships with noted sg performers (especially back when gospel was relevant to the Nashville recording scene).
* Most have performed gospel music on a stage and/or on a recording.
* Most have performed at an events of some sort where gospel singers were on the program.
* Most will credit the Lord for guiding them to a successful career.

Dolly should be credited for her public role in raise the profile of sg at Dollywood, just as the Gaylord Entertainment folks did at their Opryland park and Grand Ole Opry in the 80’s and 90’s, just as the Statler Brothers did on their popular cable TV show in the 90’s, and just as the Oak Ridge Boys and George Jones have done with popular gospel recordings in recent years. It’s not Dolly’s abiding love for sg that largely insulates her from critical comments for her pro-gay and lesbian activities; instead, it’s the “bidness”, as you often put it.

Chew on this: if you run a theme park and you’re considering a four-group per day sg mega-event, crunch the numbers. Average theme park ticket price: $40 each and $6 to park. If you assume that two ticket-buyers ride together and each will spend at least $15 on food and/or souvenirs, you’re up to $58 apiece. Now, if the park can get ONLY 500 fans to come for the concert that wouldn’t already visit the park, you’ve got yourself $29,000 in additional revenue. That easily covers 4 artist/group flats of $3,000 apiece and the minuscule base costs of the food you sell at astronomical prices.

Unlike traditional promoters, just about all theme park costs are fixed, with or without the concert. They don’t have to rent a building, print/promote/sell tickets outside the normal theme park stream, or arrange for security costs, staffing, etc. Promotional ads can come from the existing ad budget and serve the dual purpose of plugging the park even for times when the concert isn’t ongoing. At just 500 additional tickets sold (a paltry 125 fans per group), and your profit margin is easily 50%. Pump it above 500, and it’s just all the more gravy. Even if the bulk of your fans stay for two or more days of the concert event, any ticket discount for a season pass doesn’t kick in until the third day, and anybody that hangs around that long is bound to spend many more bucks within the park in high-margin shops and restaurants.

As for the “house quartets”, think of it this way. If the Kingdom Heirs can draw a significant number of fans into the park, keeping them on the payroll is much cheaper than constructing, promoting, insuring, and staffing an amusement ride that might draw a similar number of fans.

The Dollywood cutback in sg dates probably has more to do with the law of diminishing returns than it does with any doctrinal shift. Sg is good for gate receipts, but eventually run out of new customers to draw and will find that your crowd will simply cherry-pick the best lineups. Dolly may be really fond of sg, but you can bet the Herschends have crunched the numbers.

More on the Crabbs
1. They were better when Dad was around.
2. If they sing like they did on “I’ve Never Been This Homesick Before” on Daywind’s Remembering the Greats, then I wouldn’t cross the street to listen. Saw it Sat on ISPN. It was embarrassing. Heard a bunch of folks walked out on them in Lynchburg, VA recently. You have to sing once and awhile, and not scream. Oops, did I say that, ………..out loud????????? Keep up your good work.

On recordings and reviews
I trade gospel videos with a folks now and then. I was watching one the other day with Oaks through the years and then on came the Kingsmen live in Louisiana opening for the Kingsmen. Quality wasn’t that great with big speakers in the way (assume it was an amateur shoot). The Kingsboys impersonated the Hinsons and then impersonated the Kingsmen before the Kingsmen came on and impersonated the Kingsboys by singing on their knees. The idea was a gimmick and the Kingsboys were not that good. I recall once seeing them in concert in Michigan with the Kingsmen but was not impressed.

Some day I’d like to get my gospel videos on DVDs (when I get a recorder). Quality is not always the greatest but I have some material I recorded from TV in the 80s (Cathedrals, various versions of Masters V, Kingsmen, etc.) that is pretty good. Other folks have provided rarer material (Stamps, Statesmsen in early 70s) but quality not nearly as good quality. I love some of old stuff Waller sells. I see on the SGL board that he had John Crenshaw at the Hall of Fame this week redoing some of the memorabilia.

Enjoyed your “honest” review of Greater Vision performance. Much more enjoyable than reading the usual fan ones that say “They were great.” I’m not a big GV fan although Wolfe is good. The other two are so-so singers. Rodney is a good writer within the current SGM context.

On the urban Crabb
The best reason I can give for the photo shoot is their upcoming CD “Live at the Brooklyn Tabernacle.” I’m betting that they did the shoot right their in NYC and tried something new. Brian Free and Assurance did similar stunts by taking photos on the Brooklyn Bridge and in Times Square… although they were in suits. You’re right though, people read way too much into photos shoots…. They are young, innovative and may be marketing geniuses. But they still are not as ragged looking as some of my favorite CCM artist may be sometimes.

On Greater Visions, Faces
I’m amazed! I can’t believe that someone actually agreed with me on this project. I have a friend who kept telling me that I had to hear this project. She said that the song “Faces” was great. Then I mentioned it to a friend who told me that he had actually played on the project. So, I thought, I’ll go and get it. I listened, and listened, and listened. Not one time did I get that “Oh My God” feeling. I thought it was simply….okay. I agree with you that the song “Faces” has a great concept but I wasn’t blown away. However, I feel that the song has a terrible arrangement. If the parts would have flipped at some point to give it that extra something, it would have been somewhat better. I also feel that if a mixed group like the Hoppers or the Lesters would have recorded it, we would be singing a “different” tune about the song. Thanks for agreeing with me.

On whether or not I grate
Gating? I enjoy your articles. There are few hard truths ever aired in SG. It is like a brotherhood where everyone that is on the “inside” protects and supports everyone else. On the site
Hi, Avery. Just wanted to drop you a note letting you know how much I appreciate your site. It is the only site I check daily anymore about sgm. I was getting kind of amused about the Unthanks and how they do things over there even before you came along. Well anyway keep up the great writing. … Here’s a good question to ponder on the site, why are there no more great live albums. Gold City, Kingsmen, and others were known to release a live album every 2 or 3 years or so. I miss the good old days…thanks again

On the Cats
Hi, I have read your comments off and on with interest. It is interesting to read your views as well as your musical knowledge. … Concerning “We Shall See Jesus,” I used to prefer the original version, but have grown to love the more upbeat version with Bennett’s excellent piano licks he had started doing (arpeggios etc.) Once I got used to the faster tempo, the original just seemed too slow and draggy. The one thing that bugged me on that latter version though was that instead of Haase and Fowler fading on the word “loved” during the trio on the part in minor, they sang the word them and then stopped. That was a minor thing, but it didn’t sound as good and generally Haase at least was a little too loud on the word “them” IMHO. I thought the fade was a neat trick that was a better segue back into Payne’s solo on the verse, but it also did a better job of painting the mood of the verse.

On Talley
Kirk strikes again it seems. Did you get the newsletter where he was selling his one year old low mileage car that he paid $23,000 for for $9,000 ? I found that mighty interesting.

On me (and Talley)
Would you please get off Mr. Talley’s back! Perhaps instead of so carefully scrutinizing the lives over everyone else, you should began to sweep your own doorstep. Mr. Talley is an imperfect man, but you are as well. We all are imperfect people! That is why we need the grace of God to daily sweep over our lives!

On the site again
Just wanted to say your site is the BOMB! Finally, someone to cut through all the crap and tell it like it really is, you really know how to stir the _ _ _ _ up and get it stinkin.

On hair etc
I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy reading your website. Don’t let others silence you. On hair length, ear piercing, tie wearing, skirt length, and SG: When the time comes when I have to make a decision about which way I have to go (mainstream or progressive) I’m choosing the one that doesn’t regulate good gospel music to what someone is wearing. I went to a private Christian school growing up and I’m beginning to have nightmares again. I can see an NQC board member with a ruler checking Ernie’s hair or Lauren’s skirt with a ruler before they go on stage.

On agreement, and not
A lot of times I agree with what you say. Other times I don’t. But despite that, I
want to thank you for making 2004 a very interesting year in the world of Southern
Gospel Music!

On BF&A
Heard a couple of the cuts from this CD a few weeks ago. The first single “Long As I Got King Jesus” kinda “got” on my nerves. Just too repetitious for my tastes. The other song (which I can’t remember the name of - which may say more than I could ever say) was just okay. However, my buddy from the record company states that this will be BF&A’s “career album”. Since I didn’t hear the whole project I’ll hold my final thoughts on the whole thing until I hear the whole thing.

On late night musings
I really enjoy your writings. Don’t ever stop.

I won’t be much help on the video question. I got my first VCR in 1985 (and old Fisher top load model). I remember at the time that my mother found out I had a VCR and looked everywhere for sg tapes to no avail. In fact, the first sg tapes I remember were the first Gaither tapes, so I was really out of the loop on this issue. I have a copy of a tape on DVD of the Masters V, consisting of Jake, Rosie, James, J.D., and Hovie and it dates back to the late eighties, I believe. I always despised the lousy production of sg tapes (and now DVD’s). The only exceptions have been the Gaither stuff and recent stuff by Greater Vision and the NQC compilation tapes.

Speaking of the NQC compilations, I just got the 2004 rendition today. I’ve watched it a couple of times tonight and it is tighter in production than other versions. What amazes me is that the same groups are shown on each and every “yearbook.” You can count on Gold city as the first group. The Dove Brothers will be either second or third (or last on the 2002 version), with Reggie Saddler, the Inspirations, the Florida Boys, the Hoppers, the McKamey’s, the Kingsmen, Kingdom Heirs, and Greater Vision always on the program. It must be a caste system. I guess you have to die or get infirm like George and Jake to get off the tapes (Jake last appeared in 2002 and George in last year’s tape). This year they did have the Perrys (in a great song and performance).

You always mention the Singing News. I subscribed to the rag almost eight years ago. I thought I was getting a magazine about the groups and what was going on in sg. Instead I got a magazine full of propaganda. I tire of the feature stories that tell us nothing about the group’s individual members except that they are loving their new “project.” (I’ve often wonder why it’s a project and not an album or CD. Seems to me that project is just too much of a word for a recording of new songs, but that’s maybe just me) I saw the article on the PSQ, just before Tony quit over what I believe to be John R’s overbearing attempt to control the group (watch the NQC highlight tape from 2003. Tony is singing lead on a song called “That Old Altar.” At the end they do a thing where they all come together to do a riff where the bass and the group go into a syncopated thing. Tony begins to do one of McCray Dove’s “bunny hops,” and John frowns and physically stops him from doing it. You can see Tony didn’t care much for that, but continued on. There had to be more to this than met the eye). I had hoped that I could learn a bit about Aaron McCune, the bass singer from West Virginia, but we get no such information … from SN. I am now debating on whether or not to renew. I got my last notice with the new issue.

One last thing. I have begun to download music to my computer (paying for it as it should be done) through iTunes, Wal-Mart and others. I find it much easier to download music, transfer it to CD, and make multiple copies (for $8 or $9) than to pay the price Christian Music stores charge for CD’s ($16-$18). Trouble is, sg is in short supply. I scanned iTunes and found only three compilation albums and SSQ’s Christmas album. Wal-Mart has plenty of black gospel, but no sg. Search on Gold City, Legacy 5, Greater Vision, or the Crabbs and you get nothing. That’s a great comment on sg. You can get GVB, Avalon, or any number of CCM groups, but sg is non-existent. Until the shackles are lifted from sg from places like SN and NQC, it will always be like that. Gaither moved on for this reason (IMHO), and so did the Crabbs. When will they learn? Thanks for listening to my late-late night mantra!

On coins and blogging
Just want to say, Thanks! It is about time someone started taking a look at the other side of the coin and letting others make up their minds about what is right or wrong in the business.

On discovering the site
I started reading your blog right about the time people started talking about you on various message boards. I will tell you this: I am so glad you actually understand music! I get so frustrated when people act like they are “music theory buffs” when, in reality, they have no more knowledge than a sixth grade general music student. As a college student studying music education, I appreciate the informed perspective you provide. I agree with your writings nearly 100% of the time. Keep it up. By the way, I rarely go to sogospelnews.com anymore simply because every time I visit I leave frustrated. I keep up-to-date by means of your blog. Thanks again.

On saying nice things
Love your writing. You challenge me to think, and that’s great!

On quartets and sounds
I recently purchased SSQ’s Christmas album, and I do like 90% of it. However, I find myself starting to agree with your assessment of Haase’s tenor singing, as being insubstantial. I have not thought that previously to hearing this recording. What happened? I also wasn’t that impressed with their choice of a lead singer in Ryan Seaton. He has a kind of raspy quality, that may be trendy, but it lacks the brilliance and a rounded tone that a lead singer should have, in my opinion. When I think of lead singers, I think of Glen Payne, and Ivan Parker as being among, if not, THE best. I also purchased MMQ’s first CD, and I am impressed. I bought it in no small part due to your high remarks about it. Very impressive for a first recording. I give them very high marks for an intelligent a cappella arrangement to kick off the CD. Right away, I knew these guys had some talent. For me, well done acap. singing is a sure sign of musical skill. To see them do it live would seal the deal!! I think they are great in each vocal spot. I do agree with you that Gary Jones is not the strongest singer, but he definitely brings more than enough musicianship to the table to make up for it. Their bass singer is also excellent. I will likely keep my ear on those guys. I would currently rate L5 and MMQ as the top two male quartets. I think SSQ is still good, but if Haase is a sinking ship, then for my money they are losing a lot of their appeal.

On one liners
“stacks worthy of a pancake house……” Where do you come up with this stuff??? I love it! Once again, great writing!!!!!!!

On videos
What you said about the Statesmen Video’ was very correct……….way ahead of its time………..I have never seen the video of the Speers you are talking about but I bet it is good…………..its a shame those old Nabisco shows of the Statesmen are not on videotape………..guess Gaither has already checked that one out LOL…………..keep on writing my friend SGM needs a voice like yours to keep people on there toes………..esp the Unthanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On an alternative explanation
I saw SSQ with Wesley Pritchard in concert together this year. Wesley played the bass guitar on stage with the group and would join in on the last few notes of a few big tunes to, as you put it, beef up the sound or add a 5th part. He was clearly on stage, and visibly singing. I wasn’t at NQC, but my guess is that SSQ wasn’t trying to hide the fact that Wesley was singing. Ernie probably just figured it would seem odd if Wesley walked up on stage and joined them for the last note of the songs in question. But, it would seem Ernie would respond to your inquiry.

More kind words
Keep it going whatever you do……

On fundamentalism and the Inspirations
I’m still wading through your [old] pages and finally got to read the “fundamentalist paper” on sg music this morning as I was preparing to go to church. It’s hard to believe that paper was revised as late as 1998. Those are the same arguments that were being used in the 50’s and 60’s against Hovie Lister and the Statesmen and other groups. The fact that someone still believes this stuff is really appalling. To think that Hovie and the boys wanted to make a living singing! I guess all those preachers should not accept a salary, too. Forgive me if you happen to be a fundamentalist Baptist, but I was raised one, and there are a lot of wonderful people who are misled in these churches. I always found it amusing when our church would shake their heads at the Statesmen but invite Squire Parsons to the church to sing time after time. Squire’s a great guy - [but] not quite the model that they wanted if that paper is correct. That narrow road is simply just a tad too much for any human being to follow including the author. You have to wonder if the NQC has folks of that persuasion on their board. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

I hadn’t heard about the anticipated Inspirations retirement, but I welcome it. Martin Cook must be 70 and my guess, as the leader of the group, he’s had enough. We can only hope that Hampton finds a good quartet to sing with and the others fade off into the sunset. I’m sure they’re good men, but seriously, they remind me of a music teacher who I shared a classroom with back in the seventies told me. He was taking auditions for the school choir and I noticed capital letter explanations after each name. The majority had CCTIB in the comments column. When I asked him what it meant, he looked around and whispered, “can’t carry a tune in a bucket.” I guess I’m just cruel.

On the Inspirations
It mat be interesting to note that during the mid 80s, the Inspirations did basically take a hiatus from traveling and singing with the exception of a few hit and miss dates. They basically performed at the Singing in the Smokies and at a restaurant they owned in Bryson City. They toured only a few limited dates and basically stayed put at their restaurant. I think it was actually called Inspiration Restaurant. I could be wrong with the name. That lasted from around 1984 until basically the late 80s or around 1990.

On the site
I’m still enjoying your blog. You and others who are pushing the envelope in SG for a renewed emphasis on top quality musicianship are getting through to others. Keep up the good work.

On Hodges freak out
What is it with the folks on Hodges case? I don’t really know the guy and can’t comment about him personally nor his singing, but man they are tearing him apart. Chris Unthank also did what I think is an uncool thing by deleting Derrick Boyd’s post. There was nothing negative to his post whatsoever, I am not sure of the justification for that. Oh well, moderator’s choice I suppose.

On sogo
I thought the SGN thread about Billy Hodges was so hilarious. The Unthanks deleted posts by Derrick Boyd and Bear because they were too personal or nasty (which they were, especially Bear’s), but they conveniently left Chris Unthank’s “unprofessional” rebuttal on there for all to read (which included the quote of Boyd’s first “can’t believe” post). All of which had the I’m sure intended consequence of leaving a very one-sided impression for the uninformed to draw conclusions from. Then to top it all off, Deon puts his $0.02 worth in about the minions of Satan taking advantage of illness in his family to wreak havoc on the MB threads! How over the top was that?! I’m sure he must be tired and stressed from all the health problems going on in his family and that seeped out into his posts, but it was still a sweet little microcosm of the ham-handed way they administer that board. Great fun!

On Lexus Jazz
Kim Hopper is probably my all-time favorite singer, and definitely a role model for me, but one thing’s for sure… I will never follow in her child-naming footsteps!! I’m so happy for the whole family, and my prayers are with them as they welcome their new addition–but Lexus Jazz Hopper?!?!? God bless that child! For the life of me I cannot understand the whole concept of naming a child after a car (Mercedes, Lexus, et.al). If they’re going to call her “Lexy” or “Lexie”, why not name her Alexis? And Jazz?!? Don’t even get me started. Personally, I prefer classic names that stand the test of time, and those for which the child will hopefully not HATE me in 20 years!

On the Galloways, names, SSQ etc
They must meet with the SN’s strict fundamentalist Baptist standards, I guess. Isn’t it about time that a true sg chart based on sales and not the payola that I understand goes on now (not to imply that money is actually exchanged). I know this will be hard since groups buy huge quantities of their own CDs to sell at appearances, but radio play is simply not an indication of how big a “hit” a song is. It’s part of it but not all of it. My guess is that groups like GV or SSQ actually sell more than others, but it doesn’t show anywhere. BTW, our local Solid Gospel station never plays the Galloways or GV, so maybe we’re out of the loop somewhat.

Isn’t amazing what some parents do to kids? For the rest of her life, folks and other kids will think she was named after a car and they’ll just think her middle name is weird. Reminds me of Frank Zappa’s kids. Why, oh, why?

I’ve always thought GV is one of the classiest acts in sg. First of all the great vocal talent of Gerald Wolfe (which you’ve so correctly assessed), not to mention his piano playing and great songs (for the most part) by Rodney Griffin. If they do stack their vocals, and they probably do because of the big halls they play and you can only fill up those big rooms with lots of voices (which they don’t have), it’s tastefully done. I’d much rather hear a stacked vocal from a class act like GV that that ineptitude that is the Inspirations.

And just a word on SSQ and their “live” stacked vocals. The vocal talent of this group is very strong, so why they needed it is a mystery. Doug Anderson is probably the most underrated baritone in sg, Tim Duncan have strong voices and we all know about Ernie’s imperfect but strong tenor. Why they needed a relatively weak-voiced Wes Pritchard to “help” is beyond me. I think a lot of the time, these artists are trying to sound like their record they just made. I remember a few years ago going to a Maynard Ferguson concert just after he released “Rocky,” and it sounded like there were 25 musicians on stage. There were only 8. The stacked instrumental parts were coordinated by a sound engineer so it would sound like Ferguson’s only hit on the song “Rocky.” That was years ago, so I guess it’s nothing new.

On degrees of sinning
I’m glad you’re taking Kirksey to task over the gluttony issue. I try to attend Frank Arnold’s Jackson, TN, Songfest weekend of concerts almost every year with a friend of mine from Memphis. When the concerts are over, we like to go to an O’Charley’s near our hotel for appetizers. One night, we were discussing how - in the eyes of the sg elite - it would be a mortal sin to order a beer or cocktail, but perfectly acceptable to stuff one’s face at a late night buffet. In fact, that very thing is even encouraged! They sell tickets to an “all you can eat” midnight buffet with the concert “stars” at a local restaurant that stays open late for that purpose. We went to it once, and I saw several performers from the Easters and Kingsmen pile a plate five inches high and return to the “trough” for more later. I’ve heard more than one sg artist get on a soapbox about “role model” movie stars and rock singers that destroy their health with drugs (which I obviously don’t condone), but say nary a peep about “role model” sg artists that eat their way into poor health and glorify the behavior. I suppose that’s just my rant.

On how I might be like BILL O’RIELLY (oh my)
I stumbled across your “Southern Gospel for the Rest of Us” blog tonight, and I just wanted to let you know I enjoyed it very much and have been studying it for a couple of hours. I recently CANCELLED my subscription to Singing News and reading your commentary was quite the refreshing change. I am completing my B.A. in Sociology and am a big southern gospel fan. I will tell all my friends about your website. I got rid of my Singing News subscription because of their refusal to list Kirk Talley in the magazine. You seem to have a lot of opinions and knowledgeable about a lot of things. I was reading your column on my laptop and watching Bill O’Reilly on TV at the same time. Could you guys be brothers?

On divisive tones
This is just a theory and maybe I’m all wet, but I think the heavy-handed and confrontational way the Unthanks administer that board sometimes contributes to the nasty tone that seems to crop up over there on a fairly regular basis. People get defensive before they’re even edited. And when the Unthanks do decide to challenge someone, it’s always an “in your face” kind of tough love instead of just dealing with people like adults. On sogospelluvers.com they approach MB administration in a much more collegial way and I think it contributes to the posters acting like responsible adults and keeping their comments in check. Just a theory.

On shaving
Is Earl going to have go shave his mustache in order to appear on the SN cover? I was under impression that no one with facial hair was permitted.

On SN online
Any clue as to what the heck is up with SN website lately? Its constantly down, plus to add insult to the fact, Jerry cant update a Journal Entry. Give me a break its been Nov. since he did any kind of update on that. Keep up the good work. Love reading the articles!

On my salvation, or not
Are you a born again Christian? I’m just wondering, because I know there are some fans out there who have never been saved. Please let me know.

On empty promises
Is this another next best thing for SG music? I hope it isn’t another hollow “come on.” I like Tony and Kim Hudgins (Sonrise Christian Voices). They are nice people. This just sounds like past promises. (re: World Of Gospel Music)

On harshness
I just finished reading the EIGHTH DAY and GALLOWAYS take. That EIGHTH DAY thing is just bizarre. What could possibly possess them to use that name, unless they are mocking? I mean, really, did they even read the verse? I know it’s there in the Word and all, but some things are just better not talked about in mixed company, right? But now, although I may have never made the connection, I’ll never be able to attend their concerts without thinking of that! Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing lost!

As far as the Galloways are concerned, I thought you were a little harsh. Granted, they haven’t had tons of SN top 5 success, but there are a lot of groups much longer established that haven’t either. Not to mention the reverse, i.e., there are a lot of songs which have merited that distinction that aren’t particularly good songs, either - Trail of Tears, for example… Anyway, while I don’t like every Galloways song or aspect, I do enjoy their sound. Besides, you yourself have shown yourself an advocate of new blood in SG. I mean, come on, Doug, how many Hoppers/Perry/Cats/L5/Inspirations covers can there be? Let them enjoy their time in the sun. It’s not just about charting, is it?

On stracks
If you have never noticed that Gerald uses stracks - you must have been attending their concerts from the parking lot. (Before you flog me, I know you didn’t say that you had ‘never’ noticed it, but just wanted to make a point.) They (admittedly, they are better now than in years gone by) have a tendency to amplify them at levels never before known to mankind. They also run effects on those channels, and let’s be honest. Studio recorded vocals as stracks are fine, but to then ‘re-process’ them live - it was horrible. I went up to Jason during one intermission and said, ‘Man, you gotta turn down the reve on the stacks. You guys are killing me.’ He looked at me and said, ‘Yeah, we’ve already been told.’ Amazing. I do not understand the use of stracks at all. You might say the Rodney and Jason aren’t THAT capable, but just let Gerald sit down at the piano and do something non-Memorex. They really have a clean natural sound that would be just fine for performance. Oh for the days when everything was done live. When Roger played all the songs, when Big Jim did 12 encores of every big song until you were about to spontaneously combust in your seat, when singers were singers in and out of the studio.

On Vestal etc
Excellent post on the GMA and Vestal. The Crabb Family must be doing something right. I think a lot of groups could learn a thing or two from them. As far as Vestal, they made her (or she made herself) into the creation she became. She was a star. It wasn’t a matter of if she could sing or not. She was way bigger than that. She was a commodity. She was the consummate performer. All she had to do was wave her hanky and wave her arms in the air and shout “Hallelujah”, and the crowd went home happy.

On mixed blessings
The article about Gaither and his marketing is great! You are a great writer! It is not surprising to now learn that your livelihood is made surrounding writing and teaching writing. But I have to say, I still get a little miffed that you set yourself as the ultimate judge of group names. That is too subjective for you to be so critical of so many names. You criticize many names that I (and many other people I suspect) think are just fine. Good even. But I do enjoy your blog and agree with much of what you write. My husband and I are leaving to go on the January Bible Cruise with Greater Vision, Signature Sound, (no, I mean Ernie Haase and Signature Sound) and Adrian Rogers next week, so I’ll have to miss your blog for a week. But maybe it will be a decent trade-off.

On funny stories
Your description of Vestal’s entrance reminds me of the one Jerry Goff would make with the Thrasher Brothers. The Thrasher Brothers would come on stage and start singing “The Old Rugged Cross” when it came to the chorus, Jerry would start playing his trumpet from a seat somewhere in the back of the auditorium. He would then proceed down the aisle, playing and reach the stage in time for the refrain. One time he sat behind my brother & me but we were unaware he was there. When he started playing, we literally jumped out of our seats. My brother had recently returned from the service and still retained a lot of GI vernacular. He said “Jeez, you scared the crap (except he didn’t say crap) outta me, what the heck (except he didn’t say heck) you trying to do?” Jerry said, “Sorry, man.”

On Gaither and his sales
I used to read those sales reports over on www.gaithernet.com and think they made them up. Well, taint so, I guess. It’s easy to see why Gaither’s products sell so well. First of all, he *pays* for TV commercials on them and second they are so good. Now, like you, I don’t enjoy everything he does, but as I’ve told you before, the things sound wonderful and the picture is flawless on the DVD’s he produces. And he puts on a good show even when the TV cameras are not moving. One other thing that Gaither does that is wonderful is he stays away from politics. When he was in Charleston, WV recently, a buddy of mine was lucky enough to get a backstage pass and meet Bill. He asked Gaither why he wasn’t on the Bush bandwagon. He said Gaither said it wasn’t his job and that he wanted to entertain both Democrats and Republicans. It wasn’t his job to campaign. DMB recently mentioned in one place or another (can’t remember) that Palmetto State, Greater Vision, and Legacy 5 (and others, I think) had suffered a loss of bookings and sales because of their political stand. Is this true? If so, you can bet that dollar went to Gaither.

On GV
“Hot stracks (sic), comin’ through” …It’s interesting, on the 2004 NQC CD, Greater Vision is singing “He’d Still Been God.” They do an encore on the song with no stacks. You can tell that there is no stack track on the encore, especially on the part where they one by one come in on “He’d Still been God, even….” On the stack track it holds out God, but there is none on the encore. By the way they still sound good without the stracks, and that full sound.

On the site
I think its awesome that someone is completely honest in writing about SG music. These are some of the best articles I have ever read. Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!

On the Galloways
Do you think it’s a coincidence that the Galloways’ chart success has anything to do with the fact that Earl Galloway owns a radio promotion company called Airplay? I didn’t know if you were aware of that fact or not.

On the SSQ in concert report
If your computer had ears, it would hear the “Hallelujah chorus” coming from Memphis TN!!!!!!!!! Only kidding! Thanks for posting the email about SSQ … Just one of the reasons I respect you, Avery - you remain objective and always report the facts about SG music……….great job investigating! You got your brownie points from this SSQ fan! LOL!

On in (and out) of sync
I have a collection of several NQC videos that I watch when I need my sg fix. Lately, I’ve been bothered by something I just noticed. There are times when the singers mouth obviously is out of sync w/ the actual vocals. My question is, Are most of these productions just a video of the group with the sound coming from there studio recording, or is it just patch jobs/overdubs from studio work afterwards? One real obvious one was from the 1999 video by Shane Dunlap’s group with the song “out of the blue.” Another one I noticed was on the 2003 video when Mike Holcomb was helping GV with “Rocked on the restless tide.” Just curious how much is legit or “lipsynced”?

On how pathetic I am
The kind words about Signature Sound Quartet were so deserving and appreciated. But you just had to add your cruel remarks. Does that really make you feel better. How sad you are.

On SSQ, again
Hey there! sounds like we might SSQ-ize you yet! They really are a great bunch of guys. they bring excitement and style to SGM that it has not seen in some time. They truly have heart for what they do.

On SSQ (with a side of GC)
I saw them once at a Baptist church in Beckley, WV last year. I have to admit I like them a lot so I’m a bit prejudiced. Ernie and Gary assembled a pretty good set of voices. Doug Anderson might be the most underrated baritone in all of gospel music. He just amazes me with his range and his stage presence. Tim Duncan is an excellent bass-sort of in the George Younce mold: he can sing anything. I thought Shane Dunlap was the perfect blend as a lead, but I guess Shane thought otherwise and left. Ryan Seaton is fair and so young he’ll improve. Together, they sound all together like they’ve been singing for years. I can’t say the same about the other off-shoot from the Cathedrals-Legacy 5. My one and only encounter with them was near Canton, OH, last year. There is no blend as far as I can tell. That might have been changed with their new tenor, but what I saw on the NQC tape didn’t convince me.

I guess Ernie wanted SSQ to be the next coming of the Statesmen with the dancing, pink suits and wild ties. I do have news for Mr. Haase. They ain’t. No one ever will be, but if he can keep these youngsters together, they’ll do well. Witness their body of recorded work so far. Their debut album was the best debut album I have ever heard in many years of listening to this genre. I still have it in my car CD changer after almost two years. They followed that up with albums of old standards that were very well done. IMHO, their Christmas album was the best from a sg group in many years. They tend to mix old songs with new but concentrate on true quartet songs (except for “Dawning”-why they recorded this I’ll never know but it’s popular). Can you tell I like them?

One more thing. You were at NQC and saw both “versions” of the new Gold City. I had a friend who was in Louisville and he says that there was a marked difference in performance when Tim Riley performed with the group. “It was like waving a magic wand,” he said. When Riley was on stage, things were more animated, harmonies were tighter, and better songs were done. Kind of like the boss was around and let’s show him what we can do. I saw the NQC tape where GC opened with “God Handled it All,” and it was a good performance, though I’m not fond of the new tenor (abrasive voice IMHO). Then I watched the TBN special and wondered what was wrong (actually, I saw the special first). My guess is that before it’s over, Riley will be back with the group. Just a guess.

On that SSQ report
Wow, what a comment from FK. I know that you respect his opinion a lot but makes me wonder what he’s going to the concerts looking for, music or looks…..Just my thought..

On John Hagee
I really liked what you had to say today…………I can not understand what so many see in John Hagee………..

On Gaither and money
I also had to chuckle at ENCORE who posted that money was not Bill Gaither’s ‘primary’ motive for singing and promoting gospel music. Hey, how does ENCORE think Bill is able to afford that private jet airplane? Take away the greenbacks and watch how motivated Bill and others would be to sing. Of course every singer has to be supported and compensated for ‘their’ siniging ……. enough to earn a ‘decent’ wage and hopefully an additional amount in the process. Just singing for singing’s sake never satisfied anyone’s hunger pains. There is a promoter who lives in Oklahoma and promotes gospel singing concerts here in Tyler, Texas. That’s fine and dandy. However, the guy gets up at every concert, with a full house in attendance, and begs everyone in attendance to give a contribution so he can continue to bring the groups to Tyler. Yep, this is in addition to the ticket price for attending the concerts. With the prices of tickets there’s not too many people that I have heard talking about it who can afford to also ‘kick in’ more booty for the promoter. We found out that this guy has made it his premier mode of revenue. Oh well, enough ……..Enjoy your website.

On Brad Hudson and where to use your talent
Your entry this evening [about Brad Hudson and going pop] was very interesting. I know we have all had thoughts about where people are going, but it’s the first time that I’ve seen it expressed the way I would. SG artists are human like everyone else. Hudson had best prepare for the worst. Even Bill Gaither gets criticized on the message boards for not being totally sg, much less pop. And Gaither is almost universally loved. Remember when Amy Grant started writing and performing songs that could go either way? I can’t remember the song but it was one about love and could be taken either as a religious or a secular song and the furor, at least in my part of the woods was something else. Apparently it got so hot that she came back with a statement that she was singing to God. Yeah, right. I can remember a lot of fans who just wrote her off and laughed when her marriage and career went into the dumpster. I doubt that Amy Grant could go back into CCM again now. Besides, she’s been divorced. Like my buddy says, “once you leave, you can’t come back.” I think he’s right.

Hudson’s dilemma is much worse. He’s going to be on National Tee Vee and everyone is going to expect him to sing sg music (he won’t) and testify (they won’t let him). Then if he does go top 10 without either of the above, he’s made his career decision whether he likes it or not. He can’t go back. I feel for him, but maybe that’s how he wanted to go out. It doesn’t take much for the sg community to write you off. This oughta do it for Hudson. Good, thought provoking writing. Thank you.

On being Christian and secular
I have never written to anyone like this, but RJ Helton was on Idol and now his CD graces the shelves of most Christian book stores. Also, you won’t find Clay Aiken’s CD in a Christian store but I noticed his book was. So, just because you go “Idol” doesnt’ mean you will loose all roots with Christianity. I had a friend who auditioned for the show, made through a couple auditions before being sent on his way. Scouts heard him at audition tryouts and now he is in Nashville. You never know what will happen

On how you can’t go home again
It is perfectly okay for an sg fan to never seriously consider entering the genre (or any other ministry) full-time, but once someone enters it, woe be to them if they ever consider leaving it for anything other than a church-related job! I suppose singing up in sg music is supposed to be a lifetime hitch no matter what.

On Ken Kirksey
Uh - oh! I hope he is wearing a flak jacket. He’s casting “mud” on two of the Red states’ heroes: Tim LaHaye & Duane Gish (thus becoming a hated evolutionist by default).

On Ken and Tim LaHaye
Well, after reading the post you referenced, Kirksey has gone up about 10 points in my book. At least he calls it as he sees it in regard to Tim Lahaye, who has done more to distort Christianity than a whole new testament full of antichrists.

On the site, again
A friend of mine (drummer for a top QT in SG) just turned me on to the site and I have enjoyed the last two evenings reading the articles. Great site and I will be back. Keep up the great work (we) need a site like this, not one that is sold out to the rest of the profiteers in SG.

On Wally Varner
I read in the local paper here in Orlando, FL, about Wally Varner’s passing. It was mentioned only briefly on the SN website and nothing else has been said. Was Wally totally forgotten after the first few Gaither video’s? He made playing the piano look so easier and I have never seen anyone who could get more out of a piano with the least amount of effort.

On remembering the KM
I’m glad you wrote what you did about the Kingsmen and “Stand Up at Opryland USA”. For some reason, I’ve thought a lot about the Big K lately and the fact that in the “speak no evil/hear no evil” world that is sg, very little has been made of the sharp decline of this icon group. When the Kingsmen name was “retired” a few years back my Dad reacted interestingly. He said, “It’s just as well because the Kingsmen actually died when Hamill went off the road.” Staunch Big K fans will deny it, but I think he was right.

The Kingsmen will always be special to me since they were my first love in sg. When I was a kid, our family attended the NQC’s and big concerts in Memphis. While my Dad was lapping up the Blackwood Brothers and J.D. Sumner and the Stamps, my first impressions were of the Mighty Kingsmen. As I kid, I can remember getting caught up in the “giddy up and go-to-town” spirit of “Saints Will Rise”, “I’ve Made a Covenant”, and “Beautiful Home”. As I’ve grown up and my musical ear has become more attuned to quality vocals, my taste has moved away from all that toward more of a Cats/GVB/Greater Vision style, but - as you allude - it’s still easy to get swept away by those old recordings.

With the Cats, you can easily get caught up in the style and the quest for vocal precision and perfection. With the Kingsmen of their heyday, it was like a vocal and instrumental rodeo–rumpled, rough at the edges, and just throwing yourself into the zest of the moment without knowing where things might end up. There’s not a group on the road today that I’m aware of that can come close to that experience.

It saddened me to the see Kingsmen name returned to “active duty” with such a lackluster lineup. Today’s group is about two notches below the elite groups. Contrast that with the Cats’ graceful from the sg scene. The Cats’ legacy will remain cemented while the Big K as we knew and love it will keep on drifting.

A thought that crossed my mind recently was that Tony Peace is probably the only singer out there that could breathe some life into the Kingsmen and return at least a measure of the lost aura. He has the persona, the charisma, and the vocal power to remake a sound and a stage presence on his own, just as Hamill could. I’ve long thought of him as an sg heir apparent to Hamill, yet unfortunately Palmetto State never fully capitalized stylistically on that potential. If you try to plug Peace into any of the “puzzles” of the major quarters today, he far and away would fit best into the Kingsmen. Probably too good to be true.

On the KM and Burger
I love the way Tony Burger plays the piano and he was great with the Kingsmen and an added draw for the group because of antics and personality. However, I’m not sure how much he helped to create the Kingsmen sound which to me seemed to be fully in place when I first saw them at the 1973 NQC. I can confirm it today because I audio-taped their 1973 appearance and have it on CD. If you have the live albums “Big and Live” and “Chattanooga Live” (both without Tony) you can compare their live sound before and after Tony.

On being inspired
I have not written a response to your column in several months, but I must tell you about a moving experience. My husband and I flew to Lancaster, Ohio to attend the Greater Vision 15th Year Reunion on December 30. I was so moved. The Marc Trammel Trio was very good. As always Greater Vision did an excellent job. The original Greater Vision did a great job, too. Maybe, one reason I was so moved was that the original Greater Vision Group sang ‘There Is a River’ and ‘Til the Storm Passes By.’ I am not sure that there were many dry eyes in that church. I can hardly wait to see the finished product. Thank you for listening.

On being banned
I have, too been kicked off of the Unthank’s message board for voicing my opinion on things. Got Susan [mad] and called a spade a spade … next thing I know, I am banned from the board until November of 2005, and even got an email from Susan saying that I am to never try to log on with a phantom name or anything like that. Basically telling me I was no longer welcome to post EVER. Guess if I got saved all over again and turned over 4 new leafs, it would not do any good. I guess heaven is gonna be an awfully lonely place for the Unthanks. Looks like they are the only ones deserving of being there. Take care, and I love your blog

On withdrawl, XM, homosexuality
Glad to see you’re back and among the living. I did have withdrawal. I found myself checking your blog at least twice a day. I had visions of Unthank hit men [joke].

I got sick over New Years and was confined to my bedroom for several days (my brother-in-law gave me a nasty virus that just wouldn’t go away). Anyway, during my sick time, I was able to get to my laptop and with a wireless internet card was able to surf in a prone position. I decided to activate my XM Roady I got for Christmas and when I did, the CSR offered me a free month of XM On Line, so I took it. I got my earphones out and tuned to the on line “station” and hit channel 34 which is called “Enlighten.” I was pleasantly surprised. The mix was very good with the first two songs I heard being the Perry’s “Calvary Answers for Me,” and EHSSQ’s “Stand By Me.” As I listened for a few days, it came to me that Spring Hill must be cooperating with them big time. Every other song was one of the Gaither Homecoming selections and if not that, it was Signature Sound or Legacy 5. I have noticed that in the last couple of days, they have expanded to other groups, though. Curiously and thankfully, I never heard a DJ or a commercial. If they ever offer it on their regular service, this could be nice. I doubt that will ever happen.

I have to wonder why homosexuality is such a fear and stems so much hatred in the Christian community. It has become the battle cry of all evangelical churches and every sermon it seems brings up homosexual marriage and homosexuals in general. Even my own denomination (United Methodist) is paranoid over this with one branch seeking to break away from the main church because of ministers on the west coast looking the other way on gays in the church and gays in the ministry. I guess I’m just a live and let live guy and since it doesn’t effect me, it isn’t on my mind constantly. Kirk Talley seems to have become the poster child for all that is wrong in sg music, according to the pastors in these parts. And, believe me, it’s hatred. Isn’t it funny when Christians decide to hate the person instead of the sin? IMHO, Kirk better hang it up and get a job selling Noni Juice full time. He’s toast as a sg performer among the most righteous and that seems to be the core of sg music. Just one more reason why sg can never reach out to a new audience. When you limit your fan base, you just become stagnate. But, then again, it’s always been that way. And that’s another reason why XM will never offer Enlighten to the regular lineup. We tend to come off as not enlightened [but as] maybe closet rednecks.

On death and euphemisms
Believe me, I’ve heard it all! As a funeral director, I am privy to many intimate moments at the arrangement meeting, the viewing and funeral and graveside service. I think it all has to do in part with a sort of political correctness, and also an attempt to make a very painful experience less painful. Funerals that have no faith background or input at all can be even more sad than those that do. Perhaps I am reading my own faith background into the scenarios, but in my mind, few things are sadder than a funeral that is poorly attended, and a funeral service that offers no hope or comfort of any real sort, faith-based or not. Even in my profession I am a victim of political correctness……..I am not a mortician, or an undertaker, I am a funeral director. You also won’t hear many people call me an embalmer either. There is no politically correct word for that part of my profession. Anyways, perhaps I am straying too far off topic…………..welcome back from Chicago!

More on euphemisms
You are really scaring me!!! Just YESTERDAY, I was talking about how it drives me crazy that Christians have “sugar coated” death. It’s a reality that we are all going to face. And then you write this…….unbelievable……are we long lost relatives??

On Jesus using metaphors
Well, Jesus often spoke of death as “sleep.” Also, Luke spoke of Stephen’s death as “sleep,” and Paul used the same language. Perhaps, Christians have followed the lead of our Lord in using “life language” for death because we want to emphasize the hope that is our in Christ.

On sgmhistory.com
Looks like another wannabe news site…filled with the same weak journalism as SoGN. The Circumcision group is recording. ECC sign a bunch of people I’ve never heard of. Oh, These are links back to www.sogospelnews.com! duh! The site claims “Welcome to SGMHistory.com, an on-going encyclopedia of southern gospel music history!” Last article was October 2004 with the author James Hales, having to post a comment on his own article. On-Going? must be no history happening. Too bad they don’t have GOGR’s John Crenshaw. Man! that guy know his SGM history!!

On history
Just a comment about the new SGN History section. SGML has offered SGM history and trivia since we had the old board. John Crenshaw is our resident expert. SGN is simply attempting to keep up with the Jones’. Thanks and keep up the good work!

More euphemisms
Here’s one for you: “Florence Godbery was translated to the universal church triumphant.” As they say, “death ain’t no big deal.”

On Brad Hudson
Our group was in concert with Brad Hudson this weekend and he is truly a phenomenal singer. He has awesome control, but I am also looking forward to seeing how far he makes it in the idol competition.

On sgmhistory again
I took a pretty long spin around sgmhistory.com and found it to be sorely lacking in both organization and material. If you click on the site menu link “artists”, only a link to a narrative of Mark Bishop pops up…nothing else. Of the combined five soloists and groups highlighted on the site, perhaps Mark Bishop’s performances are the only ones to rise to the level of “artistry”.

If you click link “news”, nothing comes up. One might rationally expect that “news” at an sg history site might encompass Hall of Fame induction stories, updates on historical recordings and books, etc. On this site, there’s nothing.

I like the concept of an sg historical archive site where fans or researchers could get info about the timeline of the genre and groups and individuals that had (and/or continue to have) the most influence. This site just isn’t it.

On random thoughts
Hi…just a quick note to say a few things (am I just venting? I guess so):
1) I really enjoy your site. It is extremely well-written (and quite funny!). I agree with so many things you have written. Keep up the great work!!!
2) Kirk Talley. I have always been a huge fan of his, but the emails I get to “Kirk’s Krew” are getting really ridiculous. The “Restoration Team” statements always sounds so solemn and final. And why would I want to buy a car from the guy? Also, I remember an “At Home” feature on KT in the Singing News some years back…looks like he has always done okay financially, considering the various businesses he has been involved in (never mind trying to pawn Noni Juice on us…I guess I should ask this: will it make you ex-gay?). I think the newsletter that bugged me the most was the one where he is talking about the “Convention” that was around NQC…but he was talking about a Noni Juice convention that he won by being one of their top salespeople (again, I am supposed to believe he is struggling financially???). A comment in that newsletter was something along the lines of picking between NQC and a trip to Hawaii…’No contest’! I thought it was interesting that here is a successful artist who has always had loyal fans, and basically his comment to them was, ‘I would rather be in Hawaii than face all of you’. Yes, he didn’t want to face SG fans…but I don’t think Hawaii had much to do with it! p.s just got the latest newsletter…unbelievable…he is telling “the Krew” about throwing meatballs out the window of his car…really polite. I would really want him at my church now, so that all the little old ladies who make some meatballs “especially for Kirk” can know that he will be nice to their faces, then throw the meatballs out of the window of his moving vehicle. (Which story is worse, this one or the one where he went into a women’s restroom, then lies about who he was???)
3) A beef: I emailed the Crabb Family to let them know that when I click on links at the side of their homepage, I get little popup windows saying “You must click YES to continue”, which opens up other windows that link to porn sites. I have been going back and forth with the webmaster, but every time I explain what happened, he/she writes me back asking me to explain it again, or keep trying to click the links. The last email says, and I quote, “Hmmm, is it still happening? Would you try once more for me? If it does happen, let me know which link causes it. Thanks for your help, CF Webmaster” Argh…I don’t even want to reply because I’ve already explained the circumstances A FEW TIMES. Guess they don’t believe me…Funny thing is, I am not even a big fan of the Crabb Family - and on another note, I don’t feel that they are Southern Gospel, although they are always trying to suck up to the SG fans. I guess if the Singing News people like you and promote you BIG TIME, you are “Southern Gospel”.
4) Never been a big fan of Ernie Haase…but as with so many things in Southern Gospel, it’s not how good you are, it’s who you’re sleeping with (oh, I mean married to).
5) The Singing News bugs me too. It’s always about the same people…the same drivel…and never anything about artists that are not faves of the SN staff!
- How long did it take for SN to talk about the Carolina Boys?
- Who gives a rat’s behind about Roy Pauley’s opinion? (It’s always the same crap…singers aren’t as good as they used to be, etc. etc. etc.)
- Who gave Andrew Ishee an article to call his own? Can’t stand him in person, so why would I like his article?
- Why was the same singer shown getting engaged/married twice in two years? And no self-righteous comment from Mr Kirksey? How disappointing.

I love SG, but it seems to need a bit of an overhaul. Anyways, thanks for listening, and keep writing - I love it!

On Ernie’s magic voice
I too have wondered how he could project/sing to such an extent that it didn’t matter where the mic was. If you ever get an answer to that question, I would love to hear it. He must have one hell of a set of pipes! (Pardon my expletive). I sing tenor myself in a quartet, and I certainly don’t do that with my mic. I don’t see how the answer to that could be divisive or whatever. It is a bit distracting to see the singer move the mic up and down etc. Perhaps it is a technique employed for dramatic purposes. That is fine, but how can he still be heard when the mic is by his waist? We may never know.

On GMT
One of the things I’ve noticed you haven’t mentioned on your site is Gospel Music Television, the 24 hour cable sg channel. We don’t get it [where I lve], but my parents’ city-owned cable system does carry it. I’ve been able watch quite a bit of it down there.

The good thing about it is that it’s straight sg music for probably 75% of the day. Three or four consecutive videos (mostly live concert footage instead of Dale Duhl concept vids), and then a commercial break. They occasionally have a speaking program (like a Carroll Roberson hour that blends a few songs with a devotion, but I’ve never seen real preaching on there), but most of the times I’ve turned it on there is music. The vast majority of the video material comes from their World Premiere of Gospel concerts the network promotes and tapes in Gatlinburg (I have issues with that name and how exactly gospel sung by the same groups every year can make its “premiere” on an annual basis). The also use some NQC footage, and the occasional artist-supplied video. From time to time, they will play a groups’ video in almost its entirety over a half-hour or so, but usually the music is mixed up.

Another plus is that there is sizable helping of quality music, as most of the big-name groups appear at their big concerts. You’ll see plenty of Gold City, Kingdom Heirs, L5, the Perry’s, Hoppers, Greenes, GV, Talley’s, etc., along with the rest of what could be considered standard NQC fare. You won’t find GVB, however. Most of the material spans back to the mid 90’s, and it’s neat to be able to see some of the different lineups groups have had and sort of compare and contrast their sounds.

The downside is one the same problems that plagues the majority of sg radio: inconsistent quality. Heavily mixed into the quality offerings will be a hideous 6 minute Pentecostal thrill ride by Conrad Cook & the Calvary Echoes or the Singing Echoes. Or perhaps a horrible NQC set by the Inspirations (I almost WISH they used stracks!). Or the nasally bellows of Heirline or The McKamey’s and others of the like. One cannot tune it in for any significant length of time without at some point literally having to change the channel!

The quality issue is a real shame because GMT could be a real opportunity to reach out to new fans. Folks are far more willing to shop around for something new on the TV dial than they are the radio dial (most people are channel flippers and don’t have pre-set TV stations) and GMT could offer a real alternative in a medium that offers little in the way of wholesome entertainment. It’s a shame that a decent offering of top-quality music must be squandered by the howls of the Calvary Echoes repeating the words “angels all around” 35 times in a row. Those things send a potential fan on down the TV dial in pursuit of yet another Andy Griffith re-run.

On Ernie Haase and answering questions etc
Ah, you caught him red-handed. That’s why he won’t answer. And if he had any sense at all, he would have avoided the makeup question. Some things you just don’t need to know.

As much as I like SSQ, Ernie is worrying me. He seems so bent on being a star that the more I read the more I think the group will self destruct sooner than later and that’s a shame. Gary and Ernie constructed a pretty good quartet. Although Dunlap was not the perfect lead, he did a good job. Doug Anderson is wonderful and Tim Duncan is a super bass. They sounded good together. Then, the star bug hit Ernie and all of a sudden, Gary, a brilliant arranger and production expert and Shane leave (where has he gone? Last I heard he was with the old Trio replacing our Noni Juice salesman) the group and were replaced by Roy and Ryan. They’ve released one mediocre album and the wonderful Christmas set (which I have to believe was in the works before Gary left) and now tell us they have nothing planned for a new project. Hope the Gaither money holds out. I have to wonder if money isn’t the problem with the lack of new recordings? Wonder how long until SSQ is on Bill Gaither’s Spring Hill label?

BTW, there’s a big debate over a concert featuring the Crabb family and Avalon over on the Southern Gospel News message boards (which you probably already know about). Chris Unthank answered one question on whether or not the Crabbs were going CCM with this concert with a resounding “No.” I have another opinion, but that’s just me. It’s kind of like asking Ernie if he wants to be a star. He’d deny it, but you can tell it in his actions. If Hollywood calls, watch out. Ernie’s gone.He’d better not hold his breath, either.